I will be the first one to buy a 90! Get in a couple groups and have no idea what I am doing. This is awesome! Talk about getting booted from groups. I am on cloud 9
This is why I don't play WoW anymore. Everything that happens in WoW is aimed at nullifying or diminishing all accomplishments at least once a year.
Every expansion the same people would work hard for the best gear and dedicate serious time and effort to their choice niche in WoW. Then along came something 'to create an even playing field' aka 'help the bads catch up' and you'd spend the next 6 weeks trying to figure out who these new guys are who don't pay attention or cooperate or anything.
The best and most challenging dungeons in WoW are still Vanilla BWL and MC and AQ20/40 and ZG. I never got done with AQ40 before it was replaced with more kid friendly content in BC that allowed everyone to get a trophy.
That's what's so fun about WoW, everyone gets a trophy.
Ahh yes the elitest that piss n moan about the "golden days." All what the best gear does is just a gear grind carrot on the stick mechanic that is just a time sink to keep players invested in WoW, it by no means seperates the "bads." And there was a reason why Blizz stopped with the 40 man raids and why they instead turned to the direction of more accessability of content for the more casual players.
Not eveyone lives in their mom's basement and devotes all their time into WoW to the point of it being a 2nd job and falsely justify it as being "social interaction with people." Glad Blizz gave these people the finger and started adding features for those who can only spend a couple hours episodes several times a week in WoW and not a 8x5.
I am not a raider and I do not pvp. I will be paying for a level 90 boost.
I have 11 level 90's already (9 alliance and 2 horde). I do not have a level 90 mage or hunter so, hearing that if you boost from 60 instead of 1 you get a profession boost I restarted leveling my level 40 hunter. I lasted two levels and lost interest. Ok, then I start a level 1 mage. I am at level 10 and getting bored already.
After leveling 11 toons to 90 and 5 or 6 more to 40 it is hard to slog through one more time. But, as I played I found out something that is causing my more angst than the grind - the imbalance between profession leveling and character leveling. I have come to realize whyI leveling pre Cata was not as bad as after Cata. Pre-Cata I was always crafting things which would give me better gear. As I leveled I kept building things better and better. I was able to keep pace between my character gear and level gear and it was fun. Post Cata you level the way that my sons did it - rush to max level, ignore everything else. I can see why they burned out in 4 years.
So, I have the money, I am going to go for the boost.
"Devalues the accomplishment of leveling." Give-me-a-break, that's a complete load of bull.
There hasn't been any "value" or "accomplishment" associated with leveling in WoW since more than half a decade ago. Everyone and their mother has a high-level character in WoW these days. Stop being so offended, for a game that's supposedly "dying" and a game that "none of us" here cares about anymore there sure are a lot of offended people acting up.
WoW is a 10 year old game - If people want to buy a boost to level 90, let them, so they can be a part of the group that consists of millions of high-level characters at this point.
"Devalues"... - I cringe and laugh at the same time. Hilarious stuff.
but selling lvl 90 boosts does just what he said he didn't want to do. it devalues leveling. no matter the price.
My sentiments exactly. The irony of it is, people pay them a sub in order to play the game, and now they pay them $60 to not have to play the game.
That's one of the dumbest things I've read today. Logically it doesn't make sense. It's not like people are playing them $60 and then closing out the window and uninstalling the game. They're paying $60 to have a level 90 character so they can play the game the way they want... at level 90.
Why do you want to force others to play the game the way YOU want to? Just let people do want they want and you do what makes you happy.
Bash it all you want, it is a good business decision and lets not forget that this is a business, employees get paid to make these games. For people that don't have a lot of time to level a character this is a good deal.
Actually compared to many f2p games this is cheap. Heck it is easy to spend $30-50 for a mount in many PW games.
The only thing that I disliked in the story was the indication that the new expansion will cost $60, that is rather high for an expansion cost and none of their expansions have been that encompassing lately. This one had better be a dozy.
The one thing that WOW had going for it was the competitive nature of being server first. This kills the leveling aspect of that. All blizzard needs to do now is add a " One Shot One Kill " raid boss item and their shop will be complete. Adding this type of item clearly indicates that they don't believe WOW has much longevity left.
There is no better way to kill your own game, than to add supremacy goods to your microtransaction model.
They "one" thing WoW had going for it? You're kidding right? Do you know how many people give a flying shit about being server first? Seriously?
I've been playing WoW on and off since 2004 and no one I have ever played with have been server first for anything. It's not even a thought. We just play to have fun. You're talking about a handful of people who think they can stay up for two days straight and hit "server first". I'm not gonna sit here and act like I really know how many it is, but I would be you it's the extreme minority of players.
I've heard people like you saying WoW doesn't have much left for 8 years. You we're the first to be wrong and you sure won't be the last.
I can use the same arguments in this thread to justify the buying and selling of raid gear. It's just a matter of time before this is in Blizzards cash shop. It wasn't very long ago when the topic of this thread would have been unthinkable. But it's all cool because money is everything.
Why do you want to force others to play the game the way YOU want to? Just let people do want they want and you do what makes you happy.
Yeah, as long as what other people want is what YOU want. Great argument - Screw the people who don't have the money for level 90s, or the people who like their game to be a level playing field. You know, fair to everyone and not give an advantage to Mr. Moneybags? This service cost as much a whole new freaking game. Not everyone has $60 to throw away on something so pointless, and players that can't are going to be left behind people who do.
Bash it all you want, it is a good business decision and lets not forget that this is a business, employees get paid to make these games. For people that don't have a lot of time to level a character this is a good deal.
Actually compared to many f2p games this is cheap. Heck it is easy to spend $30-50 for a mount in many PW games.
The only thing that I disliked in the story was the indication that the new expansion will cost $60, that is rather high for an expansion cost and none of their expansions have been that encompassing lately. This one had better be a dozy.
The one thing that WOW had going for it was the competitive nature of being server first. This kills the leveling aspect of that. All blizzard needs to do now is add a " One Shot One Kill " raid boss item and their shop will be complete. Adding this type of item clearly indicates that they don't believe WOW has much longevity left.
There is no better way to kill your own game, than to add supremacy goods to your microtransaction model.
I am not in favor of buying level 90 charecter in the least, but what the heck are you talking about? How does buying level 90 charecters in any way effect server firsts of any kind?
100% of server firsts for every class each xpac come from previous max level of that class, to new max (ex when the xpac hits, the server first shaman would have leveld from 90...not 1) How does being able to buy a level 90 toon, give you an advantage over someone who is starting the xpac with level 90 toons? And how the heck does buying a toon with the level of the previous xpac in any way effect raiding?
Can you please please, for pure entertainint purposes, explain your opinion? I CANT WAIT to hear how you rationalize your view lol.
Bash it all you want, it is a good business decision and lets not forget that this is a business, employees get paid to make these games. For people that don't have a lot of time to level a character this is a good deal.
Actually compared to many f2p games this is cheap. Heck it is easy to spend $30-50 for a mount in many PW games.
The only thing that I disliked in the story was the indication that the new expansion will cost $60, that is rather high for an expansion cost and none of their expansions have been that encompassing lately. This one had better be a dozy.
The one thing that WOW had going for it was the competitive nature of being server first. This kills the leveling aspect of that. All blizzard needs to do now is add a " One Shot One Kill " raid boss item and their shop will be complete. Adding this type of item clearly indicates that they don't believe WOW has much longevity left.
There is no better way to kill your own game, than to add supremacy goods to your microtransaction model.
They "one" thing WoW had going for it? You're kidding right? Do you know how many people give a flying shit about being server first? Seriously?
I've been playing WoW on and off since 2004 and no one I have ever played with have been server first for anything. It's not even a thought. We just play to have fun. You're talking about a handful of people who think they can stay up for two days straight and hit "server first". I'm not gonna sit here and act like I really know how many it is, but I would be you it's the extreme minority of players.
I've heard people like you saying WoW doesn't have much left for 8 years. You we're the first to be wrong and you sure won't be the last.
Lets pretend server firsts were the ONE thing it had going for it...being able to buy a level 90 toon doesn't affect it in them least....hes just spectacularly grasping at straws.
Why do you want to force others to play the game the way YOU want to? Just let people do want they want and you do what makes you happy.
Yeah, as long as what other people want is what YOU want. Great argument - Screw the people who don't have the money for level 90s, or the people who like their game to be a level playing field. You know, fair to everyone and not give an advantage to Mr. Moneybags? This service cost as much a whole new freaking game. Not everyone has $60 to throw away on something so pointless, and players that can't are going to be left behind people who do.
How in the world would you feel forced to use this service, or feel poeple who use it have a "leg up" on you? Its shitty to have the option of buying level 90 toons IMO, but it also has no bearing on anyone else...there will still be people to level with and run dungeons with. Once you hit max level (the only time anyting they do would have any type of concequence on you), you have to put the same work as they did into the game to get the gear etc.
This is why I don't play WoW anymore. Everything that happens in WoW is aimed at nullifying or diminishing all accomplishments at least once a year.
Every expansion the same people would work hard for the best gear and dedicate serious time and effort to their choice niche in WoW. Then along came something 'to create an even playing field' aka 'help the bads catch up' and you'd spend the next 6 weeks trying to figure out who these new guys are who don't pay attention or cooperate or anything.
The best and most challenging dungeons in WoW are still Vanilla BWL and MC and AQ20/40 and ZG. I never got done with AQ40 before it was replaced with more kid friendly content in BC that allowed everyone to get a trophy.
That's what's so fun about WoW, everyone gets a trophy.
so basically you want others not able to get what you have?, you saying, for you being special is having something nobody can have?, thus punishing those players who cannot aford play 10 hours daily, so they will never have anything?, i tought gaming was for fun, not to feel "special" because "i have what you cannot"
Why do you want to force others to play the game the way YOU want to? Just let people do want they want and you do what makes you happy.
Yeah, as long as what other people want is what YOU want. Great argument - Screw the people who don't have the money for level 90s, or the people who like their game to be a level playing field. You know, fair to everyone and not give an advantage to Mr. Moneybags? This service cost as much a whole new freaking game. Not everyone has $60 to throw away on something so pointless, and players that can't are going to be left behind people who do.
How in the world would you feel forced to use this service, or feel poeple who use it have a "leg up" on you? Its shitty to have the option of buying level 90 toons IMO, but it also has no bearing on anyone else...there will still be people to level with and run dungeons with. Once you hit max level (the only time anyting they do would have any type of concequence on you), you have to put the same work as they did into the game to get the gear etc.
Your basically saying "ignore it" and it won't affect you. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Someone pays to get a level 90, you spend time by playing(or working, whatever you think it is) to get to 90 yourself. The person that pays has a leg up on you. What aren't you understanding here?
Why do you want to force others to play the game the way YOU want to? Just let people do want they want and you do what makes you happy.
Yeah, as long as what other people want is what YOU want. Great argument - Screw the people who don't have the money for level 90s, or the people who like their game to be a level playing field. You know, fair to everyone and not give an advantage to Mr. Moneybags? This service cost as much a whole new freaking game. Not everyone has $60 to throw away on something so pointless, and players that can't are going to be left behind people who do.
How in the world would you feel forced to use this service, or feel poeple who use it have a "leg up" on you? Its shitty to have the option of buying level 90 toons IMO, but it also has no bearing on anyone else...there will still be people to level with and run dungeons with. Once you hit max level (the only time anyting they do would have any type of concequence on you), you have to put the same work as they did into the game to get the gear etc.
Your basically saying "ignore it" and it won't affect you. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Someone pays to get a level 90, you spend time by playing(or working, whatever you think it is) to get to 90 yourself. The person that pays has a leg up on you. What aren't you understanding here?
Everyone already gets a free 90....I really don't think you understand what is being implemented....reread your post in the context of everyone getting at least 1 free 90 (in addition to however many 90s they already have).....it totally sucks that they are implementing this because I fear that it sets a presadance....but don't write""what arn't you undertsanding" in the context I just laid out, as if I just said the world was flat.....
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Why so mad bro?
Ahh yes the elitest that piss n moan about the "golden days." All what the best gear does is just a gear grind carrot on the stick mechanic that is just a time sink to keep players invested in WoW, it by no means seperates the "bads." And there was a reason why Blizz stopped with the 40 man raids and why they instead turned to the direction of more accessability of content for the more casual players.
Not eveyone lives in their mom's basement and devotes all their time into WoW to the point of it being a 2nd job and falsely justify it as being "social interaction with people." Glad Blizz gave these people the finger and started adding features for those who can only spend a couple hours episodes several times a week in WoW and not a 8x5.
I am not a raider and I do not pvp. I will be paying for a level 90 boost.
I have 11 level 90's already (9 alliance and 2 horde). I do not have a level 90 mage or hunter so, hearing that if you boost from 60 instead of 1 you get a profession boost I restarted leveling my level 40 hunter. I lasted two levels and lost interest. Ok, then I start a level 1 mage. I am at level 10 and getting bored already.
After leveling 11 toons to 90 and 5 or 6 more to 40 it is hard to slog through one more time. But, as I played I found out something that is causing my more angst than the grind - the imbalance between profession leveling and character leveling. I have come to realize whyI leveling pre Cata was not as bad as after Cata. Pre-Cata I was always crafting things which would give me better gear. As I leveled I kept building things better and better. I was able to keep pace between my character gear and level gear and it was fun. Post Cata you level the way that my sons did it - rush to max level, ignore everything else. I can see why they burned out in 4 years.
So, I have the money, I am going to go for the boost.
"Devalues the accomplishment of leveling." Give-me-a-break, that's a complete load of bull.
There hasn't been any "value" or "accomplishment" associated with leveling in WoW since more than half a decade ago. Everyone and their mother has a high-level character in WoW these days. Stop being so offended, for a game that's supposedly "dying" and a game that "none of us" here cares about anymore there sure are a lot of offended people acting up.
WoW is a 10 year old game - If people want to buy a boost to level 90, let them, so they can be a part of the group that consists of millions of high-level characters at this point.
"Devalues"... - I cringe and laugh at the same time. Hilarious stuff.
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That's one of the dumbest things I've read today. Logically it doesn't make sense. It's not like people are playing them $60 and then closing out the window and uninstalling the game. They're paying $60 to have a level 90 character so they can play the game the way they want... at level 90.
Why do you want to force others to play the game the way YOU want to? Just let people do want they want and you do what makes you happy.
They "one" thing WoW had going for it? You're kidding right? Do you know how many people give a flying shit about being server first? Seriously?
I've been playing WoW on and off since 2004 and no one I have ever played with have been server first for anything. It's not even a thought. We just play to have fun. You're talking about a handful of people who think they can stay up for two days straight and hit "server first". I'm not gonna sit here and act like I really know how many it is, but I would be you it's the extreme minority of players.
I've heard people like you saying WoW doesn't have much left for 8 years. You we're the first to be wrong and you sure won't be the last.
ermmm any cashshop within a subscription game (such as wow) devalues all accomplishments
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It's disgust not anger.
I can use the same arguments in this thread to justify the buying and selling of raid gear. It's just a matter of time before this is in Blizzards cash shop. It wasn't very long ago when the topic of this thread would have been unthinkable. But it's all cool because money is everything.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
It takes 2 weeks to get to 90.
Where is the "value" in that in first place?
Yeah, as long as what other people want is what YOU want. Great argument - Screw the people who don't have the money for level 90s, or the people who like their game to be a level playing field. You know, fair to everyone and not give an advantage to Mr. Moneybags? This service cost as much a whole new freaking game. Not everyone has $60 to throw away on something so pointless, and players that can't are going to be left behind people who do.
I am not in favor of buying level 90 charecter in the least, but what the heck are you talking about? How does buying level 90 charecters in any way effect server firsts of any kind?
100% of server firsts for every class each xpac come from previous max level of that class, to new max (ex when the xpac hits, the server first shaman would have leveld from 90...not 1) How does being able to buy a level 90 toon, give you an advantage over someone who is starting the xpac with level 90 toons? And how the heck does buying a toon with the level of the previous xpac in any way effect raiding?
Can you please please, for pure entertainint purposes, explain your opinion? I CANT WAIT to hear how you rationalize your view lol.
Lets pretend server firsts were the ONE thing it had going for it...being able to buy a level 90 toon doesn't affect it in them least....hes just spectacularly grasping at straws.
How in the world would you feel forced to use this service, or feel poeple who use it have a "leg up" on you? Its shitty to have the option of buying level 90 toons IMO, but it also has no bearing on anyone else...there will still be people to level with and run dungeons with. Once you hit max level (the only time anyting they do would have any type of concequence on you), you have to put the same work as they did into the game to get the gear etc.
So true.. nothing lasts forever but Blizz sure have shortened that time.
so basically you want others not able to get what you have?, you saying, for you being special is having something nobody can have?, thus punishing those players who cannot aford play 10 hours daily, so they will never have anything?, i tought gaming was for fun, not to feel "special" because "i have what you cannot"
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Your basically saying "ignore it" and it won't affect you. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Someone pays to get a level 90, you spend time by playing(or working, whatever you think it is) to get to 90 yourself. The person that pays has a leg up on you. What aren't you understanding here?
Everyone already gets a free 90....I really don't think you understand what is being implemented....reread your post in the context of everyone getting at least 1 free 90 (in addition to however many 90s they already have).....it totally sucks that they are implementing this because I fear that it sets a presadance....but don't write""what arn't you undertsanding" in the context I just laid out, as if I just said the world was flat.....
Should be more imo.