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View distance needs to be increased

LisaFlexy22LisaFlexy22 Member UncommonPosts: 450
I like quite a few things about ESO, some things not so much.  The view distance to me is a big issue currently.  Even maxed out it is very short and really takes away from the graphical beauty of the game in my opinion.  It also seems silly to have it set so short considering how well the game runs.  I have a mid range laptop and ran the game on max settings smooth as butter so I'm sure I could handle a boost in view distance, not to mention people with real gaming rigs I'm sure could handle a hefty spike in the view distance without much issue.  I very much hope this is increased for launch.
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  • superconductingsuperconducting Member UncommonPosts: 871
  • LisaFlexy22LisaFlexy22 Member UncommonPosts: 450
    Originally posted by superconducting

    The FOV slider is coming

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/407146/page/1

     

    View distance = the DISTANCE at which environmental graphics are rendered.

    FOV = your first person view angle (nothing to do with distance)

     

    My comment is about view distance, not FOV 

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    I like quite a few things about ESO, some things not so much.  The view distance to me is a big issue currently.  Even maxed out it is very short and really takes away from the graphical beauty of the game in my opinion.  It also seems silly to have it set so short considering how well the game runs.  I have a mid range laptop and ran the game on max settings smooth as butter so I'm sure I could handle a boost in view distance, not to mention people with real gaming rigs I'm sure could handle a hefty spike in the view distance without much issue.  I very much hope this is increased for launch.

    Try setting this to max... the distance archievable is quite huge...

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  • LisaFlexy22LisaFlexy22 Member UncommonPosts: 450
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    I like quite a few things about ESO, some things not so much.  The view distance to me is a big issue currently.  Even maxed out it is very short and really takes away from the graphical beauty of the game in my opinion.  It also seems silly to have it set so short considering how well the game runs.  I have a mid range laptop and ran the game on max settings smooth as butter so I'm sure I could handle a boost in view distance, not to mention people with real gaming rigs I'm sure could handle a hefty spike in the view distance without much issue.  I very much hope this is increased for launch.

    Try setting this to max... the distance archievable is quite huge...

    I did set it to max, as I said in my OP, and it is hardly huge even when maxed.  On the contrary, it is quite short.

  • MMO-RelicMMO-Relic Member UncommonPosts: 81

    Also, typically the distance you can see plays a big roll in how large the world feels. A lot of thought is put into how far the maximum view should be for this very reason. Especially in an mmo, where the world size with this type of quality is finite.

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  • superconductingsuperconducting Member UncommonPosts: 871
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    Originally posted by superconducting

    The FOV slider is coming

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/407146/page/1

     

    View distance = the DISTANCE at which environmental graphics are rendered.

    FOV = your first person view angle (nothing to do with distance)

     

    My comment is about view distance, not FOV 

    You're not happy with both the View Distance slider and the FOV slider?

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  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    I like quite a few things about ESO, some things not so much.  The view distance to me is a big issue currently.  Even maxed out it is very short and really takes away from the graphical beauty of the game in my opinion.  It also seems silly to have it set so short considering how well the game runs.  I have a mid range laptop and ran the game on max settings smooth as butter so I'm sure I could handle a boost in view distance, not to mention people with real gaming rigs I'm sure could handle a hefty spike in the view distance without much issue.  I very much hope this is increased for launch.

    Try setting this to max... the distance archievable is quite huge...

    I did set it to max, as I said in my OP, and it is hardly huge even when maxed.  On the contrary, it is quite short.

    I think the engine handled the view distance perfectly... large objects where visible from very very far, smaller objects required you tp be a bit closer... but i dont remember any stuff popping up out of oblivion when i got close..

     

    this is not one of the developers concerns, in my opinion its ballanced perfectly.

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  • MMO-RelicMMO-Relic Member UncommonPosts: 81
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    I like quite a few things about ESO, some things not so much.  The view distance to me is a big issue currently.  Even maxed out it is very short and really takes away from the graphical beauty of the game in my opinion.  It also seems silly to have it set so short considering how well the game runs.  I have a mid range laptop and ran the game on max settings smooth as butter so I'm sure I could handle a boost in view distance, not to mention people with real gaming rigs I'm sure could handle a hefty spike in the view distance without much issue.  I very much hope this is increased for launch.

    Try setting this to max... the distance archievable is quite huge...

    I did set it to max, as I said in my OP, and it is hardly huge even when maxed.  On the contrary, it is quite short.

    I think the engine handled the view distance perfectly... large objects where visible from very very far, smaller objects required you tp be a bit closer... but i dont remember any stuff popping up out of oblivion when i got close..

     

    this is not one of the developers concerns, in my opinion its ballanced perfectly.

    Agreed. This was one of the biggest draw backs and immersion killers in Vanguard. Truly was something I just couldn't get over, especially when im looking to roam an open world as an escape in an MMO.

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  • PyatraPyatra Member Posts: 644
    Originally posted by MMO-Relic
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    I like quite a few things about ESO, some things not so much.  The view distance to me is a big issue currently.  Even maxed out it is very short and really takes away from the graphical beauty of the game in my opinion.  It also seems silly to have it set so short considering how well the game runs.  I have a mid range laptop and ran the game on max settings smooth as butter so I'm sure I could handle a boost in view distance, not to mention people with real gaming rigs I'm sure could handle a hefty spike in the view distance without much issue.  I very much hope this is increased for launch.

    Try setting this to max... the distance archievable is quite huge...

    I did set it to max, as I said in my OP, and it is hardly huge even when maxed.  On the contrary, it is quite short.

    I think the engine handled the view distance perfectly... large objects where visible from very very far, smaller objects required you tp be a bit closer... but i dont remember any stuff popping up out of oblivion when i got close..

     

    this is not one of the developers concerns, in my opinion its ballanced perfectly.

    Agreed. This was one of the biggest draw backs and immersion killers in Vanguard. Truly was something I just couldn't get over, especially when im looking to roam an open world as an escape in an MMO.

     I had no problems and the view distance seemed natural to me.

  • LisaFlexy22LisaFlexy22 Member UncommonPosts: 450
    Originally posted by superconducting
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    Originally posted by superconducting

    The FOV slider is coming

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/407146/page/1

     

    View distance = the DISTANCE at which environmental graphics are rendered.

    FOV = your first person view angle (nothing to do with distance)

     

    My comment is about view distance, not FOV 

    You're not happy with both the View Distance slider and the FOV slider?

    That's what you took from my post huh?  Interesting.  As I said in my op - I feel the max distance should be increased.  My post has nothing to do with the FOV

  • LisaFlexy22LisaFlexy22 Member UncommonPosts: 450
    Originally posted by MMO-Relic
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by LisaFlexy22
    I like quite a few things about ESO, some things not so much.  The view distance to me is a big issue currently.  Even maxed out it is very short and really takes away from the graphical beauty of the game in my opinion.  It also seems silly to have it set so short considering how well the game runs.  I have a mid range laptop and ran the game on max settings smooth as butter so I'm sure I could handle a boost in view distance, not to mention people with real gaming rigs I'm sure could handle a hefty spike in the view distance without much issue.  I very much hope this is increased for launch.

    Try setting this to max... the distance archievable is quite huge...

    I did set it to max, as I said in my OP, and it is hardly huge even when maxed.  On the contrary, it is quite short.

    I think the engine handled the view distance perfectly... large objects where visible from very very far, smaller objects required you tp be a bit closer... but i dont remember any stuff popping up out of oblivion when i got close..

     

    this is not one of the developers concerns, in my opinion its ballanced perfectly.

    Agreed. This was one of the biggest draw backs and immersion killers in Vanguard. Truly was something I just couldn't get over, especially when im looking to roam an open world as an escape in an MMO.

    I disagree - I feel the view distance limiting fog comes in far too early to seem realistic even when maxed out

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719

    I didn't find it short at all with the draw distance slider set to max. The draw distance at max is just barely hyper-realistic. Any more and it would look unnatural. I also though there was much less obvious "popping into hi rez" as you get closer to NPCs and objects compared to other MMOs... the transitions are gradual and natural. To me nailing those transitions is far more important than maximum draw distance - those rez "pops" when done badly are really jarring and distracting.

     

    I also thought that the haze fog and dust effects they use to blur the more distant objects looks very realistic - and I say this as someone who does a lot of landscape photography. You don't always go for maximum sharpness and detail at all distances or try to remove all atmospheric haze in post processing. You can do it sometimes if you're going for a less natural look, but not as frequently as the detail-obsessed gear-heads like to do it :) The slightly less focused areas and transitions in detail give the images depth and makes them look more natural. 

     

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  • MMO-RelicMMO-Relic Member UncommonPosts: 81
    Originally posted by MMO-Relic

    Also, typically the distance you can see plays a big roll in how large the world feels. A lot of thought is put into how far the maximum view should be for this very reason. Especially in an mmo, where the world size with this type of quality is finite.

    Just to quote my earlier response. There is a reason they limit how far you can view the world. The fact that fences, windmills and houses don't pop up right in front of you is what I was referring to regarding Vanguard.

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  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989

    Only thing I hope they do is put the camera right over my head on 3rd person...not 500 feet to the right

     

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  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872

    The fog and short view distance annoyed me as well.

    You can however manually edit the ini and set to view distance to a value beyond the "100" that the ingame slider allows you to. You can find the ini in you games' folder somewhere in C:UserYourUserNameMyGamesenimax or similar (can't look it up atm)

    After editing you have to rightclick->properties->write protect the file, otherwise the view distance will be set back to whatever the ingame slider is set to when you start the game.

    The slider on "100" equals a value of "2.00000" (not sure about the number of 0s as i type this) in the ini. Setting it to "3.*" gives you "160" in game. I haven't tried what the maximum possible value would be as 160 looked ok to me already.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,069
    I left the slider where the game set it, around 72%, and had no issues. Guess i am more focused on what is near me than what is on the horizon.

    Hey I live in Florida, its so flat and forested here we never see far distances, and its almost always hazy, guess it seemed normal to me.

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  • ThillianThillian Member UncommonPosts: 3,156
    The view distance is extremely short. One of the shortest within genre. It's not that I would play this game otherwise, it's just another nail in the coffin.

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  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311


    Originally posted by Thillian
    The view distance is extremely short. One of the shortest within genre.

    not it isn't, not even close.

  • Bad.dogBad.dog Member UncommonPosts: 1,131
    Originally posted by baphamet

     


    Originally posted by Thillian
    The view distance is extremely short. One of the shortest within genre.

     

    not it isn't, not even close.

    His view is short signed ....we need not say any more

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    Originally posted by Gestankfaust

    Only thing I hope they do is put the camera right over my head on 3rd person...not 500 feet to the right

     

    :P

    Things like this keep me wondering what they tried to archieve with this?    But Zenimax is workinhg hard to remove features like this, or to give players the option to opt out of them and choose what they where used from other games..

     

    the removal of this silly feature however hasnt made the patchnotes yet

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  • GamerDan79GamerDan79 Member Posts: 39
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by Gestankfaust

    Only thing I hope they do is put the camera right over my head on 3rd person...not 500 feet to the right

     

    :P

    Things like this keep me wondering what they tried to archieve with this?    But Zenimax is workinhg hard to remove features like this, or to give players the option to opt out of them and choose what they where used from other games..

     

    the removal of this silly feature however hasnt made the patchnotes yet

     

    This unintuitive feature was present in FO3 too.

     

    Thank god for player mods and addons! An addon that reset the crosshair to the middle of the screen and moved it higher above the player character was one of the first and most downloaded mods ever for FO3.

     

     

  • GamerDan79GamerDan79 Member Posts: 39

     

    Well this thread is confusing to someone who has not played the beta.

     

    IS the draw distance in ESO far too short?

     

    Or IS the draw distance in ESO on par with every other MMORPG?

     

    Many conflicting statements in this thread :(

  • AzothAzoth Member UncommonPosts: 840
    Originally posted by GamerDan79

     

    Well this thread is confusing to someone who has not played the beta.

     

    IS the draw distance in ESO far too short?

     

    Or IS the draw distance in ESO on par with every other MMORPG?

     

    Many conflicting statements in this thread :(

    Better than a lot, on par with some and worse than a minority.

  • GamerDan79GamerDan79 Member Posts: 39
    Originally posted by Azoth
    Originally posted by GamerDan79

     

    Well this thread is confusing to someone who has not played the beta.

     

    IS the draw distance in ESO far too short?

     

    Or IS the draw distance in ESO on par with every other MMORPG?

     

    Many conflicting statements in this thread :(

    Better than a lot, on par with some and worse than a minority.

     

    Thanks :)

     

    I think what you are trying to say is ESO has much better (further) draw distance than the majority of mmorpgs on the market.

     

    Excellent :)

  • PoisondwarfPoisondwarf Member UncommonPosts: 33
    I think that the draw distance on ESO is better than most if not all MMO's out here at the moment. As mentioned in previous posts there is nothing wrong with it and the devs have got it just right. I think the the OP has either never played an MMO, has rediculous expectations or is a troll.  
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