Nah EB Games alone probably accounts for a couple hundred thousand orders. Then there's best buy, Circuit City, Wal-Mart, Target, etc. They're counting stores ordering the game to put it on shelves in their numbers. Which makes them 'true' but not 'firm'. A lot of those pre-orders could wind up being returned if the stores can't move them off shelves.
Ahhh...this I can believe but again would this not be worded as store orders and not pre-sales?
... To each their own. Problem with most MMORPGs atm is they all promote grinding and grinding to be good at it, so some people outlevel thier friends so and then cant do anything together. People need a MMORPG that doesnt promote grinding on "mobs" to be the best at it. I am kind of glad this is not another EQ-clone like what WoW is, a grind-fest which most of my friends are BORED with.
You still need to grind in DDO, you just do it on dungeon crawls so I'm not sure how, or if, this will be better then the common MMO grind. DDO is kind of a like ot or hate it game, and I wish the game much success.
Wow! Haven't read the whole thread yet... but 1,5 million pre-orders (even if most of them are shop orders).. huge success. Seems the AD&D license is really paying off for Turbine.. at least if they can deliver something good. Plus they have the advantage of WoW beeing such a success at bringing new players to the mmo(rp)g genre.. .
I just hope that the industry doesn't take it as another sign towards instanced environments....
Originally posted by BarryManilow Problem with most MMORPGs atm is they all promote grinding and grinding to be good at it, so some people outlevel thier friends so and then cant do anything together. People need a MMORPG that doesnt promote grinding on "mobs" to be the best at it. I am kind of glad this is not another EQ-clone like what WoW is, a grind-fest which most of my friends are BORED with.
Haha!
That's so cute... you give up "grinding mobs" for "grinding quests" for DD0.
You do know that to level up you're going to be doing the same quests over and over...
Originally posted by Elnator They're counting stores ordering the game to put it on shelves in their numbers.
Where did you get that information bro? Considering the raving article on DDO in the January issue of PC Gamer I don't think 1.5 million pre-orders is that far fetched, and pre-orders meaning people pre-ordering not stores ordering: that's just called orders, not pre-orders.
That having been said, I would like to see something a bit more official than "my local newspaper says...".
Some people may be buying the preorder for a beta key but 1.5 million people are not playing the beta so assuming the 1.5 mill number is accurate I would say most are real preorders.
I for one think that this is just an advertising decision.D&D has a great fan base but lets be serious, plus there are a lot of people sick of Turbine after AC2.
Turbine Inc, makers of the ever popular "Asherons Call" has announced pre-sales for its' upcoming "Dungeons and Dragons Online" topping 1.5 million as of January 5.
As someone else pointed out, this could just be $1.5 million not 1.5 million pre-order customers. If it's $1.5 it's only 30k pre-orders and thats nothing to crow about.
EB Games alone probably accounts for a couple hundred thousand orders. Then there's best buy, Circuit City, Wal-Mart, Target, etc.
They're probably counting stores ordering the game to put it on shelves in their numbers. Which makes them 'true' but not 'firm'. A lot of those pre-orders could wind up being returned if the stores can't move them off shelves.
Ahhh...this I can believe but again would this not be worded as store orders and not pre-sales?
Could be. Could also mean they have $1.5 million in pre-sales as well.
Since the OP and/or the "Paper" didn't specify we will never know will we?
I suspect that IF it's 1.5 million UNITS that it's including stores pre-ordering, not just players. If it's a DOLLAR figure then it's only 30,000 units... which I find a LOT easier to believe than 1.5 million. More and more I'm beginning to believe that it's the Later. If they honestly had 1.5 million REAL pre-orders it'd be ALL OVER the web. Not just here... hell CNN would probably have a blurb about it.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Sig image Pending Still in: A couple Betas
Mobs are challenging to fight (I tried 2 lv.6-7 quests with a group so far, and the difficulty seems about right amount, but that's all I've tested so far)
Doing the first time on normal,hard,elite will now give bonus exp
I can see this game do okay at most as it is right now... However there's 2 major things that makes this game sub par IMO...
Lack of Content.. The requirement of repeating the same dungeons... Dungeons that feels the same as another... ( This one I'm not as concerned about as #2, because they rework some dungeons and more dungeons being added after launch?)
Lack of Story/Goal... This one is really bad, especially when the game is practically all instanced... Instance should make it easier to create stories to follow... But so far, there's no main story that you follow... There's no goal... No purpose... So all there are, is quests and doing quests with groups of people or friends...( In other games atleast there's pvp as a motivation, or big boss you know u get to fight when u level higher or etc...)
For the 1.5 million presales thing... yea, what the guy before me said...
Of course its selling copies, its got D&D in the title. Otherwise that game is complete crap. Buy GW and play for free. And YES I do know from first hand experience.
"God, please help us sinful children of Ivalice.."
I've played MMO's before... games like FFXI, EQOA, FlyFF, and Planetside. So I would consider being an MMO enthuseist.(sorry for spelling) Having typed that in I think that out of the 1.5 million people that preordered D+D most of them (80%) are D+D enthusiests who are looking for an enhancement to the pen and paper D+D. I've never played pen and paper D+D but I can say that alot of my other family members have played it and they have an ENORMOUS circle of friends that also game with pen and paper D+D on a regular basis. The reason why I've brought that up is most folks who are a hardcore fan of a franchise (especially one that is as big as D+D) is going to perchase a new product that comes out, especially a product that gives or attempts to provide that extra amount of realism into it.
I would guess that most (80%) of the people that preordered D+D are hardcore fans of the franchise and have purchased the game like they would a lottery ticket. "Well I love D+D stuff so the game MIGHT JUST MIGHT have some stuff in it i'll like" thats what they were saying to themselves when they went to the website and preordered it, and thats what people are going to be saying when the game is on the shelf. To give a reason why I would say that is I'm a true hardcore without a doubt DIEHARD star trek fan. STO will come out in 2007 or so and from the early .... yes very early concepts of what the devs are doing in that game chances are im gunna hate it. But I'm still gunna get STO because I love Star Trek SOOOO MUCH that I'll play STO and try to latch onto or cling to ANY SINGLE PART of the game that I like. Even if (80%) of STO sux.
Hopefully you guys/gals can see where I'm going with this. There are so many people that like D+D (especially pen and paper) that they will buy the game or preorder it on a whim just to see if ANY OF IT WILL BE GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY. The preorderers who bought this game love D+D so much that they are willing to give the people at turbine A CHANCE of making them happy.
I predict this game will last a year... maybe a little less than that when the little kids who play the game nostop wont be able to show off there UBERLYOMFGPWNED armor to anyone because the game is 100% instanced. All that will remain is the hardcore players and even though I do think theres alot of them I dont think they will pay monthly subscription for a 100% instanced game. (although I could be very wrong)
Im still kinda shocked that 1.5 million peeps already preordered this game than again the fanbase for D+D is huge and that 1.5 million number just emphasises (sorry for spelling) that.
Oh and to any potential flamers. Yes I've never played D+D before. No I havent played the beta yet. Yes I have been to the D+D website and have viewed several of the pros and cons of the game. And yes I have ABSOLUTELY no idea on how to play D+D nor do I ever insinuate that I do. happy reading
Is there an MMO that out there that isn't affected by Xao Ping Wang and their money grubbing macro bots? http://wow.stratics.com/content/features/editorials/mf/ Just say no to ingame money/mob farming.... the site says it all
3 guys at work and myself just went and pre-ordered today at lunch. Of my 3 friends none of them have ever played an MMO before. They are pretty excited about the game. Actually, I haven't seen them this excited about a game since Neverwinter Nights.
I'm looking forward to it myself. And I think that you guys are trying to judge this from a typical MMO comparison. I don't think that's who's buying this game though. And my friends have played the hell out of Neverwinter Nights. So I don't think they'll get too bored with this either. They are big time stat crunchers. It's the numbers game to them. Build the character up and then send him in to see how he does. That's where they have fun.
Also, the guy at the game store said there were tons of pre-orders. I'm happy about it.
Originally posted by xplororor Please tell us what the name, date, and page number, of this newspaper is?
The Helena Independant Recond, Known as the Helena IR, In their weekly entertainment extra addition to the paper, last page of the insert.. Page 35. Date: Thursday, Jan 12, 2006.
I looked for this online and called the local paper office, however they said that this insert has not yet been put into online format, as it is only 16 weeks old.
Trust me I would LOVE to have the luxury to provide the link to this article.
If I can borrow a friends dig camera, shoot a photo and provide a link to a photo of the article, I will exactly this in the coming days.
However, I probably need not worry to prove this to trolls, doubters, and WoW geeks who think that this game selling so popular is impossible.
Similar reports and success stories will be out soon enough.
I just hope Turbine is ready for the monster of players they have set themselves up for.
THIS STORY IS NOT TRUE. I looked on their website http://www.helenair.com/ and there is no reference to the article. I searched the archives which are current up to today. if you type in something like "helena" you will get articles from as recently as today. I typed in turbine and nothing comes back.
So i called their offices on the phone. 406 447-4000 (that's their main switchboard number). They connected me with someone in classifieds. The lady was very nice and this is what she told me:
Yes there is a weekly entertainment section that is printed every Thursday. Yes there was an entertainment section yesterday, January 12th 2006. There is no Turbine article on page 35 because there is no page 35. Yesterdays sections was 15 pages in length. The lady was nice enough to look through the entire entertainment section looking for an article talking about Turbine's new MMO, DDO.
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Originally posted by xplororor Please tell us what the name, date, and page number, of this newspaper is?
The Helena Independant Recond, Known as the Helena IR, In their weekly entertainment extra addition to the paper, last page of the insert.. Page 35. Date: Thursday, Jan 12, 2006.
I looked for this online and called the local paper office, however they said that this insert has not yet been put into online format, as it is only 16 weeks old.
Trust me I would LOVE to have the luxury to provide the link to this article.
If I can borrow a friends dig camera, shoot a photo and provide a link to a photo of the article, I will exactly this in the coming days.
However, I probably need not worry to prove this to trolls, doubters, and WoW geeks who think that this game selling so popular is impossible.
Similar reports and success stories will be out soon enough.
I just hope Turbine is ready for the monster of players they have set themselves up for.
THIS STORY IS NOT TRUE. I looked on their website http://www.helenair.com/ and there is no reference to the article. I searched the archives which are current up to today. if you type in something like "helena" you will get articles from as recently as today. I typed in turbine and nothing comes back.
So i called their offices on the phone. 406 447-4000 (that's their main switchboard number). They connected me with someone in classifieds. The lady was very nice and this is what she told me:
Yes there is a weekly entertainment section that is printed every Thursday. Yes there was an entertainment section yesterday, January 12th 2006. There is no Turbine article on page 35 because there is no page 35. Yesterdays sections was 15 pages in length. The lady was nice enough to look through the entire entertainment section looking for an article talking about Turbine's new MMO, DDO.
Needless to say this is nothing but a hoax.
~PD
Hahahaha
What'll people do to hype their "favorite" game...
I wonder if Turbine has something to do with it. Are they finally realizing it's THAT bad?
THIS STORY IS NOT TRUE. I looked on their website http://www.helenair.com/ and there is no reference to the article. I searched the archives which are current up to today. if you type in something like "helena" you will get articles from as recently as today. I typed in turbine and nothing comes back.
So i called their offices on the phone. 406 447-4000 (that's their main switchboard number). They connected me with someone in classifieds. The lady was very nice and this is what she told me:
Yes there is a weekly entertainment section that is printed every Thursday. Yes there was an entertainment section yesterday, January 12th 2006. There is no Turbine article on page 35 because there is no page 35. Yesterdays sections was 15 pages in length. The lady was nice enough to look through the entire entertainment section looking for an article talking about Turbine's new MMO, DDO.
Needless to say this is nothing but a hoax.
~PD
TY for clearing that up, as most of us knew all along. Like I said earlier journalist use certain rules when writing, this quote did not sound right...it read like someone trying to sound like a reporter or maybe an amateur with no training in journalism.
The Helena Independant Recond, Known as the Helena IR, In their weekly entertainment extra addition to the paper, last page of the insert.. Page 35. Date: Thursday, Jan 12, 2006.
I looked for this online and called the local paper office, however they said that this insert has not yet been put into online format, as it is only 16 weeks old.
Trust me I would LOVE to have the luxury to provide the link to this article. If I can borrow a friends dig camera, shoot a photo and provide a link to a photo of the article, I will exactly this in the coming days.
However, I probably need not worry to prove this to trolls, doubters, and WoW geeks who think that this game selling so popular is impossible.
Similar reports and success stories will be out soon enough.
I just hope Turbine is ready for the monster of players they have set themselves up for.
THIS STORY IS NOT TRUE. I looked on their website http://www.helenair.com and there is no reference to the article. I searched the archives which are current up to today. if you type in something like "helena" you will get articles from as recently as today. I typed in turbine and nothing comes back.
So i called their offices on the phone. 406 447-4000 (that's their main switchboard number). They connected me with someone in classifieds. The lady was very nice and this is what she told me:
"Yes there is a weekly entertainment section that is printed every Thursday. Yes there was an entertainment section yesterday, January 12th 2006. There is no Turbine article on page 35 because there is no page 35. Yesterdays sections was 15 pages in length."
The lady was nice enough to look through the entire entertainment section looking for an article talking about Turbine's new MMO, DDO.
Needless to say this is nothing but a hoax. ~PD
Thanks for digging Pinkdaisy
Really scary the lengths DDO Fans are going to to try to hype the game. It sucks. Everyone who played the beta has said it sucks. But still the faithful refuse to believe. Nobody has really said the game is bad just that it flat out isn't worth a monthly fee. If Turbine released this with a cover price and no monthly fee then the game would easily be worth playing. But with a monthly fee attached it just doesn't have anything I'm lookign for in a pay-to-play game. If I want 'classic' AD&D with friends then I play NWN with friends and, soon, will be playing NWN2 with friends. My friends and I LOVE getting together for a night of NWN currently. And before that we used to do Baldur's Gate online as well (though it didn't exactly work well over the 'net unfortunately so we gave up on it). NWN2 will be our next online AD&D session since DDO offers so little for so much cost.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Sig image Pending Still in: A couple Betas
NDA is off. Sadly, DDO is not that good. Currently, no 1st person view mode available. 100% instanced, everywhere, all the time. Zones, Zones, and more Zones. Zones within Zones within Zones. Graphics are equivilent for today's standards. Lots of lockups on Zone transitions into Quest areas. Total lack of good Solo content. But no supurb tools for forming Groups; just the standard LFG type lists. Twitch combat just wierd and doesn't work as well in reality as one would think it might. NPCs in the town are rooted in place; back to the early days of EQ1. Repetitive play; needs (and will probably get) lots more content. Artificial constraints on advancement; feels sooooo slow. Voice chat only available in groups; don't expect to go into a Tavern and talk to folks. Text chat seemed very, very dead for such a new game. No one was asking for help; no one was offering any help. Overall, this game has a very 'rushed' feel about it. As if there was a game engine available, and the game was layered onto it to make a product. It just does not feel 'alive'; I found nothing that would draw me into this world in a big way. No Zip to it. No sense of Wonder. No : WOW! Look what I just found/did/saw! I have a feeling that many pre-orders (mine included) will never become a paying subscription. I would recommend waiting for the inevitable Free Trial before spending $$$. I wish I had.
Most mmorpgs have no existing fans when they announce the project and have to attract them in small amounts as the development continues until its eventual release.
DnD however has of millions of fans across the world. It should come as no surprise to hear that they have above average preorder sales. Im not sure about 1.5m, but the mmo market is much larger in 2006 than it was in 2002 when 100-300k was considered a large amount.
Hmm might be on a hoax but i can still see D&D online selling millions based solely on the name.
Lets frace it long standing franchise means big bucks.Even SWG that has numerously shot itself in the leg still keeps selling based on its name.
Back in 2003 even!Anyone remember how hard it was to get a copy of SWG at launch ?If SoE printed a million copies it would have sold it in days even weeks after it leaked out that SWG was released in a terrible almost unplayable state people still paid X2 on ebay for a copy.
It has gone thru what 3 major exodus and it will still get more clients.
Only brand name i recall doing badly is MxO and lets face it -1)its only true hype is the first movie and the other 2 sucked badly .By time neo died in last movie most people felt"thank god the let matrix story end"
2)had awful awful other games based on the matrix that sold poorly.
Thats why MxO did so poorly it thought it had a huge brand name to sell and did not so it had to compete with other non brand name mmorpg and was awful to see.
That's crazy. Man, just think if D&D Online fails when it comes out. That would suck badily. I can see a little competition between WoW and D&D (both classics) and Everquest II . . well I have'nt herd much from that MMORPG.
I wish Turbines game luck. Maybe I will get to play it.
Originally posted by Celestian Turbine Inc, makers of the ever popular "Asherons Call" has announced pre-sales for its' upcoming "Dungeons and Dragons Online" topping 1.5 million as of January 5.
As someone else pointed out, this could just be $1.5 million not 1.5 million pre-order customers. If it's $1.5 it's only 30k pre-orders and thats nothing to crow about.
This is worth pointing out a third time. It's almost certainly $1,500,000.00, not 1.5 million copies. A figure of 1.5 million copies pre-ordered, $75 million, is absurd.
I thought ASHERON"S CALL was made by microsoft and dumped into turbines lap when they didnt see it making money?..hmm maybe that was a different game.Anyhow it wouldn't surprise me if it was copies of D&D,because people are notorious for supporting a product on it's name alone ,with no clue what there getting.There should be a workeable download for a beta or free month of gameplay before handing out any cash on a whim.
I don't trust turbine much,and i know for a fact that wizards of the coast is a horrible organization.There boss HASBRO is nothing more than a legal giant involved in lawsuits all the time,and laying down pressure on the little guy cus they can.They have removed websites of the common person ,because websites that pay hasbro money request it.Nice propaganda hasbro!they get no respect from me.
This game will have no crafting,and true to WOTC/hasbro ,they will try to offer as litle as possible to make the most money they can.There gonna sell this game on it's name alone!I don't know what game engine there using,but if it's made from scratch,it's only been in the works for barely over a year at most.How could it be a good product?Unless they had turbine working on it before the finacial backing was ever in place,i doub't it.
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You still need to grind in DDO, you just do it on dungeon crawls so I'm not sure how, or if, this will be better then the common MMO grind. DDO is kind of a like ot or hate it game, and I wish the game much success.
Paks
Wow! Haven't read the whole thread yet... but 1,5 million pre-orders (even if most of them are shop orders).. huge success.
Seems the AD&D license is really paying off for Turbine.. at least if they can deliver something good.
Plus they have the advantage of WoW beeing such a success at bringing new players to the mmo(rp)g genre.. .
I just hope that the industry doesn't take it as another sign towards instanced environments....
Haha!
That's so cute... you give up "grinding mobs" for "grinding quests" for DD0.
You do know that to level up you're going to be doing the same quests over and over...
http://www.greycouncil.org/
Where did you get that information bro? Considering the raving article on DDO in the January issue of PC Gamer I don't think 1.5 million pre-orders is that far fetched, and pre-orders meaning people pre-ordering not stores ordering: that's just called orders, not pre-orders.
That having been said, I would like to see something a bit more official than "my local newspaper says...".
Some people may be buying the preorder for a beta key but 1.5 million people are not playing the beta so assuming the 1.5 mill number is accurate I would say most are real preorders.
As someone else pointed out, this could just be $1.5 million not 1.5 million pre-order customers. If it's $1.5 it's only 30k pre-orders and thats nothing to crow about.
http://www.greycouncil.org/
Could be.
Could also mean they have $1.5 million in pre-sales as well.
Since the OP and/or the "Paper" didn't specify we will never know will we?
I suspect that IF it's 1.5 million UNITS that it's including stores pre-ordering, not just players. If it's a DOLLAR figure then it's only 30,000 units... which I find a LOT easier to believe than 1.5 million. More and more I'm beginning to believe that it's the Later. If they honestly had 1.5 million REAL pre-orders it'd be ALL OVER the web. Not just here... hell CNN would probably have a blurb about it.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
Playing after the 4.5 patch update...
Changes I'm aware of and like better...
I can see this game do okay at most as it is right now... However there's 2 major things that makes this game sub par IMO...
For the 1.5 million presales thing... yea, what the guy before me said...
Of course its selling copies, its got D&D in the title. Otherwise that game is complete crap. Buy GW and play for free. And YES I do know from first hand experience.
"God, please help us sinful children of Ivalice.."
I've played MMO's before... games like FFXI, EQOA, FlyFF, and Planetside. So I would consider being an MMO enthuseist.(sorry for spelling) Having typed that in I think that out of the 1.5 million people that preordered D+D most of them (80%) are D+D enthusiests who are looking for an enhancement to the pen and paper D+D. I've never played pen and paper D+D but I can say that alot of my other family members have played it and they have an ENORMOUS circle of friends that also game with pen and paper D+D on a regular basis. The reason why I've brought that up is most folks who are a hardcore fan of a franchise (especially one that is as big as D+D) is going to perchase a new product that comes out, especially a product that gives or attempts to provide that extra amount of realism into it.
I would guess that most (80%) of the people that preordered D+D are hardcore fans of the franchise and have purchased the game like they would a lottery ticket. "Well I love D+D stuff so the game MIGHT JUST MIGHT have some stuff in it i'll like" thats what they were saying to themselves when they went to the website and preordered it, and thats what people are going to be saying when the game is on the shelf. To give a reason why I would say that is I'm a true hardcore without a doubt DIEHARD star trek fan. STO will come out in 2007 or so and from the early .... yes very early concepts of what the devs are doing in that game chances are im gunna hate it. But I'm still gunna get STO because I love Star Trek SOOOO MUCH that I'll play STO and try to latch onto or cling to ANY SINGLE PART of the game that I like. Even if (80%) of STO sux.
Hopefully you guys/gals can see where I'm going with this. There are so many people that like D+D (especially pen and paper) that they will buy the game or preorder it on a whim just to see if ANY OF IT WILL BE GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY. The preorderers who bought this game love D+D so much that they are willing to give the people at turbine A CHANCE of making them happy.
I predict this game will last a year... maybe a little less than that when the little kids who play the game nostop wont be able to show off there UBERLYOMFGPWNED armor to anyone because the game is 100% instanced. All that will remain is the hardcore players and even though I do think theres alot of them I dont think they will pay monthly subscription for a 100% instanced game. (although I could be very wrong)
Im still kinda shocked that 1.5 million peeps already preordered this game than again the fanbase for D+D is huge and that 1.5 million number just emphasises (sorry for spelling) that.
Oh and to any potential flamers. Yes I've never played D+D before. No I havent played the beta yet. Yes I have been to the D+D website and have viewed several of the pros and cons of the game. And yes I have ABSOLUTELY no idea on how to play D+D nor do I ever insinuate that I do. happy reading
Is there an MMO that out there that isn't affected by Xao Ping Wang and their money grubbing macro bots?
http://wow.stratics.com/content/features/editorials/mf/
Just say no to ingame money/mob farming.... the site says it all
3 guys at work and myself just went and pre-ordered today at lunch. Of my 3 friends none of them have ever played an MMO before. They are pretty excited about the game. Actually, I haven't seen them this excited about a game since Neverwinter Nights.
I'm looking forward to it myself. And I think that you guys are trying to judge this from a typical MMO comparison. I don't think that's who's buying this game though. And my friends have played the hell out of Neverwinter Nights. So I don't think they'll get too bored with this either. They are big time stat crunchers. It's the numbers game to them. Build the character up and then send him in to see how he does. That's where they have fun.
Also, the guy at the game store said there were tons of pre-orders. I'm happy about it.
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The Helena Independant Recond, Known as the Helena IR, In their weekly entertainment extra addition to the paper, last page of the insert.. Page 35. Date: Thursday, Jan 12, 2006.
I looked for this online and called the local paper office, however they said that this insert has not yet been put into online format, as it is only 16 weeks old.
Trust me I would LOVE to have the luxury to provide the link to this article.
If I can borrow a friends dig camera, shoot a photo and provide a link to a photo of the article, I will exactly this in the coming days.
However, I probably need not worry to prove this to trolls, doubters, and WoW geeks who think that this game selling so popular is impossible.
Similar reports and success stories will be out soon enough.
I just hope Turbine is ready for the monster of players they have set themselves up for.
THIS STORY IS NOT TRUE. I looked on their website http://www.helenair.com/ and there is no reference to the article. I searched the archives which are current up to today. if you type in something like "helena" you will get articles from as recently as today. I typed in turbine and nothing comes back.
So i called their offices on the phone. 406 447-4000 (that's their main switchboard number). They connected me with someone in classifieds. The lady was very nice and this is what she told me:
Yes there is a weekly entertainment section that is printed every Thursday. Yes there was an entertainment section yesterday, January 12th 2006. There is no Turbine article on page 35 because there is no page 35. Yesterdays sections was 15 pages in length. The lady was nice enough to look through the entire entertainment section looking for an article talking about Turbine's new MMO, DDO.
Needless to say this is nothing but a hoax.
~PD
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The Helena Independant Recond, Known as the Helena IR, In their weekly entertainment extra addition to the paper, last page of the insert.. Page 35. Date: Thursday, Jan 12, 2006.
I looked for this online and called the local paper office, however they said that this insert has not yet been put into online format, as it is only 16 weeks old.
Trust me I would LOVE to have the luxury to provide the link to this article.
If I can borrow a friends dig camera, shoot a photo and provide a link to a photo of the article, I will exactly this in the coming days.
However, I probably need not worry to prove this to trolls, doubters, and WoW geeks who think that this game selling so popular is impossible.
Similar reports and success stories will be out soon enough.
I just hope Turbine is ready for the monster of players they have set themselves up for.
THIS STORY IS NOT TRUE. I looked on their website http://www.helenair.com/ and there is no reference to the article. I searched the archives which are current up to today. if you type in something like "helena" you will get articles from as recently as today. I typed in turbine and nothing comes back.
So i called their offices on the phone. 406 447-4000 (that's their main switchboard number). They connected me with someone in classifieds. The lady was very nice and this is what she told me:
Yes there is a weekly entertainment section that is printed every Thursday. Yes there was an entertainment section yesterday, January 12th 2006. There is no Turbine article on page 35 because there is no page 35. Yesterdays sections was 15 pages in length. The lady was nice enough to look through the entire entertainment section looking for an article talking about Turbine's new MMO, DDO.
Needless to say this is nothing but a hoax.
~PD
Hahahaha
What'll people do to hype their "favorite" game...
I wonder if Turbine has something to do with it. Are they finally realizing it's THAT bad?
THIS STORY IS NOT TRUE. I looked on their website http://www.helenair.com/ and there is no reference to the article. I searched the archives which are current up to today. if you type in something like "helena" you will get articles from as recently as today. I typed in turbine and nothing comes back.
So i called their offices on the phone. 406 447-4000 (that's their main switchboard number). They connected me with someone in classifieds. The lady was very nice and this is what she told me:
Yes there is a weekly entertainment section that is printed every Thursday. Yes there was an entertainment section yesterday, January 12th 2006. There is no Turbine article on page 35 because there is no page 35. Yesterdays sections was 15 pages in length. The lady was nice enough to look through the entire entertainment section looking for an article talking about Turbine's new MMO, DDO.
Needless to say this is nothing but a hoax.
~PD
TY for clearing that up, as most of us knew all along. Like I said earlier journalist use certain rules when writing, this quote did not sound right...it read like someone trying to sound like a reporter or maybe an amateur with no training in journalism.
Thanks for digging
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Really scary the lengths DDO Fans are going to to try to hype the game. It sucks. Everyone who played the beta has said it sucks. But still the faithful refuse to believe. Nobody has really said the game is bad just that it flat out isn't worth a monthly fee. If Turbine released this with a cover price and no monthly fee then the game would easily be worth playing. But with a monthly fee attached it just doesn't have anything I'm lookign for in a pay-to-play game. If I want 'classic' AD&D with friends then I play NWN with friends and, soon, will be playing NWN2 with friends. My friends and I LOVE getting together for a night of NWN currently. And before that we used to do Baldur's Gate online as well (though it didn't exactly work well over the 'net unfortunately so we gave up on it). NWN2 will be our next online AD&D session since DDO offers so little for so much cost.
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Woah.. if this truly is a hoax then WOW... how freakin pathetic can you get. I mean to go such extents to fanboy a game.
Good grief man, you just won the Pirrg award for the most pathetic thread in history.
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Most mmorpgs have no existing fans when they announce the project and have to attract them in small amounts as the development continues until its eventual release.
DnD however has of millions of fans across the world. It should come as no surprise to hear that they have above average preorder sales. Im not sure about 1.5m, but the mmo market is much larger in 2006 than it was in 2002 when 100-300k was considered a large amount.
Hmm might be on a hoax but i can still see D&D online selling millions based solely on the name.
Lets frace it long standing franchise means big bucks.Even SWG that has numerously shot itself in the leg still keeps selling based on its name.
Back in 2003 even!Anyone remember how hard it was to get a copy of SWG at launch ?If SoE printed a million copies it would have sold it in days even weeks after it leaked out that SWG was released in a terrible almost unplayable state people still paid X2 on ebay for a copy.
It has gone thru what 3 major exodus and it will still get more clients.
Only brand name i recall doing badly is MxO and lets face it -1)its only true hype is the first movie and the other 2 sucked badly .By time neo died in last movie most people felt"thank god the let matrix story end"
2)had awful awful other games based on the matrix that sold poorly.
Thats why MxO did so poorly it thought it had a huge brand name to sell and did not so it had to compete with other non brand name mmorpg and was awful to see.
That's crazy. Man, just think if D&D Online fails when it comes out. That would suck badily. I can see a little competition between WoW and D&D (both classics) and Everquest II . . well I have'nt herd much from that MMORPG.
I wish Turbines game luck. Maybe I will get to play it.
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As someone else pointed out, this could just be $1.5 million not 1.5 million pre-order customers. If it's $1.5 it's only 30k pre-orders and thats nothing to crow about.
This is worth pointing out a third time. It's almost certainly $1,500,000.00, not 1.5 million copies. A figure of 1.5 million copies pre-ordered, $75 million, is absurd.
I thought ASHERON"S CALL was made by microsoft and dumped into turbines lap when they didnt see it making money?..hmm maybe that was a different game.Anyhow it wouldn't surprise me if it was copies of D&D,because people are notorious for supporting a product on it's name alone ,with no clue what there getting.There should be a workeable download for a beta or free month of gameplay before handing out any cash on a whim.
I don't trust turbine much,and i know for a fact that wizards of the coast is a horrible organization.There boss HASBRO is nothing more than a legal giant involved in lawsuits all the time,and laying down pressure on the little guy cus they can.They have removed websites of the common person ,because websites that pay hasbro money request it.Nice propaganda hasbro!they get no respect from me.
This game will have no crafting,and true to WOTC/hasbro ,they will try to offer as litle as possible to make the most money they can.There gonna sell this game on it's name alone!I don't know what game engine there using,but if it's made from scratch,it's only been in the works for barely over a year at most.How could it be a good product?Unless they had turbine working on it before the finacial backing was ever in place,i doub't it.
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