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So if 154K people
rodarin
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Read the patch notes in English (dont have to be a sub to read them)
How many players does the game actually have?
Even if only 10% of the people who have any interest at all in the game bothered to look at the patch notes thats less than 1.5 Million extrapolated out. Obviously doesnt relate tot he number of buyers or potential buyers of the game but the number of views that thread has is pretty small considering the hype and numbers people have thrown out about this game.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/categories/patch-notes
Here I will throw it a bone to see if it will add a dozen or so more views.
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Very few people are visiting the "new" forum apparently, as many of them don't like the forum layout and especially don't like the fact there is no specific forum for General Discussion.
The "temporary" Beta Forum which closed down at launch saw a LOT of traffic. I would think less than 1% of players go to the "new" forum and even less would bother with the patch notes - they're the ones who always talk in-game and ask what was in the patch.
People read patch notes?
Not me, and I think I might have a an account over there, but can't say I've visited it more than once.
Not sure you can predict much from that figure, other than if 154K people were online at the same time it would be a crap ton of players to interact with at any given moment.
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you're kidding yourself if you think this game has more than 400k players, and thats being very generous.
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They secretly love the game, but it's cool to bash everything and everyone these days.
If I were to base things upon the FFXIV official forums, only 10% of the total accounts registered actually have a forum account while maybe 5-10% of that number actually post on them on a regular basis.
Forums are not an accurate representation of how many people are playing the game.
Since neither of us really know, you'll forgive me for disagreeing heavily
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I'd like to add you do not need a forum account to VIEW a post. So your comment is kinda moot compared to what the OP was saying.
I'm not saying i advocate the ability to guesstimate the amount of players a game may or may not have by their forum numbers or anything either. Just saying.
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You may want to believe you don't know, but we all know. The first thing a company that releases a game that got good numbers will want to do is release this info in some shape or form. They had the perfect opportunity to do so with their numbers collage. They did not do so because their numbers are so underwhelming its probably laughable compared to how many they were thinking they could snare from the previous TES glory.
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The industry (game developers and producers) use number of unique site visit per month to estimate the number of players a game has. They are usually watching other games. This number is easily available. The forum post will not tell you the full size of the game or the size of the problem, because that number doesn’t exclude multiple visits by the same individual. But it does say that this is a big problem.
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As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
I really have no opinion about this game, due to my utter lack of hands on experience with it. But seriously, why do some people obsess over trying to find some remote shred of evidence that it's failing?
This is certainly not new territory; every game that launches seems to have some group of forum members that scour the interwebs for some form of evidence that it's not successful. But why? What's the point? What can that possibly do to enrich their lives?
Complain about some aspect(or all) of the game that you don't like? Fair enough. Suggest a feature that you'd prefer to be implemented differently... terrific! Heck, even debunk numbers that do come out for a game should that they be presented in a misleading manner(Big Macs, indeed). But to present numbers that are even more misleading, even more meaningless?
Seriously, should we count how many people go to the local Walmart by counting how many times its toilet got flushed?
Sure, that'd work for a Taco Bell...
Well by that way of thinking we can also surmise that other game companies could be under hyping games (more so when close to their release) so their game gets a bigger release of subs than what they may if a game is drawing in a lot of people on their release date.
Now am not saying this is going on but we know Wildstar is going to release soon and other games already released could be losing subs. What better way than to try and say as many negative things about the released of a game like ESO.
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Or what if we praise ESO in forums and in gaming sites with 9/10 reviews (like SWTOR) in order to avoid ppl save money for Wildstar or make others drop their current mmo's for this one?
Pure speculations...
Well its up to 155.1 now. If you dont think people who play the game nand are sitting through 14 hour down times or 3-4 hour downtimes arent reading patch notes or looking for answers to some of the stuff that is wrong with the game youre deluded. Especially during an early release where a majority of the people who pre ordered are internet junkies and know plenty about how companies disseminate information. Whether they like the forums or not there going to want to see what a patch has fixed.
Is it a good indicator? Obviously not, but it is an indicator nonetheless. If the thing had 500K views then the spin owuld go the other way.
I would guess there were less than half a million pre orders sold (counting people who bought multiple copies). Since they arent bragging about it (like they did the make believe number of people who signed up for beta) then we can assume the numbers arent good. They couldnt brag enough that they had 5 million or whatever beta sign ups (ignoring or not realizing the fact that some people probably signed up dozens if not hundreds of times just to increase their chances of getting in) But when something actually matters and can be given fairly accurately its crickets.
Look it is nothing personal against ESO, its the principle and the mentality they have shown since at least August in regards to this game and the decisions they have made. I just dont want them to continue to be a (bad) example of how companies can continue to release shit (supposed) AAA MMO titles and make money hand over fist even though the game sucks, the mechanics are broken, and theyre launching a game with obvious pay wall and pre order walls.
Now a fantasy land person might think that they would use their dissapointment to make a BETTER game. Yeah if you live in LaLa Land. The more obvious result will be a quicker switch to free to play and a more massive in game store selection. But if the game doesnt run right that doesnt matter anyway.
Am I 'rooting' for ESo to fail. No. I am just hoping that the lack of interest in the game makes other companies hesitate before they make the same bad decisions ZoS did the past 7 or 8 months concerning this game.
There hasn't been a new mmo out for quite a while, even if most don't play past the first month it will have a lot of buyers.
A forum post isn't a valid indication of anything.