well I think WS biggest mistake was taking the character development out of the game, and ESO did the exact opposite by making everything about the character, down to the specific choices of weapon and armor, etc. All the games I grew up to were about the character. WS is about the items. Also the cookie-cutter nature of WS almost makes me puke. I am so sick of these games made for 6 year olds, who have no thumbs apparently.
With the letdown of GW2 because of the simplified character creation, I been waiting a long time for a game like ESO, and you all can bash it if you never played it, or if you just dabbled in it, but if you give the game a chance it really grows on you, and that is the exact opposite of how I see WS going.
Oh and the RVR zone in ESO, I cant think of any game that compares to it, they just did it right, I dont know what else to say. I thought it would end up all zerging, but its not, you can do anything from small scale raids to 1v1 hunting.
And yea its funny how everyone bashed ESO, and raved about WS, and now that we had a taste of both, I think I can easily say for the PvP crowd that ESO is the clear winner by far.
WS wil be a solid game and it has its good points for sure, but it also looks very hectic, I would say if you want to play WS, be sure to remove the windows key off your keyboard.
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i just wrote alot and i am tired so i'm only to to respond to a few/or one of these points lol for now atleast
Look at my other response and stop lying eso doesn't even have dueling say and/or even implying that it is going to be the better pvp game based of facts is a complete Lie.im a hardcore pvper and eso's pvp is a clunkfest
I will condemn you for the fact you are holding Wildstar up to different standards than TESO.
Both games hold your hand every step of the way, even in PvP. They are themeparks from start to finish. The very worlds are designed around handholding, from split faction lands behind walls to PvP behind walls.
Yet somehow TESO is praised and Wildstar condemned. But by the end of the article we can see why. This article basically was just about the games UI and not really the base game itself making the title misleading. Yet of course if you look at TESOs UI, there is nothing there, its near pointless. But the article lead me to wonder if it was only written so you could end it like you did. That you are enjoying the story telling in TESO more, a fopaux for such an article making it seem more like an endorsement for another game.
I like Wildstar better than ESO. but i dont think Wildstar is condemed in this article.
i have played both quite extensively (not just in beta weekends). they have great potentials.
Wildstar questing is traditional mmorpg style. Sometime we need to kill a lot of mobs to complete quests/zone. it is quite a hassle. ESO quests are more single player. a bit more immersive. but with voice over is going to be like Bill wrote (something that can’t and won’t be replicated easily with expansion for ESO). much like SWTOR the overhead expense in doing additional contents re voice over will always be there. this is quite a challenge in the long term.
then we have Wildstar dungeons. they are amazing. for those who havent tried them. even if you dont like the game right now if u get a chance may as well try them. very well presented, very good quality and very fun. imo dungeons will Wildstar strongest trait.
ESO i will play it too (already bought imperial edition). looking forward to it is AvA smthing that Wildstar does not have. and i want to see how it rly compares to GW2 wvw. though i ll reserve judgement until the game is released for a while and state of war (and its politics) is more matured. and then will see if it has a true quality. i just hope so.
Originally posted by Rockniss The screen shot was for us to compare UI , that is the new one
He seems to have clutter and stuff turned all the way down causing the terrain that would normally have grass and stuff to be just a flat baseless land devoid of anything
Originally posted by delta9 damn those graphics are laughable, so how much hand holding Wildstar want to do wont be a issue for me
When will you children learn there is a huge difference between graphics (which is a reference to graphics fidelity) and art style. It has a cartoon like art style and good graphics fidelity. They are rather enjoyable when not turned down all the way like that screen shot seems to be doing... (i'm pzuzled why ground clutter and things seem to be turned down)
ESO is garbage. I'd enjoy getting to check out WildStar to compare, but I don't see how it could be as bad. ESO makes FFXIV look good, and FFXI is a joke.
Premium MMORPGs do not feature built-in cheating via cash for gold pay 2 win. PLAY to win or don't play.
This was a poorly thought out article. Make the claim that WildStar won't survive because its difficulty is to hard to sustain a casual player-base and so Carbine will be forced to make the game easier upsetting the hardcore/raider types its catering to atm or possibly be faced with a game that doesn't make a profit.
Make the claim that WildStar's questing system is quite lacking in ingenuity.
But don't say WildStar has to much hand-holding. That's an inflammatory and outright false claim when talking about WildStar. The only thing that holds your hand in this game is directing you to where quest targets are. Which would have been made ANYWAY with addons since its launching with addon-support.
Also, look back at pretty much -every- game that has traditional quests and you see the same. WoW, SWTOR, Rift, Tera, GW2, I can go on and on. They all have quest tracking. How is this warranted enough to claim WildStar holds the players hand to much?
To address a couple posts i've seen. To the person who says GW2 only has the 1 long quest chain, you're a fool. Hearts are quests. Doesn't matter if you don't have to pick the up remotely or from a hub, they are quests. Just given a different wrapping.
Also another post saying WildStar holds your hand because of instanced pvp.....there's open world pvp as well. So gg.
[...] but once you figure that 'hey- i can do what i want!..no hand holding...' its a pretty badass feeling! [...]
It seems we didn't play the same game named WildStar. I never played a MMO with more hand holding than in Carbine's Sci-Fi project.
Oh I thought you had actually tried ESO?
ESO was even more linear than SWTOR, and made Rift seem like a sandbox. And no, I am not talking about the starter islands.
I hope you're joking.... ESO has hardly any hand holding, that was peoples biggest complaint was that they had to figure out TOO much for themselves. I for one actually liked that about ESO.
well I think WS biggest mistake was taking the character development out of the game, and ESO did the exact opposite by making everything about the character, down to the specific choices of weapon and armor, etc. All the games I grew up to were about the character. WS is about the items. Also the cookie-cutter nature of WS almost makes me puke. I am so sick of these games made for 6 year olds, who have no thumbs apparently.
With the letdown of GW2 because of the simplified character creation, I been waiting a long time for a game like ESO, and you all can bash it if you never played it, or if you just dabbled in it, but if you give the game a chance it really grows on you, and that is the exact opposite of how I see WS going.
Oh and the RVR zone in ESO, I cant think of any game that compares to it, they just did it right, I dont know what else to say. I thought it would end up all zerging, but its not, you can do anything from small scale raids to 1v1 hunting.
And yea its funny how everyone bashed ESO, and raved about WS, and now that we had a taste of both, I think I can easily say for the PvP crowd that ESO is the clear winner by far.
WS wil be a solid game and it has its good points for sure, but it also looks very hectic, I would say if you want to play WS, be sure to remove the windows key off your keyboard.
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i just wrote alot and i am tired so i'm only to to respond to a few/or one of these points lol for now atleast
Look at my other response and stop lying eso doesn't even have dueling say and/or even implying that it is going to be the better pvp game based of facts is a complete Lie.im a hardcore pvper and eso's pvp is a clunkfest
I loved pvp in ESO, and for you to only point out that there is no dueling yet you call yourself a hardcore pvp'er and act like dueling makes or breaks pvp for you is laughable..... lol... It's a tri-faction kill on sight game.... What do you need to duel for? The pvp zone is the size of an entire continent... What do you need to duel for? The pvp battles in ESO are MASSIVE on the scale of DAoC... What do you need to duel for? Just sayin....
Lol! a eso fan-boi accusing a gamer of lying about a different game , you eso fans are the biggest lairs.i have had to correct several of you when its comes to lying and bending the truth ( mainly about end game content in the crappy game and pvp) all the time, Just because your lack luster game doesn't have end-content and people are gonna leave it within a couple of months after launch doesn't mean you gotta be sour.
Without any true character development, and such a limited number of skills to choose from, people are going to be leaving WS a lot faster then ESO.
Just look at the BETAs lol, WS is always losing testers, and it seems like ESO tests just get bigger and bigger.
The end game in ESO is much better then WS, because there is motivation to go fight for your alliance and join the war.
I think you will see WS under NDA for a long time, because they know they have problems with keeping people in that game. How long do you just chase items for? How do you connect with a character with such a limited number of skills to choose from, and no variation from one character to another.
as I stated above these cookie cutter character games make me want to puke. I am so happy that ESO has brought us something with some complexity while leaving a lot of flexibility with how we make our character.
and not only can you also chase items in ESO, but you can also make your own legendary weapons/armor. So in terms of character and play-style customization, hands down ESO destroys WS
oh and just FYI, I was on the WS bandwagon I was stoked for it, then I played ESO and I wont ever be looking back.
^^ Perfect example of a eso fanboi twisting the truth about wildstar vs eso tsk tsk tsk, First off how could you even say that Eso offers pretty much more features than wildstar, features is where Wildstar slams eso out of the water, being a closed beta testers for both,Eso's only saving graces are its questing and voice acting everything eles is lack-luster and clunky ( from animation's to combat)
When it comes to character development that depends,with wild-star skills you get tiers that add effects to your skills so as a esper my build could be completely different from the esper next to me , in eso esp in pvp you see the same skills being used as well as the same morphs because most of them are not balanced and one is usually better (esp pvp wise) than the other how in any way shape or form is that better ? and when it comes to people leaving fast that's a lie like i said of one eso's pros is its lvling but its has NO end-game but 5 man and tedious avava which will get boring after a couple (2-3) months.
Um i think your misinformed, wild-star closed beta keys sell for 150 $ eso's only sell for 50-75$ i don't see why people would pay a higher price if they didn't want to get into beta ( information from a Beta key seller and self experience)
these points doe. how is the end-game better when its non-existent? like i said only 5 man instances and avava thats it with wildstar however there's 25 and 40 man raiding, 2v2,3v3 and 5v5 arena,battles-grounds,Actual Open world pvp, Housing and fully player made 40v40 plots, why do you eso fanbois even try,these lies saying ESO has more etc are complete crap it doesn't matter what u like or not,facts are facts and wild-star beats eso in features by miles .
lol again there is far more character variation is wild-star than eso the only section in that that eso wins is character creation besides that wild-star offers more in this department as well.
you say that until you at at the respec shrine spending thousands of gold trying to get your build like jolly joe who beat you a few hours before , yea ok eso could have been great but the people making the game fell short . period.
you can name weapons..... ok ? can u change how they look(besides silly clunky animation enchantments).... no,but you can name them and that's all you mainly care about........................is being unique...........................but your going to the game that has the least amount of features out of the 2..................... for you to do that .....................#GLwithDat
This was me ! i had kept switching between the 2 and i finally said wild-star is a bad horrible game and i'm sticking with eso because its Was just so awesome!.......... until i logged back on my wild-star CBT account and saw that i had been missing playtime on a gem, Eso is to sub-par with very lack-luster content i was a fanboi too until i saw the way better light that was wild-star and now i'm not turning back you can bet your bucks on that!
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Now normally i'll read anything, it's what i'm in the articles to do, but you sir are being a hypocrite. You're accusing him of being an ESO fanboy when you yourself are being a HUGE WildStar fanboy. It's all a matter of opinion, some of us are going to transition to WildStar and enjoy their time there while others of us who enjoy games like DAoC, SWG, RIFT etc. are going to transition to ESO and make a new MMORPG home for ourselves there. I personally couldn't stand WildStar and i've been in several beta's just to help test and improve the game. Yet, I loved my time on ESO and can't wait for more. Like I said, it's all a matter of opinion.
Now normally i'll read anything, it's what i'm in the articles to do, but you sir are being a hypocrite. You're accusing him of being an ESO fanboy when you yourself are being a HUGE WildStar fanboy. It's all a matter of opinion, some of us are going to transition to WildStar and enjoy their time there while others of us who enjoy games like DAoC, SWG, RIFT etc. are going to transition to ESO and make a new MMORPG home for ourselves there. I personally couldn't stand WildStar and i've been in several beta's just to help test and improve the game. Yet, I loved my time on ESO and can't wait for more. Like I said, it's all a matter of opinion.
not sure why you lobbed Rift in there...its closer to WoW/WildStar than it is SWG/DAoC/ESO
evilastro.. I can't stop laughing about your posts. You're calling me an ESO fanboy just because I said that WildStar has too much hand holding for my taste? Seriously? I just played Morrowind.. no other ES game.. not even Skyrim. And I'm not sure if I'll play ESO. So where am I an ESO fanboy? You should really go outside and enjoy spring - that's definitely better than raging 24/7 on the internet just because someone dislikes a game you like.
Personally I thought it felt about right. I knew roughly where I had to go to do stuff, and whenever I decided to go off the beaten path there was often something interesting to find and do too. There is so much to do that you can focus on what you enjoy, granted there are times when I want to do more than one thing and I *gasp* have to make a choice, but I think that is a good thing. For people who want the rails, you will have plenty to do staying on the rails but there is nothing keeping you on them if you want to go see what is over the next hill.
Got a second invite to the beta this last weekend and logged in for about 2mins then logged out and had no interest in logging back in whatsoever.
It just didn't do anything for me at all.
That's great. Please stop applying for the contests, then, since you have no interest in it. I got lucky enough to be in the weekend beta last 3 weekends in a row, and I can tell you, people are dying to get in.
I think most people aren't complaining about Wildstar simply because they can't get in. They applied for the Beta the first time they could, never got an invite, still can't get an invite, and have just moved on. I'm pretty sure they'll be back when this game goes OB or Release.
As for handholding- I, personally, don't feel Wildstar holds your hand. As long as you don't ask for it, you don't get led by the collar.
i've been lucky to get 3 weekend passes aswell.. first weekend i pretty much spent every waking hour on it., second weekend i kind of rage quit :P, and the third i thought i'd give it another go and see if i had over reacted(and i did sort of) .. point is they're tests nothing more... no one deserves to get into to those it's just random .. being super excited about the game or having no clue whatsoever it does'nt discriminate nor should it.
Yea and we all know that graphics alone make or break a game.....THAT is laughable.
I totally agree with you
Originally posted by linadragon
When will you children learn there is a huge difference between graphics (which is a reference to graphics fidelity) and art style. It has a cartoon like art style and good graphics fidelity. They are rather enjoyable when not turned down all the way like that screen shot seems to be doing... (i'm pzuzled why ground clutter and things seem to be turned down)
When will nit pickers not moan about this and that - you know what I meant in my post. Graphics to me is what i see graphically on my screen and to me this game has terrible graphics
Originally posted by zelaex evilastro.. I can't stop laughing about your posts. You're calling me an ESO fanboy just because I said that WildStar has too much hand holding for my taste? Seriously? I just played Morrowind.. no other ES game.. not even Skyrim. And I'm not sure if I'll play ESO. So where am I an ESO fanboy? You should really go outside and enjoy spring - that's definitely better than raging 24/7 on the internet just because someone dislikes a game you like.
You are a fanboy because of your post history.
Personally neither game will be my long term home, but at least Wildstar manages to be entertaining in the interim.
Noones raging here I usually get a good chuckle at the fanboy posts.
It doesn't open up. Its still the same old linear crap just in bigger maps. Have you even made it past the starter zone?
Wow for someone who consistently bashes on how horrible ESO is you sure must have enjoyed yourself to make it to 50+ content!!! But, we all know that's not the case because you didn't play the game to 50+.
Unlike some people on here I like to play games for a decent amount of time before making judgement. Also my partner likes ESO and wanted me to tank for his healer.
Bill, it's time to strongarm Carbine for a release date please!
I.Have.To.Know!!
If someone is talking in general chat in a language you dont understand, chances are they're not talking to you. So chill out and stop bitching about it!
[...] but once you figure that 'hey- i can do what i want!..no hand holding...' its a pretty badass feeling! [...]
It seems we didn't play the same game named WildStar. I never played a MMO with more hand holding than in Carbine's Sci-Fi project.
Oh I thought you had actually tried ESO?
ESO was even more linear than SWTOR, and made Rift seem like a sandbox. And no, I am not talking about the starter islands.
It's okay. Wild star sucks. Don't need to lie about another game just to try and make your game look better. Besides Wildstar is going for a completely different audience. Hand holding is par for the course.
If Wildstar is hand holding, then ESO is teaching you how to use pull up diapers.
You're angry. I understand that. ESO is a game for adults that opens up after the starter areas. Everyone knows that. This isn't December. The NDA is gone and everyone knows the truth. It's been to ESO benefit. Think the same can be said for Wildstar when they finally drop theirs?
Played the game to 50+
It doesn't open up. Its still the same old linear crap just in bigger maps. Have you even made it past the starter zone?
So how did you get to 50+? Beta cap was 17? Oh are we supposed to take your word for that your part of the other beta testers that have been testing during none beta weekends? Yeah feel free to post a link, video, screen shot cause I am calling BS.
This is a clip from someone in the beta. Also I got to level 27 from playing in the last beta weekend starting a new character. Its really quick to level in that game if you know how.
I was in the beta for ESO and my feeling is that it's a nice single player game, not a good MMO. The end-game consists of faction PvP and a few dungeons. I loved the crafting in ESO though. More than anything the play style reminded me of D&D Online.
I wonder what PVE players will make of what mostly is a PvP engame?
Originally posted by zelaex evilastro.. I can't stop laughing about your posts. You're calling me an ESO fanboy just because I said that WildStar has too much hand holding for my taste? Seriously? I just played Morrowind.. no other ES game.. not even Skyrim. And I'm not sure if I'll play ESO. So where am I an ESO fanboy? You should really go outside and enjoy spring - that's definitely better than raging 24/7 on the internet just because someone dislikes a game you like.
You are a fanboy because of your post history.
Personally neither game will be my long term home, but at least Wildstar manages to be entertaining in the interim.
Noones raging here I usually get a good chuckle at the fanboy posts.
Might be time to take your own advice?
You sure spend a lot of time calling other people fanbois on these forums when mostly all I see from you is endless bashing of ESO and praise / defense for Wildstar. With most of the ESO bashing being either ridiculous or complete misinformation. What does that sound like to you? Yeah..... talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
It doesn't open up. Its still the same old linear crap just in bigger maps. Have you even made it past the starter zone?
Wow for someone who consistently bashes on how horrible ESO is you sure must have enjoyed yourself to make it to 50+ content!!! But, we all know that's not the case because you didn't play the game to 50+.
Unlike some people on here I like to play games for a decent amount of time before making judgement. Also my partner likes ESO and wanted me to tank for his healer.
Based on your post history for the last couple months there is a 0% chance you played to 50+ or are even a part of the PTS server test pool.
Right. 90% of my posts are in the WildStar section so I must be an ESO fanboy. That sounds quite logical. Not. Both games are fine for a different audience (WS: rushing to endgame, raiding, twitchy combat = will attract MOBA-Fans - ESO: slow progression, immersion, mass PVP, tactical combat = will attract oldschool SP-RPG fans) and both have a lot of flaws (WS: questing experience, performance, immersion - ESO: phasing, bugs, horrible marketing decisions with paygates) but you can't deny that the hand holding aspect in WS is enormous. As an explorer (path system) you get everything handed by a giant arrow over your head.. finding treasures at a predetermined place, placing sattelites at a predetermined place.. etc. That isn't fun.. it's just an occupational therapy. You don't have to search for yourself.. everything is crystal clear. And guess what.. I didn't stop after the tutorial zone. I made it to 50.
Right. 90% of my posts are in the WildStar section so I must be an ESO fanboy. That sounds quite logical. Not. Both games are fine for a different audience (WS: rushing to endgame, raiding, twitchy combat = will attract MOBA-Fans - ESO: slow progression, immersion, mass PVP, tactical combat = will attract oldschool SP-RPG fans) and both have a lot of flaws (WS: questing experience, performance, immersion - ESO: phasing, bugs, horrible marketing decisions with paygates) but you can't deny that the hand holding aspect in WS is enormous. As an explorer (path system) you get everything handed by a giant arrow over your head.. finding treasures at a predetermined place, placing sattelites at a predetermined place.. etc. That isn't fun.. it's just an occupational therapy. You don't have to search for yourself.. everything is crystal clear. And guess what.. I didn't stop after the tutorial zone. I made it to 50.
I understand where you are coming from. My point wasn't that Wildstar doesn't have hand holding, it does, I just found it funny that people were coming on and saying how they preferred ESO because of this, when ESO is about as linear as you can get and you get directed exactly where you need to go. I probably unfairly directed it at you, when it was more of a general observation. So for that I apologise.
To be perfectly honest, I don't think questing is a strength of either game. Wildstar is fairly standard quests through and through, and the ESO ones have terrible dialogue and pretty boring tasks. The voice actors in ESO even sound bored with what they are saying.
Anyway this is getting way off topic, so back to discussing the hand holding.
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i just wrote alot and i am tired so i'm only to to respond to a few/or one of these points lol for now atleast
Look at my other response and stop lying eso doesn't even have dueling say and/or even implying that it is going to be the better pvp game based of facts is a complete Lie.im a hardcore pvper and eso's pvp is a clunkfest
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I like Wildstar better than ESO. but i dont think Wildstar is condemed in this article.
i have played both quite extensively (not just in beta weekends). they have great potentials.
Wildstar questing is traditional mmorpg style. Sometime we need to kill a lot of mobs to complete quests/zone. it is quite a hassle. ESO quests are more single player. a bit more immersive. but with voice over is going to be like Bill wrote (something that can’t and won’t be replicated easily with expansion for ESO). much like SWTOR the overhead expense in doing additional contents re voice over will always be there. this is quite a challenge in the long term.
then we have Wildstar dungeons. they are amazing. for those who havent tried them. even if you dont like the game right now if u get a chance may as well try them. very well presented, very good quality and very fun. imo dungeons will Wildstar strongest trait.
ESO i will play it too (already bought imperial edition). looking forward to it is AvA smthing that Wildstar does not have. and i want to see how it rly compares to GW2 wvw. though i ll reserve judgement until the game is released for a while and state of war (and its politics) is more matured. and then will see if it has a true quality. i just hope so.
He seems to have clutter and stuff turned all the way down causing the terrain that would normally have grass and stuff to be just a flat baseless land devoid of anything
When will you children learn there is a huge difference between graphics (which is a reference to graphics fidelity) and art style. It has a cartoon like art style and good graphics fidelity. They are rather enjoyable when not turned down all the way like that screen shot seems to be doing... (i'm pzuzled why ground clutter and things seem to be turned down)
Premium MMORPGs do not feature built-in cheating via cash for gold pay 2 win. PLAY to win or don't play.
This was a poorly thought out article. Make the claim that WildStar won't survive because its difficulty is to hard to sustain a casual player-base and so Carbine will be forced to make the game easier upsetting the hardcore/raider types its catering to atm or possibly be faced with a game that doesn't make a profit.
Make the claim that WildStar's questing system is quite lacking in ingenuity.
But don't say WildStar has to much hand-holding. That's an inflammatory and outright false claim when talking about WildStar. The only thing that holds your hand in this game is directing you to where quest targets are. Which would have been made ANYWAY with addons since its launching with addon-support.
Also, look back at pretty much -every- game that has traditional quests and you see the same. WoW, SWTOR, Rift, Tera, GW2, I can go on and on. They all have quest tracking. How is this warranted enough to claim WildStar holds the players hand to much?
To address a couple posts i've seen. To the person who says GW2 only has the 1 long quest chain, you're a fool. Hearts are quests. Doesn't matter if you don't have to pick the up remotely or from a hub, they are quests. Just given a different wrapping.
Also another post saying WildStar holds your hand because of instanced pvp.....there's open world pvp as well. So gg.
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I hope you're joking.... ESO has hardly any hand holding, that was peoples biggest complaint was that they had to figure out TOO much for themselves. I for one actually liked that about ESO.
I loved pvp in ESO, and for you to only point out that there is no dueling yet you call yourself a hardcore pvp'er and act like dueling makes or breaks pvp for you is laughable..... lol... It's a tri-faction kill on sight game.... What do you need to duel for? The pvp zone is the size of an entire continent... What do you need to duel for? The pvp battles in ESO are MASSIVE on the scale of DAoC... What do you need to duel for? Just sayin....
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Now normally i'll read anything, it's what i'm in the articles to do, but you sir are being a hypocrite. You're accusing him of being an ESO fanboy when you yourself are being a HUGE WildStar fanboy. It's all a matter of opinion, some of us are going to transition to WildStar and enjoy their time there while others of us who enjoy games like DAoC, SWG, RIFT etc. are going to transition to ESO and make a new MMORPG home for ourselves there. I personally couldn't stand WildStar and i've been in several beta's just to help test and improve the game. Yet, I loved my time on ESO and can't wait for more. Like I said, it's all a matter of opinion.
not sure why you lobbed Rift in there...its closer to WoW/WildStar than it is SWG/DAoC/ESO
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i've been lucky to get 3 weekend passes aswell.. first weekend i pretty much spent every waking hour on it., second weekend i kind of rage quit :P, and the third i thought i'd give it another go and see if i had over reacted(and i did sort of) .. point is they're tests nothing more... no one deserves to get into to those it's just random .. being super excited about the game or having no clue whatsoever it does'nt discriminate nor should it.
I had fun once, it was terrible.
I totally agree with you
When will nit pickers not moan about this and that - you know what I meant in my post. Graphics to me is what i see graphically on my screen and to me this game has terrible graphics
You are a fanboy because of your post history.
Personally neither game will be my long term home, but at least Wildstar manages to be entertaining in the interim.
Noones raging here
I usually get a good chuckle at the fanboy posts.
Might be time to take your own advice?
Unlike some people on here I like to play games for a decent amount of time before making judgement. Also my partner likes ESO and wanted me to tank for his healer.
Bill, it's time to strongarm Carbine for a release date please!
I.Have.To.Know!!
If someone is talking in general chat in a language you dont understand, chances are they're not talking to you. So chill out and stop bitching about it!
This is a clip from someone in the beta. Also I got to level 27 from playing in the last beta weekend starting a new character. Its really quick to level in that game if you know how.
I was in the beta for ESO and my feeling is that it's a nice single player game, not a good MMO. The end-game consists of faction PvP and a few dungeons. I loved the crafting in ESO though. More than anything the play style reminded me of D&D Online.
I wonder what PVE players will make of what mostly is a PvP engame?
You sure spend a lot of time calling other people fanbois on these forums when mostly all I see from you is endless bashing of ESO and praise / defense for Wildstar. With most of the ESO bashing being either ridiculous or complete misinformation. What does that sound like to you? Yeah..... talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Based on your post history for the last couple months there is a 0% chance you played to 50+ or are even a part of the PTS server test pool.
Right. 90% of my posts are in the WildStar section so I must be an ESO fanboy. That sounds quite logical. Not. Both games are fine for a different audience (WS: rushing to endgame, raiding, twitchy combat = will attract MOBA-Fans - ESO: slow progression, immersion, mass PVP, tactical combat = will attract oldschool SP-RPG fans) and both have a lot of flaws (WS: questing experience, performance, immersion - ESO: phasing, bugs, horrible marketing decisions with paygates) but you can't deny that the hand holding aspect in WS is enormous. As an explorer (path system) you get everything handed by a giant arrow over your head.. finding treasures at a predetermined place, placing sattelites at a predetermined place.. etc. That isn't fun.. it's just an occupational therapy. You don't have to search for yourself.. everything is crystal clear. And guess what.. I didn't stop after the tutorial zone. I made it to 50.
Elite: Dangerous - Space Exploration & Trading.
I understand where you are coming from. My point wasn't that Wildstar doesn't have hand holding, it does, I just found it funny that people were coming on and saying how they preferred ESO because of this, when ESO is about as linear as you can get and you get directed exactly where you need to go. I probably unfairly directed it at you, when it was more of a general observation. So for that I apologise.
To be perfectly honest, I don't think questing is a strength of either game. Wildstar is fairly standard quests through and through, and the ESO ones have terrible dialogue and pretty boring tasks. The voice actors in ESO even sound bored with what they are saying.
Anyway this is getting way off topic, so back to discussing the hand holding.