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Everquest Landmark Alpha : Marketplace
What are everyones thoughts on EQN:L already having a functional marketplace in the game in Alpha testing? A phase which players already have to pay $60-$100 to be a part of.. I am of the $60 group.
I personally do not like it. The shop should have been put in a couple weeks before open beta. Having it in the alpha is just greedy.
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I think they should credit founder's with store credits equal to the package they purchased, that's what I think and all things considered is the norm for these types of programs.
In short we should get free credits, that's what I think.
Because I bought in a long time ago and the marketplace was put in this weeks patch.
Get it? Probably not.
Ask for a refund? Show those bastards!!
"If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"
I don't have a problem with it tbh and I've been playing since 'launch'.
SOE are selling packs of resources that are readily available ingame and appearance items that I care little for. As all items persist through alpha/beta/launch I don't really see what the problem is.
"If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"
Posts are already being deleted about it. I think I will get a refund. A shame really.
I had a post with several likes and +1s that vanished because it was " trolling ". I said to those that support such a thing so early on need to realize that others dont and for them to get over it. Stick your head up SOEs behind and actually troll and your are ok but any sort of valid unhappy posts gets whined about until removed.
smh
Armor or clothes in yet, but we get a shop with loads of them that cost from 7 to 10 dollars. Its pure greed to put a live cash shop in alpha so i got a refund.
Wait............
Are you .. telling me that SOE just added a real money cash shop in a alpha game?! And no, I am not being sarcastic ..
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
I'm...not really getting the outrage here.
I mean, you know the game is F2P so at some point it's going to have a cash shop. Said cash shop is one of the features that they would probably want to implement and test during Alpha since beta is supposed to be feature complete.
So...why are you so surprised?
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Because the option for them to sell there own stuff was not added like the final product will let them do.
So they think that by getting the Alpha they where intitle to make money if the devs do so.
( Greedy testers ) -----> that's what it looks for me the way the testers are letting us know for now, please give good excuse for us to think otherwise please do.
Selling YOUR creations for money on THEIR shop is one of the core meahcnics for this game.
So can we please stop acting as if they do something bad here? They implemented the shop system and plan on adding the option to sell your stuff shortly after. That means you can MAKE money here and again it is a CORE mechanic as adverticed.
Then again, ignoring the facts... it is still a cash shop that offers nothing of value at all. Ressources that you can just gather yourself in a matter of minutes and cosmetics. There have been way worse shops in other games and about every publisher is implementing their shop as soon as everyone can join the game, most of the time even sooner.
TL;DR:
Stop overreacting, check what is actually been done and what features where promised for alpha like months ago.
MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.
Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?
So implementing an adverticed core mechanic is a reason to ignore a game now. Got it lol.
Really guys. Stop talking about stuff if you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Or at least don't pass judgment on something if you don't understand it.
MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.
Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?
Seriously lol.
It's a freaking F2P game...what did you guys expect????
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Before you attack SOE. Lets think a minute. Who is dumber? The company putting a cash shop in Alpha for revenue to further development and fund EQN development. OR and I mean OR. The people who pay initial prices for in-game content DURING ALPHA?!?!?!
You people are so ridiculous to complain over your own actions. Asking for a refund is childish, immature and irresponsible. If you don't want to give SOE money...DON'T!!! Do not give them money, ask for refund and then complain.
If I want a world in which people can purchase success and power with cash, I'll play Real Life. Keep Virtual Worlds Virtual!
SoE is and has been honest about what they are doing with Landmark.
From what I can tell from forum responses the outrage is stemming from the early alpha access customers who paid $60 assuming they receive everything in development for their money. I think they may be forgetting the fact the $60 purchased them early access, and a healthy amount of items in a F2P game.
I do not see a problem with the cash shop in a F2P game, even in alpha AS LONG as players are reissued the items they purchase through the shop on reset and launch.
I intend on playing this game and EQN but I have not taken the prepurchase dive, figure I would save the $60 for the full cash shop when I identify things I will need for my playstyle and interests. Those who spent the $60 and are shocked by the store, just keep in mind you $60 is not for a B2P game plus you've received alot of unique items that will not likely be available through the store otherwise.
I'm not complaining about them releasing key features in a functional state in Alpha. The marketplace is going to be a huge deal, it needs to be tested, prices and all.
No one is forcing you to pay for Alpha or purchase items from the shop. Other's being able to so does not harm you in anyway, unless your ego is hurt in some way that they can or are willing to do so and you aren't.
Greedy? Seriously. They are making two high end mmos that will be F2P. We'll see how "free" they are, but PS2 is hopefully a good example of having a great game that costs nothing if you choose to do so. Not that the all access pass ($10-15) is anything out of the ordinary for a monthly sub, except it gives access to all SOE games plus perks. So greedy...
You paid for access to Alpha and got some goodies. That is all that was promised. If you can't handle the marketplace now, not sure how that will change in Beta/Release. Again, no harm is coming to you now or then.
You might think your opinion is valid and others might agree with you, but really it doesn't matter. SOE is making the game and has bigger issues to deal with then you being upset that the marketplace is available earlier then you imagined.
There was no bait and switch or any shady business going on. Hell they are so greedy that you can get a full refund if you aren't happy. Really come on now.
Those "avoiding" the games (yet still posting away) should really do so. There is a difference between constructive criticism and just being pure negative. Enjoy your $60+sub games that keep you entertained for a few months...
I typically dislike f2p games, but going into EQN:L, I knew it was f2p, and what they were going to do, if you didn't, then rage on and nothing anyone says is going to help you.
I personally do not see anything in their shop I need to buy, to play the game. Anything you do buy, if it is alpha, or closed/open beta, you get to keep, so that is not a worry.
Closed beta starts next week, everything you work on, you get to keep, minus your land plot.
Things can change, but to be surprised they put a shop in, when it is a f2p game, is silly. Most p2p games even double dip and have shops now, which I really can't stand, as someone that doesn't even like the f2p model much.
As long as it doesn't offer advantages you can't get for free I never care about cash shops. This isn't a F2P thing either though, cash shops are being added to sub based and B2P games too so stop trying to say this is about being F2P. Cash shops are just part of the gaming market now. I'm more surprised by a game that doesn't have them than one that does have them if it is an online game.
In this specific example the marketplace is going to allow players to sell their own templates to other players so it is an important feature to get tested and working so the outrage makes even less sense.