i will be playing Wildstar, because i loved what i have seen out of it and very excited and can not wait till it comes out. A lot of people saying that they not giving WS a try because looks tooo much like wow and crap like that, well thats you guys opininon and up to you. But i also played that POS game called WoW also and i hated it so much that id rather watch all the Twilight movies. And thus i do not judge any game that comes out around WoW and if its a WoW clone, i dont care about that crap. As for ESO i havent decided yet about that one.
I've got so many F2P and B2P games on my hard drive, it would take something truly exceptional to tempt me to take out a monthly subscription to a game ever again. I don't think either of these games comes remotely to being that one. I've not even bothered trying to get into the beta tests.
I'm very happy playing the EQNL alpha for now. It's a breath of fresh air.
For now I'm skipping ESO. Why should I play a watered down version of Skyrim for $15 a month when I can just actually play Skyrim without a monthly fee? I love PVP, but their implementation isn't anything I don't already have access to and enjoy. As far as Wildstar, not sure yet. It does remind me of the things that got me bored with WoW, however I will be able to make a better decision after the beta this weekend.
I refuse to even consider playing any game until it's been out in full release for at least 4-6 months, I want to see how everything shakes out when the general public gets to play and break things and all those bugs get fixed. After that, after they have a free trial, then I might consider playing but not until.
Originally posted by ThomasN7 Perhaps it just isn't my cup of tea and I just find those games very unappealing. Good luck to those who will be playing those mmos but for the rest of us, what will you be playing instead ?
ESO had me for a bit, but I lost it. MildStar - should be a sleep aid. I have not seen combat as boring as that game in a long time. So like you I will be skipping those two games.
To be fair I think ESO is a good game, it just didn't really grab me. Mildstar is, in my opinion, utter regurgitated crap we have seen for the last 15 years of online games. just presented in a shiny boring ass cover.
Anyway, as far as this year goes I am really gagging to get my hands on the Repopulation. For the future, I am hoping for good things from WarHammer 40K: Eternal Crusade.
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Both are probably getting more negative spin than they deserve and will still be very fun to play for millions of people. I'm just not one of those. I'll dabble with EQNLandmark until more is added to it but I'll pass on Wildstar and ESO.
ESO - Tried the first beta, didn't like it....BUT I admit, I didn't get to 10+, where people say it changes, and I had been too busy to play it again on the betas to give that a go, so if they have another beta that I am invited to (been to all of them, so should be), I will try to give it a push and see what the game is like 10+. As it stand now, no, but could change, not a huge fan of the game controls, but that is what it is. The crafting stuff sounds promising at least.
Wildstar - Nothing scream out to me as a must buy, and rumors of point/click to move seem a little odd. I had signup problems to try to get a key, I have them resolved now, so hopefully I will get to try it out and who knows. I definitely will not buy it if I don't try it, or I will have to wait for a free trial or something.
So today, yes I am skipping, but that is not 100%.
Neither of them have a story that catches my interest - they're both Yet Another Faction War Story. So tired of war stories - I wasn't a fan of them in the first place, and I've played more of them than I wanted because they're the lion's share of what's available.
I want to help design and develop a PvE-focused, solo-friendly, sandpark MMO which combines crafting, monster hunting, and story. So PM me if you are starting one.
Skipping both, played last round eso and liked it a lot but there is no way I would drop 60.00+. Going back to SWGEMU. Veers elite server has blue frogs and no grind till after padawan. Still a little grind to max template but not too bad. Get your swg disc and come pvp!
I'm getting too old to play most MMORPGs as of late. I just have better things to do then sink 20+ hours a week into an MMO. The wife and I might take a look at EQNext depending on how Landmark goes just because if we do take a stab at another MMO, longevity is an issue. EQ, EQ2 have done well, aged gracefully and Sony, despite some mishaps does seem to have longevity in mind with it's EQ brand. Wildstar and ESO I fear are in the same realm of many MMOs that strike hot and cool quickly. Warhammer, Conan, Secret World, DCU, DDO, FF, GW2, Rift, Tera, etc... They hit, and fizzle, within a year. Part of that as an older player, I've seen it all. The new shiny veneer wrapping stock mechanics doesn't hold. They are great titles if it is your first MMO, but for your 10th MMO and after 20 years of MUDS if becomes very difficult to hold my attention. It's not a fault of the various titles, it's just that "Been There, Done That" hits hard.
Eve I still have a lovehate relationship with. Love the game, hate the culture. I won't go into a long tangent on the problem with Eve, but it's a simulation more then a game held hostage by an elite 1% of the player base. It's advantage is it's concept is still unmatched in scale and economy. It could be fixed, but that 1% will never let it grow or flourish.
What, for my demographic, is needed is in-depth engaging lore that doesn't pressure players to hurry through. EQ was an interface to interact with the virtual world. Most games, sandbox or theme park, miss that. First and foremost it should be about interacting with the fantasy world and EQNext it sounds like that is a focus. The world itself is a character, rather then a stage on which a cast of characters reside.
EQ was neither a sandbox or a themepark.. it was more of a parking lot full of classic cars you wandered looking at the cars and chatting with other car fans staring at the same cars.
Modern MMOs I think run into a simple problem that, again Eve Online and CCP hit the nail on the head understanding something: "Spinning Ships is important". Some times just to sit and 'see' something is important. It doesn't have to have a function, impact the world, or be important. Sometimes you just want to sit and stare at the spectical that is the world.
The problem with modern MMOs is the are too dense, too busy. Tailored to an ADHD crowd. If it wasn't for the culture that Eve has become, I would seriously consider Eve the "Perfect" MMO in the sense that you can have intense combat, truely gratifying crafting, and an environment of AWE and SPECTICAL. It's underlying premise however brings out the worst in humanity rather then the best. If only fantasy MMOs understood how to do massive scale crafting as Eve understood it.
I'll be skipping Wildstar. At best if it has a free trial down the line and if I'm bored, I may play it just out of curiosity but I cannot see myself paying for it.
I'll be skipping ESO too, atleast at first. I have more interest in ESO and I would like to play their PVP but it's still mainly out of curiosity and I would still have to be bored. That said I could be persuaded to actually pay to see ESO for myself if I hear good things once the hype dies down. That's not the case with Wildstar.
Perfectly happy with FFXIV, TSW, Marvel Heroes, and D3. Those provide me with plenty of stuff to do, as will Titanfall when it's released. I'll be skipping them both, though I wish them both good luck & hope they're successful, if for nothing else than the sake of their fans.
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Skipping both since I'm just tired of themeparks. Wildstar is too much of a WoW clone and ESO has one of the worst combat systems in MMO history and casualized PvP (PvP for people who hate/are scared of PvP). Both have the same old WoW questing that got old 5+ years ago.
Only MMOs on my list currently are Camelot Unchained and EQNext. Until then I will enjoy PoE and DAoC freeshards.
I've played a bit of ESO beta, and watched my friend play a little bit of Wildstar. I can't really form a solid opinion on either. My instinct is telling me that both games I will play for a couple months and then quit, like every MMO I've played for the last couple of years. All of my friends have been falling in and out of MMOs as well. There just hasn't been a game that has captured me like FFXI did way back when, or alternatively WoW for most of my friends. Deciding to stick to an MMO is heavily decided by our group of friends, and when we split there isn't much motivation to play both games. I feel like ESO and Wildstar will not be able to hold our interest for very long.
Originally posted by ThomasN7 Perhaps it just isn't my cup of tea and I just find those games very unappealing. Good luck to those who will be playing those mmos but for the rest of us, what will you be playing instead ?
Skipping both and actually most everything "coming soon".
For right now, well, I am playing Banished and Starbound. Will be playing Stick of Truth and possibly Witcher 3. Have already backed Shroud of the Avatar so will see what they have to offer as the year drags on.
Will probably have to finish my own game engine (about 30% complete right now) and start building a game I actually want to play seeing as how no one else does
Originally posted by ThomasN7 Perhaps it just isn't my cup of tea and I just find those games very unappealing. Good luck to those who will be playing those mmos but for the rest of us, what will you be playing instead ?
Probably will not buy TESO. Only reason: silly 5 buttons button-mashing limit. Same for TSW. Wildstar will for sure try.
I've thoroughly enjoyed what I've played of both in their betas, but I can't see myself buying them on release. If I were to go back to a sub based MMO, I'd probably continue to play with my friends in FFXIV. As is though, I'm still getting more out of GW2 for way less money.
I will be giving Wildstar a miss. IMO it is the same old crap I've been playing since 2004. I tried the beta which reinforced my opinion; I've just had enough of quest hub to quest hub games.
I will most likely give ESO a miss as well until well after launch. I've been in a couple of beta's but due to work commitments my highest character is around level eight. I have found it boring and at times found it difficult to motivate myself to log in but a lot of people are suggesting the game starts to shine after level ten. Hopefully they have another beta before release and hopefully I will be able to judge if the above statement is true.
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how is EQN-L????
I've got so many F2P and B2P games on my hard drive, it would take something truly exceptional to tempt me to take out a monthly subscription to a game ever again. I don't think either of these games comes remotely to being that one. I've not even bothered trying to get into the beta tests.
I'm very happy playing the EQNL alpha for now. It's a breath of fresh air.
For now I'm skipping ESO. Why should I play a watered down version of Skyrim for $15 a month when I can just actually play Skyrim without a monthly fee? I love PVP, but their implementation isn't anything I don't already have access to and enjoy. As far as Wildstar, not sure yet. It does remind me of the things that got me bored with WoW, however I will be able to make a better decision after the beta this weekend.
so...
ESO: Yes
Wildstar: Not sure yet
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ESO had me for a bit, but I lost it. MildStar - should be a sleep aid. I have not seen combat as boring as that game in a long time. So like you I will be skipping those two games.
To be fair I think ESO is a good game, it just didn't really grab me. Mildstar is, in my opinion, utter regurgitated crap we have seen for the last 15 years of online games. just presented in a shiny boring ass cover.
Anyway, as far as this year goes I am really gagging to get my hands on the Repopulation. For the future, I am hoping for good things from WarHammer 40K: Eternal Crusade.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
ESO - Tried the first beta, didn't like it....BUT I admit, I didn't get to 10+, where people say it changes, and I had been too busy to play it again on the betas to give that a go, so if they have another beta that I am invited to (been to all of them, so should be), I will try to give it a push and see what the game is like 10+. As it stand now, no, but could change, not a huge fan of the game controls, but that is what it is. The crafting stuff sounds promising at least.
Wildstar - Nothing scream out to me as a must buy, and rumors of point/click to move seem a little odd. I had signup problems to try to get a key, I have them resolved now, so hopefully I will get to try it out and who knows. I definitely will not buy it if I don't try it, or I will have to wait for a free trial or something.
So today, yes I am skipping, but that is not 100%.
Wildstar well, after i saw how it looks i knew its not for me.
ESO i might try when F2P... i figure that by then they will sort out some of the many bad things it has... like they did with SWTOR...
Skipping both, played last round eso and liked it a lot but there is no way I would drop 60.00+. Going back to SWGEMU. Veers elite server has blue frogs and no grind till after padawan. Still a little grind to max template but not too bad. Get your swg disc and come pvp!
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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Going to skip ESO.
Probably skip wildstar in the end, don't think its going to have the staying power.
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I'm getting too old to play most MMORPGs as of late. I just have better things to do then sink 20+ hours a week into an MMO. The wife and I might take a look at EQNext depending on how Landmark goes just because if we do take a stab at another MMO, longevity is an issue. EQ, EQ2 have done well, aged gracefully and Sony, despite some mishaps does seem to have longevity in mind with it's EQ brand. Wildstar and ESO I fear are in the same realm of many MMOs that strike hot and cool quickly. Warhammer, Conan, Secret World, DCU, DDO, FF, GW2, Rift, Tera, etc... They hit, and fizzle, within a year. Part of that as an older player, I've seen it all. The new shiny veneer wrapping stock mechanics doesn't hold. They are great titles if it is your first MMO, but for your 10th MMO and after 20 years of MUDS if becomes very difficult to hold my attention. It's not a fault of the various titles, it's just that "Been There, Done That" hits hard.
Eve I still have a lovehate relationship with. Love the game, hate the culture. I won't go into a long tangent on the problem with Eve, but it's a simulation more then a game held hostage by an elite 1% of the player base. It's advantage is it's concept is still unmatched in scale and economy. It could be fixed, but that 1% will never let it grow or flourish.
What, for my demographic, is needed is in-depth engaging lore that doesn't pressure players to hurry through. EQ was an interface to interact with the virtual world. Most games, sandbox or theme park, miss that. First and foremost it should be about interacting with the fantasy world and EQNext it sounds like that is a focus. The world itself is a character, rather then a stage on which a cast of characters reside.
EQ was neither a sandbox or a themepark.. it was more of a parking lot full of classic cars you wandered looking at the cars and chatting with other car fans staring at the same cars.
Modern MMOs I think run into a simple problem that, again Eve Online and CCP hit the nail on the head understanding something: "Spinning Ships is important". Some times just to sit and 'see' something is important. It doesn't have to have a function, impact the world, or be important. Sometimes you just want to sit and stare at the spectical that is the world.
The problem with modern MMOs is the are too dense, too busy. Tailored to an ADHD crowd. If it wasn't for the culture that Eve has become, I would seriously consider Eve the "Perfect" MMO in the sense that you can have intense combat, truely gratifying crafting, and an environment of AWE and SPECTICAL. It's underlying premise however brings out the worst in humanity rather then the best. If only fantasy MMOs understood how to do massive scale crafting as Eve understood it.
I'll be skipping Wildstar. At best if it has a free trial down the line and if I'm bored, I may play it just out of curiosity but I cannot see myself paying for it.
I'll be skipping ESO too, atleast at first. I have more interest in ESO and I would like to play their PVP but it's still mainly out of curiosity and I would still have to be bored. That said I could be persuaded to actually pay to see ESO for myself if I hear good things once the hype dies down. That's not the case with Wildstar.
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I'm pretty much skipping the whole genre. Does that count?
It's just that nothing seems appealing anymore. "Damn, I wan to play that" no longer exists for me.
I'm thinking about digging Half-Life off my fileserver and playing that again.
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Skipping both since I'm just tired of themeparks. Wildstar is too much of a WoW clone and ESO has one of the worst combat systems in MMO history and casualized PvP (PvP for people who hate/are scared of PvP). Both have the same old WoW questing that got old 5+ years ago.
Only MMOs on my list currently are Camelot Unchained and EQNext. Until then I will enjoy PoE and DAoC freeshards.
DAoC - Excalibur & Camlann
Skipping both and actually most everything "coming soon".
For right now, well, I am playing Banished and Starbound. Will be playing Stick of Truth and possibly Witcher 3. Have already backed Shroud of the Avatar so will see what they have to offer as the year drags on.
Will probably have to finish my own game engine (about 30% complete right now) and start building a game I actually want to play seeing as how no one else does
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Probably will not buy TESO. Only reason: silly 5 buttons button-mashing limit. Same for TSW. Wildstar will for sure try.
I will be giving Wildstar a miss. IMO it is the same old crap I've been playing since 2004. I tried the beta which reinforced my opinion; I've just had enough of quest hub to quest hub games.
I will most likely give ESO a miss as well until well after launch. I've been in a couple of beta's but due to work commitments my highest character is around level eight. I have found it boring and at times found it difficult to motivate myself to log in but a lot of people are suggesting the game starts to shine after level ten. Hopefully they have another beta before release and hopefully I will be able to judge if the above statement is true.