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Why do you like/not like guild wars?
TwilighAegis
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in Guild Wars
I want to know. I'm considdering buying this game, because I like the idea of the player's actual abillities being more important to how long the player has been playing. Massive GvG PvP seems pretty cool too. So, please tell me what you like about this game, and what you don't like about it.
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"People say that if you play Microsoft CD's backwards, you hear satanic things, but that's nothing, because if you play them forwards, they install Windows." -Anonymous
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I'll give you reasons why I do NOT like Guild Wars.
First off, everything outside of cities is instanced. Some people enjoy this, but in my opinion, It was a horrible idea. Say you're fighting a mob, and you are getting seriously owned. There's nobody to help you! I believe that the original intention of the devs was to create a spawn-camping-free world, but this was taking it too far, not to mention the level of interaction between players is extremely slim.
Second, the max level is 20 (unless they changed it since I quit).
And third, the community was rather immature... kind of like the Horde on World of Warcraft.
Don't be influenced only by my opinion, because many people like this game very much, but these are some things that just killed the game for me. Enjoy! ~Neytea
I'll give you my opinion on the game.
It's a great game for the money, no subscription fee means you're getting great value for money. You can spend a great deal of time playing this with your first character doing every mission and quest without getting bored, but after you've done everything with that character you'll quickly get bored. I have.
I have nothing to do in the PVE world apart from farm now, and I have no desire to start another character due to the repetitiveness of the gameplay.
PVP is fun, and competing in GVG battles is challenging and fulfilling when you win, but the lack of subscription fee also means that ANET do not update the game with new areas and quests on a regular basis. This results in the game getting boring.
I would seriously put this game forward to you, even just to play one character up to level 20. It's definitely worth the money, and you will not be disappointed. The graphics are brilliant, and the gameplay is excellent until you've done everything over and over again.
Have fun if you decide to play this game. Hope i've helped a bit.
Darren,do you not have a life? I mean who would spend hours or days going through all those quests?
On-Topic:I mainly like this game because of the fact that it's free and that there is a large world to explore.(In my opinion that is)
One of the few things I dislike is the fact that there aren't that many people who seem to name their characters with a serious name.
In-game I refuse to party with anyone who has some name such as "I pwn u" or "Mario Luigi",btw those are just examples. Another thing in the game I dislike is when party members don't listen to you and just go ahead of you and get grouped by a mob of monsters and die because of that.
"The one who begins with nothing, gains everything slowly."
hi there, iam having 5 lv20 chars in gw now and they have all they need...
what I like in this game:
- graphics
- controls
- hud
- sounds
- enemys (various different looking and skills etc)
- henchman
- update system
- events
what i dont like:
- mission based
- districts
- loading time
- too fast through game having all weps, skills, armor...
- lv20 should be more levels and to reach harder
its ok when u enter a special place with ur group, like UW.. but not that mission based stuff... its not a mmorg feeling, just a coop like other coop's.
since i have everything except a mesmer its gettin boring to me, i dont have to do anything anymore.
maybe chapter 2 gets interesting again.
What I really want to know, is this: Is this game really a game where wether you win or lose is based in whole or part on your real life abilities?
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"People say that if you play Microsoft CD's backwards, you hear satanic things, but that's nothing, because if you play them forwards, they install Windows." -Anonymous
yes , defenatly yes , people say its not a mmo , but im sure its is , social part of the game , is what makes it hard ... its not a single player game with online chat , team work , social life is a must in the game , so YES !
and also , 600 skills to learn , study abilitys are needed.
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What I want to know, really, that no one has actually attempted to answer, is is this exerpt true about the game?
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"People say that if you play Microsoft CD's backwards, you hear satanic things, but that's nothing, because if you play them forwards, they install Windows." -Anonymous
I got confused by that. Loading time? Unless your computer is shit, the load time is nearly instant.
And yes, player skill matters a lot more than hours played in this game. In WoW, if you're even two levels above your opponent you can usually own them without a problem. But in this game, stategy and real skills matter the most.
Reasons I Liked This Game
-No Ksing
-I haven't met many immature people. So I don't know what they're crying about.
-It's something new. MMOG's like WoW are the same candy in a different wrapper.
-The founders are employees who have done great things for gaming in their lives. They're not idiots.
-I can walk outside and not see a dozen different people killing the exact same monster I am. People fail to remember that can bring more boredom than immersion. Because I fail to see the fun at watching someone with the same weapon kill the same monster at the same speed I am. So I don't see why so many people whine and cry about instancing.
-I have played a lot of PvP, and have rarely been called a n00b, or a faggot, or anything like that. I won't get ganked by some 1337 speaking 12 year old who thinks he's the hottest thing to come along since the invention of videogames. Want to see the pinnacle of human stupidity, go to a WoW forum. Trust me, if someone put 90% of WoW's fanbase into a room then nuked it, the world would probably be better for it.
-I have met a lot of cool people in this game. Almost everyone I've partied with is on my friends list.
-Streaming updates! Dear God the streaming updates are so fast and simple.
-VERY quick install speed. I got it installed in less then a minute and updated completely in less than two. WoW takes me a good 10-15 minutes to completely install. Kinda sad.
-No monthly fee! A game that looks and plays this good without robbing me of my hard earned money! They even gave the players an expansion size update for free and gave the players the music for that update for free! What are you paying for in WoW? To be called a "gay fag" and for Paladins to get destroyed while they make Shamans more and more powerful?
-Best PvP ever. Period. 'nuff said.
Now let me explain a few things that bug me. People say that a lot of kids that can't afford MMOG's moved into this game because there is no fee. Well, I don't know what fantasy word they're living in but they're mostly full of crap. That's an excuse. I know very damn well that most parents are willing to cough up a measly $15 a month for their kids. Now, I know not all families have money, but look at how many people are members of WoW. And 90% of them are definitely 16 and younger. Does that LOOK like a small percentage to you?
I'm 20 years old and can afford monthly fees, so can others younger and older than me. Most of the time anyway. Nonetheless, I'm one of the people who believe monthly fees are bs. A lot of people think that too. So before the crybabies say "Only kids play GW because they don't have to pay a fee" they really need to stare down the business end of a shotgun and pull the trigger because that excuse is getting a bit old.
And I'm not going to list the bad traits. I'll tell you why. All of the GW haters take some of the smallest things and blow them out of proportion.
You can't jump!
You can't jump in 99% of the MMOG's today. What's your damn point you pathetic WoW fanboy?
The areas are instanced!
Yeah, it's called change. Get used to it, because many newer MMOG's will be taking stuff from this game.
Characters don't move right!
Yeah, the same thing can be said about WoW, Final Fantasy 11, SilkRoad, Star Wars Galaxies etc. Even in the new Dungeons and Dragons Online. So what exactly are you expecting to see here? Come back to me when you have an intelligent response.
There isn't any mounts!
Wow, that's a great loss isn't it? If you find some amusement sitting on a horses back that can't do anything more then get you from point "a to b" then go play WoW. Most of the mounts in that game are utterly useless. And in an instanced game like this, mounts would be meaningless. Think, will you?
You can't swim!
Why would I want to? Oh goody, there's a pretty little pond over there, I'm going to go waste my time by swimming in it, thus providing a distraction that makes the game longer and more boring, and if the game has a fee, then it's just a way to make you waste time to pay more money. This might come as a shock to some of you naive children, but those little distractions ADD UP, that's why they were put there. They aren't there for your amusement, they're there to distract you.
You can't get the mega 1337 sword of ultimate ungodly doom and own all with it!
Yeah, that means the players themselves have to have the gaming aptitude of a monkey. What a shame. It must be so hard to actually have to strategize. If you don't know what strategize means, look it up. Because I doubt most GW haters know what that is.
I think that's it. I wrote this up on the fly and while being tired as hell. The point of this all is that very tiny problems are overblown and stacked upon each other by the GW haters. I've never seen so many crybabies in my entire life whine about the smallest things like the GW haters have for this game. It's saddening to see what these so called "gamers" are reducing themselves to. Oh well, to each his/her own.
*I've had plenty of freedom. I don't know what you're talking about. And Morrowind is a completely different game than GW. Don't be sad and compare the two.
*I've soloed more then half of all the quests and missions in the game with henches. Did you even play?
*Boohoo. You've just complained about the most complained subject of all time. Don't feel too special.
*One race. Big deal. I would like more, but that's not a negative aspect of the game. And there are plenty of classes, plus dual classing and the two new classes being added in the exp.. ~rolls eyes~
*Yeah, funny thing about missions. It might be mission based but all the missions are still fun. Isn't that the point?
God, where do these people come from.
[sarcasm]Yeah. I REALLY miss spending hours looking for minerals so I can create meaningless weapons and sell them for a little gold that doesn't nearly make up for the time lost on actually making the item.[/sarcasm]
What I want to know, really, that no one has actually attempted to answer, is is this exerpt true about the game?
Yes it is true.
If you have a lvl 20 character and you have played 500 hours, and I have a lvl 20 characters and I have played 1000 hours and I have better items than you, I will still lose if you are just a better player than me.
This is what so many of us like about Guild Wars.
Some people don't like this. They don't like to play games that does not have amazing uber gear that will determinate who will win in a fight.
But this is not a typical MMORPG. You will become dissapointed if you view this as an MMORPG. Because people here are right, it is instanced, it does not have crafting. The intent was to create a strategic and skill based RPG were your skill and knowledge and teamwork derminates who wins in a fight, were in other games it's about how much time you have played, how good your items are.
This is why this game appeals to casual gamers. It's set up in a way so you can litterly play for 5-10 minutes and then quit if you want to. It was not made to be played like 5-6 hours a day. ArenaNets philosphy was that nomatter how much content they would implant people would still rush through it.
The reason for lvl 20 only was also that everyone should be able to get it. LvL is just a bunch of number. It's about your skills. What 8 skills you take with you into battle. What combos you are going to make with your teammates.
In this regard the game is unparalled to all other Online RPGs and MMORPGs.
However, currently this game does not feature large scale PvP. 8 Vs 8 on a battlefield is the current maxmimum size. It will be raised in the next expansion through "alliances" that guilds can form to fight a larger objective - But some people just want 100 vs 100 fights even if it take away the strategic element, creates massive lag and confusion like in DAOC.
Other people prefere an 100% open PvP system like in the old days in UO.
GW is set up in such a way that no one gets un-honorable kills. This is one of the reasons for instances. There is not Rogues that come and kill you off when you have 10% health back while you are doing a quest. There is not zerging or spawn camping in GW either. There is not unbalance fights in PvP. The game has been set up to be fair.
Some feel that the game is restricted because of this. I will on a part agree with it, but a larger and more important part of me, gets a much bigger satisfaction of beating people in PvP, when I know it was a truly fair fight. In GW I don't have to feel like a loser because my enemy has played less than me. I can feel proud that I beat him because it was truly a fair fight. And I can be in awe when I see a team or a guild or even a PUG who do a strategy I have never seen before and completely takes us by surprise.
If you truly desire to play a game that takes skills, and tactics and thinking and planning and teamwork - Then Guild Wars is a game you won't go wrong with. However mate - This is not a free World of Warcraft or a free MMORPG in generel. Don't peasure it on this mate. You will be dissapointed.
What pingo said is true. Also,the fair fighting in pvp is satisfaction,but to me getting across the Shiverpeak Mountains(or getting to them)will be satisfaction in itself.
"The one who begins with nothing, gains everything slowly."
Well said Pingo. Great game. Not the greates ever, but a great value for sure.
Does anyone else see the irony in Aydrian calling others "fanbois"?
1)replay value 2)graphics 3)sorty line 4) pvp 5) all around fun...I love everything about Guild Wars.
Its also a really good game to go to ....if you get bored of the MMO game your playing with.
free is not a factor. Super mario is free, sonic is free. go play them. as long as I enjoy the game, I don't mind paying subscription.
Which FF Character Are You?
I love guildwars, because it is beautiful it simply is stunning to run around and go 'Wooo' at for most of pre-searing.
The fact that everyone can have a different build for their character is probably what attracts me to the game play, as you have so many skills to pick from and leaves you to prepare well for different situations and positions within the group.
If you can get a good group it's a great game.
Captain to you.
I think that the game is too short, and that after ascension and lvl20, there is nothing else to do apart from farm.
also, the instanced map annoys me; unlike games such as WoW, there is less interaction between players, and this creates a less cohesive game.
Finally, if they implemented a dungeon system like diablo, where it is randommly created, then the missions would have some replay value.
however, the no-subscription aspect of the game is superb. for example, when you have got bored, and left to play another MMO, you do not have to pay any subscritption for the down time, and you can come back and play again at will.
The weekly updates are also good, as GW is constantly evolving.
I don't like GW because of the low lvl cap, and the fact that you can only see yourself and groupmembers outside city, like it is only-instanced.. also too much quests, too hard grinding
Aydrian I bet you quit WoW at L47 due to lack of attention span because you couldn't seem to make money at the auction house, couldn't seem to find a guild and most of all just sucked at the game.
So now you feel the need to whine about it instead of just talking about GW.
I love all the generalizations about WoW out there ... It's soooo funny listening to ignorant bitches bitch.
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Played - UO, FFXI, WAR, WoW, EVE
Currently - Bored.
These are the things that i like/dislike about guildwars
Likes
-Graphics, Monsters, Computer AI is ok, get ur own maps, no montly fee but i'd be willing to buy all expansions even if it is 2 a year if they are really able 2 pull it off which i doubth but hey who knows, skills/weapons, and the way you dont have 2 buy original version of guildwars 2 play expansion or vise versa even though im plannin on buyin it
Dislikes
-districts if every1 could be in the same district then i could probally sale faster but then again it would probally suck for people wit a crappy connection so i guess that makes it good for them, the low level cap, and if they raise it on expansion everything that's worth so much gold would probally get kinda useless cuz then they'll need lvl 20+ equips but maybe they can figure something out to raise level cap with out killing the value of all the godly items now, but the thing i probally hate the most is the no vending skills i would like a class that could vend/sale items or at least a skill would be nice that way you dont have 2 be in town spam'n when you trying to sale just vend and go afk if you need to
Like you said the GvG is awesome, though to me it became a little bit... monotone.
Though I still enjoy it, but no fear because they'll always bring expansion, whom IMO is great, keeps the story alive (like in EQ, though in EQ they were also paying per month and that was a dissapointment)
I also like the world, which evolves after you finish missions. The missions, they are variated,so it stays fun everytime you play another mission.
I also love the fact that a level 20 still can be defeated by some level 12 mobs, well so in my mind it seems.
I don't like the restriction on your level, but that what I mentioned above I like.
I don't like that there is no Roleplay, I've got into a guild that does RP, but the people don't really log on much...
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