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I really, truly love the tears of gamers like you. Keep them flowing, please.
Oh, and L2P legitimately.
Well op i think i know where you are going but your not looking at the WHOLE picture.
I agree with the thought of you SHOULD know your burning but not knowing is actually VERY realistic when talking about other situations.An example would be you walk up to some guy on the street,there is no ADD-ON UI to tell you he is actually a 5th degree black belt that would kick your ass.
Matter of fact,you can't walk up to anyone on the street and know more than 1% about them.
I will tell you something else about allowing add-ons,players will use them to CHEAT and that is 100% a guarantee.it never stops with the simple information there are always coders that if anything is allowed client side they will try to exploit it.
I will use another example about "not knowing".If you saw someone hurt in real life,you would know the person is hurt but not really how badly.It would be like any fighter/Boxer's mentality would tell you,don't stop beating him until it's official because i have seen many an upset comeback from someone who looked beaten.
I think knowing actually makes combat superficial and adds MORE hand holding.Again an example....MANY a BOSS AI involves intervals,where they might perform a special deadly move.Well what happens with add-ons is players simply wait and watch for the special AI moves at 50/25% hp then act accordingly.
Glowing sparklies,no that is not the answer either,.but just like ion real life,you have a pretty good idea if someone is about to do something above and beyond the normal.Example a hockey player takes a massive back swing you have a pretty good idea he is taking a slap shot and not a wrist shot and other players realize that and predict it to go down and block the shot.
Bottom line is add-ons are cheap and lame and 100% NEVER needed.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
How easy will these animations and subtle visual cues be to see in the middle of a zerg or chaotic PvP though?
I know Matt Firor has confirmed publicly that the game/pvp will be lag free but still....with so many characters zerging all over the place I fear these cues will become lost in the fray...
WOW!!! someone has really high opinions about himself.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
Last w-e in Cyrodil, I had likely some 100 people fighting it out on screen, and it stayed superbly fluid, unlaggy, and readable. So no worry on that. My only complaint would be the difficulty in targeting when everyone is waltzing around, but that is just a matter of training. And more skills choice
It should be no surprise what-so-ever that the API was changed right before launch. The Dev team wanted a chance to see how that info was going to be used and the impact it had on gameplay. It would also be a mistake to assume that it will not be altered in the future based on community preferences.
At this point, personally, I'm still unsure what info addons will be able to provide and what they won't. I have seen claims that short duration buffs will be trackable and some that say the opposite. There are a lot of people worked up over speculation right now.
Nope. Addons make the game easier. Being a better player would be improving your experience without needing to see all the additional information.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Have to agree with many others I have been playing MMO's for a long time and have never liked addons would prefer they totally removed the option to have them at all.
If you really cant play without addons and by the sounds of your OP message this is the case because you seam extremely upset by not having them then your years of gaming seam to have taught you nothing and would suggest you start from basics and learn to play these games again.
In all honestly almost all missed the point the OP tried to made.. and just bashed on the "bad addOn user", although his OP was not about AddOns.
The main issue he pointed out was, that a player have to be able to recognize what cast/action another player does, to either react with a appropriate counter, or to avoid certain penalties.. and he doesn't care if we get those information from casting animations, standard UI(showing your own debuffs), or available AddOns.
And i have to agree to this. And at the same time i am against the AddOn overuse like in games like WoW, where addons even tell you what to do and when to do and everything else.
But that you can see or can tell what a certain player does against you should be absolute basic information, and usually you got the information from other games either from casting animations or debuffs icons and stuff like that. And yes, this is partially a casual vs non casual thing to, because casuals usually don't bother to counter specific threads or synergise with team mates.. because they either know about it, nor care about it. But for a deep tactical experience you need those informations to act accordingly.
You are the perfect example of the Elitist WoW Raider stereotype. ESO is different from other games, this game you have all the information you need through visual cues, if you can't see them because the "animations are bad" you need better glasses. All AoE attacks have a red circle and any attacks that could be interrupted have a long animation or (NPC's only) will have white or red sparkles. This is a game where you must be prepared for anything, instead of having every piece of information so you can prepare beforehand you have to adapt to whats happening right now, you devise a plan and a emergency plan, odds is both will fail and you will have to stop and think again whats going wrong instead of pointing the finger to one player, if you want to play with people that are good you need to make friends and interact, not only look at their gearscore.
Bottom line: learn to play the game how it's intended
Also to the OP: even if english isn't your main language (English is also not my first language) you need to know how to write properly and for the sake of our eyes and minds learn how to use COMMAS
You wrote about the add-ons in this thread: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6248506
No need to create an entirely new topic for a very similar complaint post.
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