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Can't wait for this game!!

Well, that is until I was able to spend six hours at my mates this weekend watching him play the beta.

 

Now before the usual defenders and apologists crash this thread to tell me I'm just a hater, let me counter that right off the bat. I am not. I have been quietly supportive of this game for months. I've played all of the other ES games and have played mmorpgs for 12 years. I am a rational, articulate family man with no agenda and no axe to grind. So deal with it.

 

The following is what I found to be the reality of playing what is basically the launch version of ESO:

 

Muddy and bland graphical style

Stuttering and choppy animation

Abysmal UI

Horrible menu system

Generic quest/story content that feels forced

Clunky combat

Cartoon collision detection

Huge lag spikes

Tab targetting disguised as action based combat

Lots of missing/standard mmorpg features

Uninspiring and boring dungeons

Terrible AI for npcs

Far too many bugs (even in starter areas)

Broken phasing

Punishing/horrible xp rewards

Grouping actually penalises play

 

The list could go on and on...seriously. No wonder so many people have rushed to cancel their pre orders after this beta weekend. The game is neither an mmorpg nor an ES game and it shows. It just feels very stilted and akward in every sense. It feels like a total cash grab in its current state and needs another 6-12 months development imo before it will be ready for launch.

 

The fact they are pressing ahead and launching in this state is laughable. This does not have the polish or stability of a AAA mmorpg.

 

This game is bad. No other way of putting it.

 

The industry has been pumping out this lacklustre, cynical crap for years now and I am amazed an IP of this calibre has put its name to this mediocre garbage. It feels like a cheap F2P game and it shouldn't. The IP and we as gamers deserve better.

 

So go ahead and flame me all you want, but I'm telling you all now, this game doesn't deserve to be more than a niche game with maybe 300k subs until the inevitable cash shop and maintenance mode kicks in.

 

Buyer beware. I would have been super pissed if I had paid $60 for this garbage.

 

Pre Order cancelled. Such a waste of potential.

Comments

  • obake90obake90 Member Posts: 60
    You will be back.....
  • Mad+DogMad+Dog Member UncommonPosts: 785
    cya

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  • PrecusorPrecusor Member UncommonPosts: 3,589
    Imho.. ESO art style is pretty damn good.

     

     

  • Jellyb33nJellyb33n Member Posts: 2
    Originally posted by obake90
    You will be back.....

    Not even if they paid ME $60 plus $15 a month to play it.

     

    Bad game is *really* bad in this case.

  • obake90obake90 Member Posts: 60

    When you do come back, look me up in the game.......... I'll be the emperor.

    I'll give you some gold too because well, you will be really far behind and wont match up very well with players who started at the start.

  • SalmonManSalmonMan Member UncommonPosts: 192

    I agree with some of what you say, but not all.

    • Graphics were fine for me.
    • No stuttering or choppy animation here.
    • UI was OK, although I prefer it with addons showing numbers, etc. But I appreciate what they were trying to do, and some will like it. No issue as you can so easily change it.
    • Just gotta get used to them I suppose - every game, especially new ones, always seem to have a mess of menus to wade through. There are a lot of them though.
    • Hmmmm, the quest ones are tricky. I too, rolled my eyes at many quests. But many others were fine and quite interesting. Until someone comes up with a revolutionary answer to this, I'm not sure it'll change - in any game. What exactly do you want to see I would ask you?
    • Combat seemed substantial to me - you could feel the hits being meted out and taken. Some aspects were awful, like lockon, etc. It is very button mashy though - but it is a console game also.
    • Collision detection seemed OK.
    • Some lag - no more than most other games.
    • I'm used to tab targetting, so I don't care.
    • What 'standard' MMO features were missing? Please elaborate.
    • Dungeons were your standard fantasy fare - neither awful nor great. Average at best I suppose you could say.
    • Didn't run into too much bad AI for NPC's I have to say.
    • Bugs. Yep, tons of these. And many that crippled the quest chains. Awful ,just awful. They'll want to fix those. On multiple characters I simply could not progress - even the main storyline.
    • Phasing. For me this is awful. It's so anti grouping and anti-doing stuff with friends. You are constantly being thrown out of sync with friends and guildies and they can't do quests with you or you with them. I hated it. They had better fix this. Don't get me wrong, I understand why they did it. When you do stuff in the world you actually see the world change - but others in your group or your friends are not that far along you get locked out from each other. You just end up soloing the game - except it's an MMO. Very weird decision on their part.
    • No issue with rewards or XP. As I leveled that seemed fine. I'm in no rush anyway.
    • How does it penalize play? I just like grouping to do stuff together. The game even stopped me doing that unless everyone was at the same stage of the game. If they weren't they got phased out of sync.
    The Phasing and Bugs killed it for me - I cancelled my digital imperial pre-order. All the other points you raised are not of concern to me. Also, no endgame raids it seems? Just a game plus type thing? I admit I'm rather vague on that - can someone clarify this? Are their big, endgame raid bosses? Or is it just questing and dungeons?
  • kartoolkartool Member UncommonPosts: 520

    I like the game myself. I find it slower paced than most MMOs out there. I don't feel the need to rush to end-game. I'm interested in the crafting system because it actually looks like it could be useful while leveling unlike most games where I'm crafting things 10 levels below what I can actually use.

    I do wish they had fixed all the quest bugs for this beta though. Every single beta weekend it's been the buggy quests that have made me exit the game and go play something else. I don't have the time or patience for standing around for 20 minutes to see if a mob is going to show up, that or logging off and back on to see if it fixes it. It was a bad decision on the devs part to beta the most recent changes, but leave broken quests everywhere. This was the weekend a lot of people who were on the fence about this one were going to use to decide to buy or not. 

  • Bad.dogBad.dog Member UncommonPosts: 1,131
    Originally posted by Jellyb33n
    Originally posted by obake90
    You will be back.....

    Not even if they paid ME $60 plus $15 a month to play it.

     

    Bad game is *really* bad in this case.

    Jump on your main account and tell us all about it !!

  • BelgaraathBelgaraath Member UncommonPosts: 3,205
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by Jellyb33n
    Originally posted by obake90
    You will be back.....

    Not even if they paid ME $60 plus $15 a month to play it.

     

    Bad game is *really* bad in this case.

    Jump on your main account and tell us all about it !!

    Lol exactly. He says he's been a supporter for months but he has two posts here. 

    There Is Always Hope!

  • skyline385skyline385 Member Posts: 564

    Is that you, Hrotha?

    After the last two Refund spam threads, did your main account get blocked that you are spamming another refund thread with a new account?

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  • itbewillyitbewilly Member UncommonPosts: 351

    The only valid point you made OP was all the bugs. It literally went from once every one in a while a few beta's about to a big number of key missions screwed up this beta. I dont know what the hell you expected with the rest of what you said.

     

    Combat is more fluid to me then Skyrim and leaps and bounds above Oblivion which is good because the game plays a lot like them.

    Tab Targeting? Really? You are so used to alt tabbing mobs probably i guess its second nature to tap tab before fighting anything. Personally since GW2 and NWO i never use tab targeting and prefer to play this way whether im using a ranged class or melee.

    Graphics are as good as you can expect. If they made an MMO as good looking  as Skyrim then it would take a top end pc to run it and 90% of the people playing ESO wouldnt be playing it.

    So basically the only valid point you had was the bugs. Everything else was non-issue for me. I just wonder wtf they are going to do in 3 weeks if they launch and some of the key quest's are still bugged. People aren't going to want to miss progression and aren't going to like being prevented from doing everything and leveling as fast as possible.

  • AzzrasAzzras Member UncommonPosts: 407
    Originally posted by Jellyb33n
    Originally posted by obake90
    You will be back.....

    Not even if they paid ME $60 plus $15 a month to play it.

     

    Bad game is *really* bad in this case.

    So you created an account today just to say this?

    Seems fishy to me.

    Are you one of those paid forum-goers?  I hear tell that Blizz employs people for this.

    I'll gladly pay you to never play any games that I might try.  Agree?

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  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311


    Originally posted by Jellyb33n
    Originally posted by obake90 You will be back.....
    Not even if they paid ME $60 plus $15 a month to play it.

     

    Bad game is *really* bad in this case.


    bad compared to what? just curious.

  • AzzrasAzzras Member UncommonPosts: 407
    Originally posted by keithian
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by Jellyb33n
    Originally posted by obake90
    You will be back.....

    Not even if they paid ME $60 plus $15 a month to play it.

     

    Bad game is *really* bad in this case.

    Jump on your main account and tell us all about it !!

    Lol exactly. He says he's been a supporter for months but he has two posts here. 

    Report him.  The admins can determine if he has another account created.  It's against the TOS and is an automatic 120 day ban for ALL accounts he's created. 

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