Originally posted by Salahudin Considering its 7am here, even if i could play i wouldn`t, i was asleep.. regardless, even if the maintenance continued all day today I still wouldn`t be bothered. There`s plenty of other things to do
Yes there ae plenty of other things to do but:
those people who (may) have paid extra for the head start are people who are fired up and, by and large, want to play NOW; they (should have) expected bugs and were prepared to put up with them but not being able to play at all ....
The people who decided to do "plenty of other things" are the ones who decided that Zenimax needed more time.
Originally posted by goldnuggetsDONT buy this game right now. wait a month or two. they have launched their game with bugs that have been reported for months. it is essentially still in beta. there is little to no customer service, no updates on tickets. characters suddenly dismounting from their horses, people completely unable to log in, people falling through maps, numerous bugged quests, large amounts of diconnects/lag, launcher issues, people's bank contents completely disappearing, missing preorder items, ect. theres also very little endgame content, and a generally generic, sub elder scrolls experience. a few people even reported suddenly being in control of someone elses character and invetory upon login. some people who report gold spammers are being banned for 72 hours. gold spammers are everywhere, they control the chat. compare the state of this game to the wildstar beta... i would say wildstar should be launching and this game should have 4 more months of beta.take a look at their customer service forums http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/categories/EN-customer-support
you know you can be suited for that? That´s damage of credit and there are some leading cases going up to the supreme court also in Europe going the European court of justice. Concerning this is a forum where many people are reading you do have a big audience listening. So companies will claim damages and they did that. Trolling is something you can do, but find a line!
@ moderator: please /close. i mean it´s obvious
Joined on 28/02/2014 and most if not all posts in TESO forums. I wonder why you care so much about defending zenimax reputation ?
Originally posted by Salahudin Considering its 7am here, even if i could play i wouldn`t, i was asleep.. regardless, even if the maintenance continued all day today I still wouldn`t be bothered. There`s plenty of other things to do
Yes there ae plenty of other things to do but:
those people who (may) have paid extra for the head start are people who are fired up and, by and large, want to play NOW; they (should have) expected bugs and were prepared to put up with them but not being able to play at all ....
The people who decided to do "plenty of other things" are the ones who decided that Zenimax needed more time.
If you purchase your product, promised that you will be able to play in a certain date and by company's fault you can't, isn't supposed to get some sort of payback? I don't mean the money you gave to buy the product, lets say you want to keep it anyway and play some time later, but some sort of guaranty because they didn't fulfill what they promised? And maybe you bought that product because of that promise?
The original poster is a bit off base, this game is actually very polished. Yes there are some bugs here and there, as with every fully launched game to include Skyrim (crazy right?). I worst bug I have experienced is a random error that logs me off. There have been a lot of bugs that have been corrected since early beta that were reported and fixed. I imagine Zenimax will get these fixed by the first major hot-fix/patch.
DONT buy this game right now. wait a month or two. they have launched their game with bugs that have been reported for months. it is essentially still in beta. there is little to no customer service, no updates on tickets. characters suddenly dismounting from their horses, people completely unable to log in, people falling through maps, numerous bugged quests, large amounts of diconnects/lag, launcher issues, people's bank contents completely disappearing, missing preorder items, ect. theres also very little endgame content, and a generally generic, sub elder scrolls experience. a few people even reported suddenly being in control of someone elses character and invetory upon login. some people who report gold spammers are being banned for 72 hours. gold spammers are everywhere, they control the chat. compare the state of this game to the wildstar beta... i would say wildstar should be launching and this game should have 4 more months of beta.
Why wait one month or two, when I can wait 6 and play it for free? As a plus, the game might be actually playable by then.
My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.
I really don't know, just asking a question.If you purchase your product, promised that you will be able to play in a certain date and by company's fault you can't, isn't supposed to get some sort of payback? I don't mean the money you gave to buy the product, lets say you want to keep it anyway and play some time later, but some sort of guaranty because they didn't fulfill what they promised? And maybe you bought that product because of that promise?I really don't know, i m just curious.
all online-services cover their asses with the TOS. They have to repay 0 according to the terms you agreed to. Free days or other shit is merely an attempt of the company trying to retain angry customers.
Originally posted by goldnuggetsDONT buy this game right now. wait a month or two. they have launched their game with bugs that have been reported for months. it is essentially still in beta. there is little to no customer service, no updates on tickets. characters suddenly dismounting from their horses, people completely unable to log in, people falling through maps, numerous bugged quests, large amounts of diconnects/lag, launcher issues, people's bank contents completely disappearing, missing preorder items, ect. theres also very little endgame content, and a generally generic, sub elder scrolls experience. a few people even reported suddenly being in control of someone elses character and invetory upon login. some people who report gold spammers are being banned for 72 hours. gold spammers are everywhere, they control the chat. compare the state of this game to the wildstar beta... i would say wildstar should be launching and this game should have 4 more months of beta.take a look at their customer service forums http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/categories/EN-customer-support
you know you can be suited for that? That´s damage of credit and there are some leading cases going up to the supreme court also in Europe going the European court of justice. Concerning this is a forum where many people are reading you do have a big audience listening. So companies will claim damages and they did that. Trolling is something you can do, but find a line!
@ moderator: please /close. i mean it´s obvious
Joined on 28/02/2014 and most if not all posts in TESO forums. I wonder why you care so much about defending zenimax reputation ?
because i´m sick of people who are not able of having a constructive discussion.
1. he didn´t even played the game.
2. he compared it with a whole different game which we do not now how it will start of
3. he describes issues 99.9% of this games have because of their
4. he takes ridiculous premisses for his conclusions (the amount of postings @ costumer site, i mean really? if it´s just 1 million people are playing the game this seems few problems. Also many sites on customer site do not only correlate with the mount of issues but also with the amount of players who play the game.
5. very little endgame content - has he seen it?
6. generic - has he played it?
7. gold spammers control the chat - has he played it? yeah there are gold spammers, but they neither control the chat nor will get banned for reporting them, did it 5 times now.
There are issues with the game and there are plenty of them. But i´d like to discuss this with people who actually care about the game or at least intend to play it. If you not interested in the game then where is the point of complaining about it. And here is my answer, i´m interested in the game and so i post on the forums. I want it to be great and want to discuss with other people. But not with people that i mentioned above.
Since everyone who likes it is a fanboy, i´d rather be a fanboy and have fun with the game, which i do, then post frustrated and desperate on forums of games i dont care about, waste my precious life time just because they didn´t find in ESO the game they want. I also don´t mind if it goes to F2P or that some things people think are scams, welcome to the capitalism. If you want to change something, go on the street and try to change the system. Trolling in forums doesn´t change anything and does not make ESO the game you want, so it´s waste of time.
And as for my prior post, it´s actually true, some chapters of my dissertation are about damage of credit in US/Europe corporate law.
With a solid pc this game is hands down the most beatifull mmo i have ever played. Doing pvp with 30+ fps with 3 factions duking it out with all that stuff going on is quite impressive.
Had a few bugs, YES A BUG OMFG NEVER HAPPAED IN MMO'S !!!!! HALP GAMEZ ZUCKS WANT MONEH BACK NOAW !!!!
Seriously tough ESO gets a 9/10 from me. Troll more or go back to your own mmo if you have one lol o/
Im playing the game(not right now because the servers are down) and I have seen or experienced most of these problems myself.
Some problems arent as bad or prevalent as others but they are still there.
The ESO fans sticking their fingers their ears and going "la la la cant hear you, la la la perfect launch" is pretty much expected.
The "Honeymoon" period for an MMO is always the most entertaining, brings out the worst in both extremes and it is a spectacle that has been repeated with every MMO launch ever.
The game obviously needed at least one more month of beta and some serious load open beta load stressing not just the weekend BS that always broke the server.
If you are gonna play the mega server game with ZERO mmo experience to back you up, then you need to take the time and resources to work out the real load issues.
If you purchase your product, promised that you will be able to play in a certain date and by company's fault you can't, isn't supposed to get some sort of payback? I don't mean the money you gave to buy the product, lets say you want to keep it anyway and play some time later, but some sort of guaranty because they didn't fulfill what they promised? And maybe you bought that product because of that promise?
I really don't know, i m just curious.
yes! you can ask you retailer for price reduction in the amount of some % of the full game price. If the only thing why you bought it was the early access you can have a full refund, but you have to prove that.
I do recall some game a couple years back that gave us extra days on our subscription for the days we were locked out of. That is normal to refund time so do not worry so much.
Joined on 28/02/2014 and most if not all posts in TESO forums. I wonder why you care so much about defending zenimax reputation ?
because i´m sick of people who are not able of having a constructive discussion.
1. he didn´t even played the game.
...
....has he seen it?
... has he played it?..
7. gold spammers control the chat - has he played it?
...
That wall of text with little content.
tldr: lets accuse op of not having played the game
Btw i fully expect wildstar to have a better launch -simply cause they are seasoned mmorpg devs and not a singleplayer studio going mmorpg without any prior experience.
If you purchase your product, promised that you will be able to play in a certain date and by company's fault you can't, isn't supposed to get some sort of payback? I don't mean the money you gave to buy the product, lets say you want to keep it anyway and play some time later, but some sort of guaranty because they didn't fulfill what they promised? And maybe you bought that product because of that promise?
I really don't know, i m just curious.
all online-services cover their asses with the TOS. They have to repay 0 according to the terms you agreed to. Free days or other shit is merely an attempt of the company trying to retain angry customers.
You can wipe your a** with TOS because TOS cannot go against the law.
And there IS regulation about services and compensation IF the criteria the law prescribes are met.
Originally posted by kabitoshin I can't wait to see the threads that wildstars launch will bring us.
You'll see lots and lots of complains about the game crap performance and how "dull" it is (me and my friends conclusion after playing in the closed beta). Lower levels were quite polished though.
Originally posted by goldnuggetsDONT buy this game right now. wait a month or two. they have launched their game with bugs that have been reported for months. it is essentially still in beta. there is little to no customer service, no updates on tickets. characters suddenly dismounting from their horses, people completely unable to log in, people falling through maps, numerous bugged quests, large amounts of diconnects/lag, launcher issues, people's bank contents completely disappearing, missing preorder items, ect. theres also very little endgame content, and a generally generic, sub elder scrolls experience. a few people even reported suddenly being in control of someone elses character and invetory upon login. some people who report gold spammers are being banned for 72 hours. gold spammers are everywhere, they control the chat. compare the state of this game to the wildstar beta... i would say wildstar should be launching and this game should have 4 more months of beta.take a look at their customer service forums http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/categories/EN-customer-support
you know you can be suited for that? That´s damage of credit and there are some leading cases going up to the supreme court also in Europe going the European court of justice. Concerning this is a forum where many people are reading you do have a big audience listening. So companies will claim damages and they did that. Trolling is something you can do, but find a line!
@ moderator: please /close. i mean it´s obvious
Joined on 28/02/2014 and most if not all posts in TESO forums. I wonder why you care so much about defending zenimax reputation ?
because i´m sick of people who are not able of having a constructive discussion.
1. he didn´t even played the game.
2. he compared it with a whole different game which we do not now how it will start of
3. he describes issues 99.9% of this games have because of their
4. he takes ridiculous premisses for his conclusions (the amount of postings @ costumer site, i mean really? if it´s just 1 million people are playing the game this seems few problems. Also many sites on customer site do not only correlate with the mount of issues but also with the amount of players who play the game.
5. very little endgame content - has he seen it?
6. generic - has he played it?
7. gold spammers control the chat - has he played it? yeah there are gold spammers, but they neither control the chat nor will get banned for reporting them, did it 5 times now.
There are issues with the game and there are plenty of them. But i´d like to discuss this with people who actually care about the game or at least intend to play it. If you not interested in the game then where is the point of complaining about it. And here is my answer, i´m interested in the game and so i post on the forums. I want it to be great and want to discuss with other people. But not with people that i mentioned above.
Since everyone who likes it is a fanboy, i´d rather be a fanboy and have fun with the game, which i do, then post frustrated and desperate on forums of games i dont care about, waste my precious life time just because they didn´t find in ESO the game they want. I also don´t mind if it goes to F2P or that some things people think are scams, welcome to the capitalism. If you want to change something, go on the street and try to change the system. Trolling in forums doesn´t change anything and does not make ESO the game you want, so it´s waste of time.
And as for my prior post, it´s actually true, some chapters of my dissertation are about damage of credit in US/Europe corporate law.
1. i have played the game. i loved the beta, and i could access it for 2 days of headstart before a serious account issue
2. yes i compare it to another product in the same field. this is like comparing coke with pepsi, if pepsi gave you cancer
3. i've never seen a game that allows people to access other peoples entire accounts through an exploit
4. i guarentee 100% of players have been unable to access the game for atleast 6 hours. you think this is a small percentage? a lot of people cannot even access the official forums even if they want to
5. seen it? yes, through the eso website detailing their endgame features
6. yes
7. gold spammers constantly pam the chat, making communication almost impossible.
If you purchase your product, promised that you will be able to play in a certain date and by company's fault you can't, isn't supposed to get some sort of payback? I don't mean the money you gave to buy the product, lets say you want to keep it anyway and play some time later, but some sort of guaranty because they didn't fulfill what they promised? And maybe you bought that product because of that promise?
I really don't know, i m just curious.
all online-services cover their asses with the TOS. They have to repay 0 according to the terms you agreed to. Free days or other shit is merely an attempt of the company trying to retain angry customers.
You can wipe your a** with TOS because TOS cannot go against the law.
And there IS regulation about services and compensation IF the criteria the law prescribes are met.
Im well aware of that and took benefit of it but that hinges on being in the right country. Pretty sure a decent number of people here wont have their ass covered by their countrys law.
ESO right now has tons of minor issues, that, while are not game breaking, give the impression of an unpolished rushed game. The OP is right that the game in the current state definitely needed a few months of polish. Current issues for me are:
Big random lag spikes, mainly noticeable when doing group content
Horse random dismounting (it's a minor thing though)
Major plot lines broken on certain instances require people to chain relog until they find an unbugged instance.
Grouping is broken, with group members constantly ending up in different instances of towns and open dungeons.
Resource nods disappearing when trying to collect.
Main map rift events not working.
Those are things that more time to polish would probably have fixed. There are other things that are not in the game and will hurt the longevity. For example, a total lack of a mentor system aka some means to keep the low level content relevant and the ability to play with your lower level friends.
Lastly, one issue that tons of people are experiencing (and is probably the reason the mail system is down for a day now) is the way they handled pre-order and deluxe items, which they gave to only the first character you made. If you made the mistake to delete the character with those items, everything is gone. Funnily enough, this non industry standard approach to distributing those perks was originally only buried into their customer support system, leading to an enormous amount of people deleting them.
I have not yet regretted the purchase. I believe the ESO atmosphere is captured by the game and all the minor annoyances, while numerous, haven't made me reach my tolerance threshold just yet. Still, it is pretty obvious to any reasonable person (not fanboys), that the game was not ready for release.
ALWAYS love reading responses from fanboys in these threads. SO what if Wildstar launch sucks? So what if (insert name here) launch sucked? This comparing bad launches to bad launches is really a dumb and stupid argument yet it is done over and over and over again? The people that are playing ESO ONLY care about ESO and how it launches. Anecdotal experiences not withstanding there are a lot of issues with this game. Even the guys wo claim its the smoothest launch ever are seeing bugs.
BUT, and here is the BIG bit.. the game had been up for 3 days or so and what happens? Complete meltdown and they have to bring the server down for unscheduled and unannounced maintenance. Sounds just like their betas where the game would run 'perfectly' for a short period of time but bugs and issues and problems would start adding up and compounding on each other until it was a complete system failure.
How long has the server been down for since yesterday?
The first few days had a lot of people probably more than half the players who are interested got in Friday. But a few people did get in on the 3 day early access and even though some people were spread out those newer people obviously were enough to push a system that was already failing over the edge. I am sure thats why the game had those early access buffers. Now (Like I said weeks ago) the game will from now until hard release be down more than it is up because they have to get ready for the hard release which is for the 'general public' and not the people who live and die on every MMO release out there. Generally those people arent that huge of a player base, but mostly because word of mouth on a game kills it. but a few random people might be walking around Wal mart or target or whatever retailer this game will be at and see an Elder Scrolls game on the shelf and try it. So while those people might be a minority, they are also the ones ZoS (and other companies) need to be a long term subscription based MMO.
Either way its always fun to see Kevin Bacon splattered all over the side walk after he has been trampled proclaiming 'all is well'. Even though there are 40 pages and counting (across the 3 languages the forums have) of complaints in the customer service section alone.
The game is exactly what it was a couple months ago and is exactly how it is going to be a couple months (more) from now. while there are some legit bugs most are based on the core of the game which is the server, and that is something that isnt easy to fix. Because they arent really 'bugs' but a by product of something that obviously doesnt work and obviously ZoS doesnt know how to fix.
Originally posted by goldnuggetsDONT buy this game right now. wait a month or two. they have launched their game with bugs that have been reported for months. it is essentially still in beta. there is little to no customer service, no updates on tickets. characters suddenly dismounting from their horses, people completely unable to log in, people falling through maps, numerous bugged quests, large amounts of diconnects/lag, launcher issues, people's bank contents completely disappearing, missing preorder items, ect. theres also very little endgame content, and a generally generic, sub elder scrolls experience. a few people even reported suddenly being in control of someone elses character and invetory upon login. some people who report gold spammers are being banned for 72 hours. gold spammers are everywhere, they control the chat. compare the state of this game to the wildstar beta... i would say wildstar should be launching and this game should have 4 more months of beta.take a look at their customer service forums http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/categories/EN-customer-support
you know you can be suited for that? That´s damage of credit and there are some leading cases going up to the supreme court also in Europe going the European court of justice. Concerning this is a forum where many people are reading you do have a big audience listening. So companies will claim damages and they did that. Trolling is something you can do, but find a line!
@ moderator: please /close. i mean it´s obvious
Joined on 28/02/2014 and most if not all posts in TESO forums. I wonder why you care so much about defending zenimax reputation ?
because i´m sick of people who are not able of having a constructive discussion.
1. he didn´t even played the game.
2. he compared it with a whole different game which we do not now how it will start of
3. he describes issues 99.9% of this games have because of their
4. he takes ridiculous premisses for his conclusions (the amount of postings @ costumer site, i mean really? if it´s just 1 million people are playing the game this seems few problems. Also many sites on customer site do not only correlate with the mount of issues but also with the amount of players who play the game.
5. very little endgame content - has he seen it?
6. generic - has he played it?
7. gold spammers control the chat - has he played it? yeah there are gold spammers, but they neither control the chat nor will get banned for reporting them, did it 5 times now.
There are issues with the game and there are plenty of them. But i´d like to discuss this with people who actually care about the game or at least intend to play it. If you not interested in the game then where is the point of complaining about it. And here is my answer, i´m interested in the game and so i post on the forums. I want it to be great and want to discuss with other people. But not with people that i mentioned above.
Since everyone who likes it is a fanboy, i´d rather be a fanboy and have fun with the game, which i do, then post frustrated and desperate on forums of games i dont care about, waste my precious life time just because they didn´t find in ESO the game they want. I also don´t mind if it goes to F2P or that some things people think are scams, welcome to the capitalism. If you want to change something, go on the street and try to change the system. Trolling in forums doesn´t change anything and does not make ESO the game you want, so it´s waste of time.
And as for my prior post, it´s actually true, some chapters of my dissertation are about damage of credit in US/Europe corporate law.
1. i have played the game. i loved the beta, and i could access it for 2 days of headstart before a serious account issue
2. yes i compare it to another product in the same field. this is like comparing coke with pepsi, if pepsi gave you cancer
3. i've never seen a game that allows people to access other peoples entire accounts through an exploit
4. i guarentee 100% of players have been unable to access the game for atleast 6 hours. you think this is a small percentage? a lot of people cannot even access the official forums even if they want to
5. seen it? yes, through the eso website detailing their endgame features
6. yes
7. gold spammers constantly pam the chat, making communication almost impossible.
1. Don't know, don't care.
2. Your <insert game here> sux.
3. Are you new to MMO's? Seriously?
4. Game is down for maintenance. WoW's launch did the same, as well as MANY others. Point?
5. If you've seen it, then you know that there are dungeons, raids, PvP, etc. etc. Same old themepark MMO stuff to do.
6. Don't care.
7. Gold spammers constantly spam almost ALL MMOs. Do you remember when they'd bring their lvl 1's to Orgrimar and organize them to spell out the website to go to....IN THE AIR?
8. Adding my own. You make me smile, kid. I call you kid because that's the way I see you based on how you present yourself.
I havent experienced any of these serious game ending bugs people keep pissing and moaning about. No one in my guild either. However, no one has the ability to prove anything anyone says on these forums is true so I could just be making all this up.
Originally posted by goldnuggets can i ask why you're defending a company that fails to deliver on it's promises?
Probably because no MMO in the history of mankind has delivered on it's promises at launch.
For all the bugs in the game, meh, it's Elder Scrolls. If you've never played an Elder Scrolls game you wouldn't understand. Bugs are actually a standard of their gameplay. Shoot, I remember in ES:Morrowind, I played the game for 120 hours and then while off adventuring, I found some cool item in this temple. I took it and went back to town and sold it for some crazy cash! I came to find later on that it was a main quest item. Boom! Game Over! cya 120 hours, gg no re. THAT is a game breaking issue. Dismounting is not a game breaker.
Account related issues are quite serious, but also carry serious legal implications, so you can be certain if there was an issue which caused your personal info to be exposed to someone else, it would be taken down. My personal opinion is that it was probably a temporary database issue with the 3-day headstarters coming online and I'm assuming it's already been fixed.
Not defending them, but the game itself is good. Maybe your expectations are too high. I've never seen a game launch where Day 1 was flawless.
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Yes there ae plenty of other things to do but:
those people who (may) have paid extra for the head start are people who are fired up and, by and large, want to play NOW; they (should have) expected bugs and were prepared to put up with them but not being able to play at all ....
The people who decided to do "plenty of other things" are the ones who decided that Zenimax needed more time.
TROLL POST !!
Game runs great, so far I have found no bugs (and Im a pro coder).
ESO is rightnow the best MMO out there.
I`m curious, how much extra did we pay?
I really don't know, just asking a question.
If you purchase your product, promised that you will be able to play in a certain date and by company's fault you can't, isn't supposed to get some sort of payback? I don't mean the money you gave to buy the product, lets say you want to keep it anyway and play some time later, but some sort of guaranty because they didn't fulfill what they promised? And maybe you bought that product because of that promise?
I really don't know, i m just curious.
Why wait one month or two, when I can wait 6 and play it for free? As a plus, the game might be actually playable by then.
My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.
Pi*1337/100 = 42
because i´m sick of people who are not able of having a constructive discussion.
1. he didn´t even played the game.
2. he compared it with a whole different game which we do not now how it will start of
3. he describes issues 99.9% of this games have because of their
4. he takes ridiculous premisses for his conclusions (the amount of postings @ costumer site, i mean really? if it´s just 1 million people are playing the game this seems few problems. Also many sites on customer site do not only correlate with the mount of issues but also with the amount of players who play the game.
5. very little endgame content - has he seen it?
6. generic - has he played it?
7. gold spammers control the chat - has he played it? yeah there are gold spammers, but they neither control the chat nor will get banned for reporting them, did it 5 times now.
There are issues with the game and there are plenty of them. But i´d like to discuss this with people who actually care about the game or at least intend to play it. If you not interested in the game then where is the point of complaining about it. And here is my answer, i´m interested in the game and so i post on the forums. I want it to be great and want to discuss with other people. But not with people that i mentioned above.
Since everyone who likes it is a fanboy, i´d rather be a fanboy and have fun with the game, which i do, then post frustrated and desperate on forums of games i dont care about, waste my precious life time just because they didn´t find in ESO the game they want. I also don´t mind if it goes to F2P or that some things people think are scams, welcome to the capitalism. If you want to change something, go on the street and try to change the system. Trolling in forums doesn´t change anything and does not make ESO the game you want, so it´s waste of time.
And as for my prior post, it´s actually true, some chapters of my dissertation are about damage of credit in US/Europe corporate law.
http://www.northlanders.rocks
1st German Crowfall Guild
With a solid pc this game is hands down the most beatifull mmo i have ever played.
Doing pvp with 30+ fps with 3 factions duking it out with all that stuff going on is quite impressive.
Had a few bugs, YES A BUG OMFG NEVER HAPPAED IN MMO'S !!!!! HALP GAMEZ ZUCKS WANT MONEH BACK NOAW !!!!
Seriously tough ESO gets a 9/10 from me.
Troll more or go back to your own mmo if you have one lol o/
Im playing the game(not right now because the servers are down) and I have seen or experienced most of these problems myself.
Some problems arent as bad or prevalent as others but they are still there.
The ESO fans sticking their fingers their ears and going "la la la cant hear you, la la la perfect launch" is pretty much expected.
The "Honeymoon" period for an MMO is always the most entertaining, brings out the worst in both extremes and it is a spectacle that has been repeated with every MMO launch ever.
Have to say Im kinda with the OP on this one .
The game obviously needed at least one more month of beta and some serious load open beta load stressing not just the weekend BS that always broke the server.
If you are gonna play the mega server game with ZERO mmo experience to back you up, then you need to take the time and resources to work out the real load issues.
yes! you can ask you retailer for price reduction in the amount of some % of the full game price. If the only thing why you bought it was the early access you can have a full refund, but you have to prove that.
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I do recall some game a couple years back that gave us extra days on our subscription for the days we were locked out of. That is normal to refund time so do not worry so much.
That wall of text with little content.
tldr: lets accuse op of not having played the game
Btw i fully expect wildstar to have a better launch -simply cause they are seasoned mmorpg devs and not a singleplayer studio going mmorpg without any prior experience.
Pi*1337/100 = 42
You can wipe your a** with TOS because TOS cannot go against the law.
And there IS regulation about services and compensation IF the criteria the law prescribes are met.
You'll see lots and lots of complains about the game crap performance and how "dull" it is (me and my friends conclusion after playing in the closed beta). Lower levels were quite polished though.
1. i have played the game. i loved the beta, and i could access it for 2 days of headstart before a serious account issue
2. yes i compare it to another product in the same field. this is like comparing coke with pepsi, if pepsi gave you cancer
3. i've never seen a game that allows people to access other peoples entire accounts through an exploit
4. i guarentee 100% of players have been unable to access the game for atleast 6 hours. you think this is a small percentage? a lot of people cannot even access the official forums even if they want to
5. seen it? yes, through the eso website detailing their endgame features
6. yes
7. gold spammers constantly pam the chat, making communication almost impossible.
Im well aware of that and took benefit of it but that hinges on being in the right country. Pretty sure a decent number of people here wont have their ass covered by their countrys law.
Pi*1337/100 = 42
Fanboying the issues never helped any game, ever.
ESO right now has tons of minor issues, that, while are not game breaking, give the impression of an unpolished rushed game. The OP is right that the game in the current state definitely needed a few months of polish. Current issues for me are:
ALWAYS love reading responses from fanboys in these threads. SO what if Wildstar launch sucks? So what if (insert name here) launch sucked? This comparing bad launches to bad launches is really a dumb and stupid argument yet it is done over and over and over again? The people that are playing ESO ONLY care about ESO and how it launches. Anecdotal experiences not withstanding there are a lot of issues with this game. Even the guys wo claim its the smoothest launch ever are seeing bugs.
BUT, and here is the BIG bit.. the game had been up for 3 days or so and what happens? Complete meltdown and they have to bring the server down for unscheduled and unannounced maintenance. Sounds just like their betas where the game would run 'perfectly' for a short period of time but bugs and issues and problems would start adding up and compounding on each other until it was a complete system failure.
How long has the server been down for since yesterday?
The first few days had a lot of people probably more than half the players who are interested got in Friday. But a few people did get in on the 3 day early access and even though some people were spread out those newer people obviously were enough to push a system that was already failing over the edge. I am sure thats why the game had those early access buffers. Now (Like I said weeks ago) the game will from now until hard release be down more than it is up because they have to get ready for the hard release which is for the 'general public' and not the people who live and die on every MMO release out there. Generally those people arent that huge of a player base, but mostly because word of mouth on a game kills it. but a few random people might be walking around Wal mart or target or whatever retailer this game will be at and see an Elder Scrolls game on the shelf and try it. So while those people might be a minority, they are also the ones ZoS (and other companies) need to be a long term subscription based MMO.
Either way its always fun to see Kevin Bacon splattered all over the side walk after he has been trampled proclaiming 'all is well'. Even though there are 40 pages and counting (across the 3 languages the forums have) of complaints in the customer service section alone.
The game is exactly what it was a couple months ago and is exactly how it is going to be a couple months (more) from now. while there are some legit bugs most are based on the core of the game which is the server, and that is something that isnt easy to fix. Because they arent really 'bugs' but a by product of something that obviously doesnt work and obviously ZoS doesnt know how to fix.
1. Don't know, don't care.
2. Your <insert game here> sux.
3. Are you new to MMO's? Seriously?
4. Game is down for maintenance. WoW's launch did the same, as well as MANY others. Point?
5. If you've seen it, then you know that there are dungeons, raids, PvP, etc. etc. Same old themepark MMO stuff to do.
6. Don't care.
7. Gold spammers constantly spam almost ALL MMOs. Do you remember when they'd bring their lvl 1's to Orgrimar and organize them to spell out the website to go to....IN THE AIR?
8. Adding my own. You make me smile, kid. I call you kid because that's the way I see you based on how you present yourself.
Probably because no MMO in the history of mankind has delivered on it's promises at launch.
For all the bugs in the game, meh, it's Elder Scrolls. If you've never played an Elder Scrolls game you wouldn't understand. Bugs are actually a standard of their gameplay. Shoot, I remember in ES:Morrowind, I played the game for 120 hours and then while off adventuring, I found some cool item in this temple. I took it and went back to town and sold it for some crazy cash! I came to find later on that it was a main quest item. Boom! Game Over! cya 120 hours, gg no re. THAT is a game breaking issue. Dismounting is not a game breaker.
Account related issues are quite serious, but also carry serious legal implications, so you can be certain if there was an issue which caused your personal info to be exposed to someone else, it would be taken down. My personal opinion is that it was probably a temporary database issue with the 3-day headstarters coming online and I'm assuming it's already been fixed.
Not defending them, but the game itself is good. Maybe your expectations are too high. I've never seen a game launch where Day 1 was flawless.
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