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Honest review from lvl50 VR6

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  • coorsguyscoorsguys Member Posts: 272
    Originally posted by jesteralways
    Originally posted by Waylark

    I just want to share my experience so far at TESO. I'm already level 50 and veteran lvl 6, please don't think there is a huge difference at VR10, there is not.

    GFX, Production level & Perfomance

    This must be the most powerfull MMO in terms of GOOD graphics and awesome perfomance. I mean, when you're playing along 100 people on your side, you know you're in a well optimized game so far.  I can't say the same about design art, really. There's an impressive areas, with very good use of lighting and such effects, but in terms of artistic design, the game is pretty boring and unvaried.

    The world seems static, nothing really moves, nothing is alive. NPCs are boring, acting like robots, I mean obviously they don't have life, but it lacks personality. Sincerely I don't care about their lives and his problems.

    There are really impressive things like Dark Anchors, but after seeing them for 4 or 5 times, fail to impress me. They are all the same except for the enemies you find... but there are not many variety If have to tell you.

    Leveling & VR content

    Leveling is really fun when you touch it for the first time, so far the first zone, then you get to the second and it's exactly the same, then the third and the fourth straight lose interest except for the main quest. 

    All areas are equal: minizones with quest hubs that are only 2 or 3 chain quests that direct you to another minizone. Around them there public dungeons, skyshards and bosses for 3 or 4 people, nothing relevant or exciting after having done for 10 times.

    And that's another annoying thing, in terms of replayability the game does not offer so much. Oh yeah, now you're 50 and have to climb 10 veteran levels, but they feels like another extra 10 levels more but demanding more experience per level, they are not anything special and you not feel more powerful with them.

    Veteran content just consist on playing "new areas" without the main quest missions or guild missions, ie, the best quests. It's like you're just playing the boring parts of the game. Sorry to saying, but main quest and guild quests are very well done it, but the rest are just a meh.

    Dungeons

    Some of them are extremely short, which is not a bad thing, but they are not anything special. Many of them feels like filler content. A small area with 3 or 4 bosses super-easy to do. I do not understand why people claims that they are hard or rewarding... I'm doing Veteran dungeons with my group of friends, and are really EASY to do. Please, even the first dungeon in Wildstar is 10 times more difficult than this.

    About the rewards, oh boy, the design is moving actually in the wrong way. What a complete mess, the loot have to be obtained by chests, because bosses usually drops nothing but trash. It's quite normal to finish the dungeon without any item, I meant gear items. 

    The problem with chests is that anyone can open them, but who design this system? It's horrible to play with pugs, really.

    PVP

    I will not say much else about that PVP, since I'm not a fan of this kind of PVP. Do not understand how people like to play with groups of 100 people, destroying people on the road that has no choice and conquering holdings while one group and another fight from a distance, and no one dares to approach because they die. (insta-die)

    For me it is boring, but I have to admit that sieges looks technically impressive, are a joy to watch. But in terms of fun, not my cup of tea. Yeah I know you can carry a small group to roam, but it's not so much better. YEP, I'm more an Arenas, BGs and open world PVP, but not that "open world pvp".

    Nothing to say, respect for those who like, really, just not designed for me.

    UI & Guild Stores

    This should probably be the worst UI I've seen in a long time, I mean, why if something works well, you change it to be tedious and uncomfortable? There are things that are really annoying, ugly menus and uncomfortable to use it, like inventory system, so much skyrim alike... not works well for a MMO. Don't trying to tell me is "different", it's not, just a poor UI design.

    About the Guild Stores, oh boy, I remember when they announced that game would not allow auction houses like others MMO, what a false statement. Actually there are auction houses that are designed only for clans, and each clan can only allow a maximum of 500 players.

    There is no search engine for the AH, it's just horrible. You put "mats" and let you out, you can not even organize them.

    BUGS

    Finally my favorite section. Yes, there are bunch of people who saying that have not been experienced any bug, the game is 10, good for them, but for the rest of us we have experienced a huge amount of bugs.

    Stop summoning your mount, floor breaking and absorb your character to infinity and beyond, NPC disappeare and never come back, NPC that stop working, quest items that become non-interactive,quest bugged missions that break your progress (and there are people who can not climb veteran levels for a week because ZeniMax has not fixed yet), graphic effects that stay permanent in your character, items that disappear from your inventory and rollbacks that randomly affect a group of people and returns them to 20 minutes in the past.

    And this is only a small of them, trust me. Me and friends of mine, such people around the game experienced more than that.

    This game is far from be "release candidate", there are too uncomfortable problems, and it's very sad to see how other games in recent years have come out in a much better way. Well polished, something that TESO lacks a lot.

    High End Content

    Disappointing. Everything is based on up to 50 and then up 10 plus extra levels do not really add anything new. Content is nonexistent, set up with gear and go throght Cyrodiil. PVE is nothing but adventure zones, and they are not in the game atm. So you do nothing but pvp.

    No more to say, really. Content is not exist atm as well, is more of the same without a purpose or goal, just like GW2 but with vertical advance. Yup, there is a carrot, but a bad one.

    Finals words

    I don't understand the hype for this game, it seems mediocre at best. I sincerely believe that as today there are better games to play on the market or most interesting and not too distant future release.

    Yep, you gonna burn me out, but truste me when I say I'm not a hater. if I'm a one of them then I dropped this game long before. I taking some fun, but I will droped as soon as Wildstar set down in the store.

    Please respect my points, jus't dont come and say: Go back to WoW, go back to something, "can I have your stuff?". Please be mature. 

    I was thinking that it is a very nicely written review and only confirms my suspicion of how worthless zenimax is but then this!!! now i know how "honest" this review is. you should have created a thread in wildstar forums with the title "ESO sux, WILDSTAR here i come!!". There was no need for this huge wall of misleading text. 

    The only reason for the wall of text is the other Wildstar fanbois and the equal opportunity haters can pretend that this is an actual "honest review". Even though most defending this clearly have not played eso past the beta level 17.  

  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,785
    Originally posted by Vector_Arrow
    Originally posted by RebelScum99

    Veteran Rank 6.  Jesus, some of you folks gotta get out and experience life a little bit.  

    A response like that makes me sick of people like you. God forbid he enjoys the game and plays more than you.

    Except that the OP"s post was about how much he doesn't enjoy the game. He dislikes ESO so much, that he has spent every waking hour playing it since launch. Because that makes sense?

    I agree with you, people who play more enjoy life just fine. I've played non-stop since launch too, but I love the game, I couldn't imagine spending that much time playing a game that I don't like.

  • DarkeonDarkeon Member UncommonPosts: 48

    Hahahahaha this is the most hilarious "review" I've ever read. 

     

    OP played this game non-stop but he doesn't like the game.

    World is static ?? ... hmmm are u sure you're not talking about Wildstar ?

    bla bla bla ... 

     

    And in the end he's waiting for Wildstar the only MMO that I've uninstalled after a few hours. BORING AS SHIT !! (for me ofc)

     

    ... "honest" review ... go play the new wow clone (bad wow clone) wildshit.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Rusque
    Originally posted by Vector_Arrow
    Originally posted by RebelScum99

    Veteran Rank 6.  Jesus, some of you folks gotta get out and experience life a little bit.  

    A response like that makes me sick of people like you. God forbid he enjoys the game and plays more than you.

    Except that the OP"s post was about how much he doesn't enjoy the game. He dislikes ESO so much, that he has spent every waking hour playing it since launch. Because that makes sense?

    I agree with you, people who play more enjoy life just fine. I've played non-stop since launch too, but I love the game, I couldn't imagine spending that much time playing a game that I don't like.

    I see this on steam reviews a lot, the other day I saw a guy with 600hrs played in a title telling others it's a bad game and not fun at all. Makes no sense at all.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • VolenibbletsVolenibblets Member UncommonPosts: 246
    Don't delude yourself OP, both Wildstar and ESO are mediocre games for 2014 at best and a grim sign of the times they are. Anyone who has played even five minutes of either game in beta and thinks that they bring anything innovative to the table that deserves even 10% of the hype is seeing something that clearly escapes me. Not that either are 'bad' of course, just nothing special worth getting your knickers in a twist over.     
  • BelgaraathBelgaraath Member UncommonPosts: 3,205
    Originally posted by Joejc7135
    Nice Review OP. You made quite a few of the fanbois here mad and for that I applaud you. Just pay them no mind...they are just grumpy because their tongues are all crampy and tired from delving so deep into zenimax cornhole.

    On the contrary, most of us are actually having a blast. Every poll overwhelmingly suggests that, even on a site like this which is anti themepark in general.

    There Is Always Hope!

  • LordZeikLordZeik Member UncommonPosts: 276

    A few things about the OP didn't add up so I decided to check what little posts he has. http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6256435#6256435

     

    Here the OP states ESO was given to him as a gift, and that he looks forward to wildstar.  I guess he decided to leave that part of "honesty" out of the review. I feel bad for the person who bought this guy the game. Seems from the get go you really could careless if you liked the game.

  • Branko2307Branko2307 Member UncommonPosts: 346
    Originally posted by LordZeik

    A few things about the OP didn't add up so I decided to check what little posts he has. http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6256435#6256435

     

    Here the OP states ESO was given to him as a gift, and that he looks forward to wildstar.  I guess he decided to leave that part of "honesty" out of the review. I feel bad for the person who bought this guy the game. Seems from the get go you really could careless if you liked the game.

     

    After reading his post and seeing a word Wildstar i knew he was not honest, no need of looking up his posts :P there was 0 reasons to mention any other game yet he "casually" did.

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  • MyriaMyria Member UncommonPosts: 699
    Originally posted by LordZeik

    Here the OP states ESO was given to him as a gift, and that he looks forward to wildstar.

    Wait... This guy has friends who buy him gifts and is looking forward to another game?

     

    Horrors! Burn the heathen at the stake!

     

    Even by the standards of this cesspool, that's about the stupidest attempt at a 'gotcha' I've ever seen.

  • TheOctagonTheOctagon Member UncommonPosts: 411

    Free-to-play within a year.

    Not even a full month and people are already hitting the 'Wall of Boredom'.

    Zeni's not going to be able to churn out content fast enough. to keep people happy and subbed.

  • greene75greene75 Member Posts: 39
    Originally posted by d_20
    Originally posted by Kinado

    I really want to like this game, that's why I bought it but the bad outweights the good at the moment. ESO has great potential, it runs really smooth, has great story and voice acting, looks amazing but if you buy it right now you ll be paying for a BETA at the most.

    I can agree with this ^

    Anyone that says different clearly hasn't played enough. My advice: buy the game to support it now but wait a few months to actually play it unless you want a frustrating and immersive breaking by bugs experience. If people don't support the game now, it will surely fail like SWTOR did and become a money hunger scheme to make up for the damage which would be a huge shame.

    This may be true. I hope not, because as buggy as this game is, it's still the funnest mmorpg I've ever played. That's weird, I know. It's the "so much potential" thing. ZOS needs to show serious progress in fixing bugs in the first 30 days and they need to comp people. They especially need to fix bugs that block progress, and cost people gold or missing items.

     I agree.  Enjoying the game myself, and so far lucky concerning the really bad bugs.  Only one time had progression blocked and that bug is being fixed this coming update.  But getting stuck on loading screens, typing in /reloadui a lot.  So far is worth it to me.  But if the bugs begin outpacing the fixing, that's when I might change my tune :)

     

     

  • WolfsheadWolfshead Member UncommonPosts: 224

    woow OP you are whine for you think Zenimax is not do there job serious why blame the company when fact is you rush to lvl 50 and now you sit around and have nothing to do well we know that zenimax did not complete end content and you know that after 12 days after release ESO the should add end content honest are you joking

    bug well is this your 1st time play mmo that DID NOT have bug in it and you think Wildstar will less bug free i think it is better if zenimax the bug 1st and add end game content later on serious OP you are one of those people that rush to max lvl at all new mmo and when you dont have anything you come to forum and whine and then you go back to old mmo and whine about all new mmo when you should blame yourself and not company it is not like a person from zenimax is stand behind you and hold a gun to your head force rush to max lvl.

    I take slow and easy and enjoy game alot and i make like 1 lvl per day and that is all i need for i know the end content is all done yet in ESO

  • AsariashaAsariasha Member UncommonPosts: 252
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by Asariasha
    Never said the game was perfect. I just said that the amount played is unhealthy and that I do not respect reviews of obviously video gaming addicted players.

     

    If you have any intention of being fair, you have no idea why the OP had the amount of time he did available to play video games or why they chose to spend it playing video games.  For example, they could have been injured with little else available in the way of entertainment.  I don't respect the opinions of people that make snap judgments with little to no facts (or pseudo "facts") to back up their opinions.

     

    That being said, when other people hit the same point in the game within a few months, even at a very slow progression rate, many will be saying the exact same things.  This has happened before and the same "arguments" were used to defend previous games.  A month or two later, the people who were originally calling the OP wrong were saying the exact same thing they had called wrong earlier.

     

    You can't deny that someone has serious health issues, if he continuously spends his whole time playing video games. No matter if he is unemployed, on holidays or because he has been injured with little else available in the way of entertainment.

     

    See, the term psycholgical saturation describes that due to strong repetition a previously joyful activity for a person quickly looses its positive stimulative nature and subsequently leads to a distinct antipathy towards the previously joyful activity. If the antipathy leads to cessation of the activity you name it Burn-out.

     

    The truth is always hard and you can call me arrogant or whatever you want, but why should I even consider respecting the "honest" review of someone who obviously is not able to consume video games in an appropriate and responsible way? Instead I prefer telling that I do not respect his opinion, tell him why and give him an advise that hopefully helps him - to rethink his gaming habits.

     

  • XarkoXarko Member EpicPosts: 1,180
    You are in for a dissapointment with Wildstar
  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197
    Originally posted by Xarko
    You are in for a dissapointment with Wildstar

    No he isn't.

    See what I did there?

    ..Cake..

  • RhyscoRhysco Member UncommonPosts: 7

     


    Originally posted by Waylark I just want to share my experience so far at TESO. I'm already level 50 and veteran lvl 6, please don't think there is a huge difference at VR10, there is not.

     

    This doens't state anything about you or that you are entitled to know more or better than a lvl25.

     


    The world seems static, nothing really moves, nothing is alive. NPCs are boring, acting like robots, I mean obviously they don't have life, but it lacks personality. Sincerely I don't care about their lives and his problems.

     

    Then you haven't been looking properly! And if you don't care about the npc's or their stories then you really shouldn't complain about the lack of content, since their stories are part of your adventuring and part of the world you are in.

     


    Leveling is really fun when you touch it for the first time, so far the first zone, then you get to the second and it's exactly the same, then the third and the fourth straight lose interest except for the main quest.

     

    Yes because any other mmo that has quests hubs that send you to kill x for y and then retrieve z items for b purpose feels alot fresh, and also quests hubs in those games do change the type of quest often so that you don't feel like you'r doing the same thing again and again. /sarcasm
    Man I really hope Wildstar doesn't have anything that looks like quest hubs or farming or you'll be bored too

     


    Dungeons
    Some of them are extremely short, which is not a bad thing, but they are not anything special. Many of them feels like filler content. A small area with 3 or 4 bosses super-easy to do. I do not understand why people claims that they are hard or rewarding... I'm doing Veteran dungeons with my group of friends, and are really EASY to do. Please, even the first dungeon in Wildstar is 10 times more difficult than this.

     

    You should play Dark Souls I+II and Demon´s Souls if you really want some form of a challenge... Or Ghouls 'n Ghosts

     


    I will not say much else about that PVP, since I'm not a fan of this kind of PVP. Do not understand how people like to play with groups of 100 people, destroying people on the road that has no choice and conquering holdings while one group and another fight from a distance, and no one dares to approach because they die. (insta-die)(...)YEP, I'm more an Arenas, BGs and open world PVP, but not that "open world pvp".

     

    +1 for ganking noobs over and over again, real fun right there. Arenas and BGs right... Have you ever thought that ESO PVP is like one giant Arena or BG?? Because I can easily find what you dont't like on a BG in wow for example.

     


    There is no search engine for the AH, it's just horrible. You put "mats" and let you out, you can not even organize them.

     

    There is NO auction house in the game! How did you find one?

     


    BUGS
    Finally my favorite section.

     

    I hope your favourite section in wildtsar isn't the bugs section...

     


    High End Content
    Disappointing. Everything is based on up to 50 and then up 10 plus extra levels do not really add anything new. Content is nonexistent, set up with gear and go throght Cyrodiil. PVE is nothing but adventure zones, and they are not in the game atm. So you do nothing but pvp.
    No more to say, really. Content is not exist atm as well, is more of the same without a purpose or goal, just like GW2 but with vertical advance. Yup, there is a carrot, but a bad one.

     

    You really don't know what you are talking about do you? What was it again LVL50 VR6? Like I said that doesn't give you any status, and will be only a reference to anyone who doesn't care or a reference to trolls... Content is nonexistent... what kind of content are you searching inside the game?

     


    Finals words
    I don't understand the hype for this game, it seems mediocre at best. I sincerely believe that as today there are better games to play on the market or most interesting and not too distant future release.
    Yep, you gonna burn me out, but truste me when I say I'm not a hater. if I'm a one of them then I dropped this game long before. I taking some fun, but I will droped as soon as Wildstar set down in the store.
    Please respect my points, jus't dont come and say: Go back to WoW, go back to something, "can I have your stuff?". Please be mature.

     

    I understand you don't like the game. I can't respect your points because they are not in sync with what the game is offering. Lack of content really? This game as so much content and so much lore and history than any other mmo out there. If you call your post a review at least do your homework and research the game. Don't just click through it and call it bad...

  • SpawnbladeSpawnblade Member UncommonPosts: 204

    How can someone give a reasonable review of a quest-based game if all they did was grind their way to the end?

     

    I mean, you killed the same mobs over and over again, of course the NPCs are going to seem stale.  Of course the content doesn't change when you hit VR levels.  The content is always the same with grinding, that's why it's called grinding!  

     

    Try playing the game next time before reviewing.  The real game.

  • Swids2010Swids2010 Member Posts: 244
    Good review about the same feeling me and my brother have been having about this game.

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  • RigurRigur Member Posts: 53
    Originally posted by Asariasha
    Originally posted by killion81
    Originally posted by Asariasha
    Never said the game was perfect. I just said that the amount played is unhealthy and that I do not respect reviews of obviously video gaming addicted players.

     

    If you have any intention of being fair, you have no idea why the OP had the amount of time he did available to play video games or why they chose to spend it playing video games.  For example, they could have been injured with little else available in the way of entertainment.  I don't respect the opinions of people that make snap judgments with little to no facts (or pseudo "facts") to back up their opinions.

     

    That being said, when other people hit the same point in the game within a few months, even at a very slow progression rate, many will be saying the exact same things.  This has happened before and the same "arguments" were used to defend previous games.  A month or two later, the people who were originally calling the OP wrong were saying the exact same thing they had called wrong earlier.

     

    You can't deny that someone has serious health issues, if he continuously spends his whole time playing video games. No matter if he is unemployed, on holidays or because he has been injured with little else available in the way of entertainment.

     

    See, the term psycholgical saturation describes that due to strong repetition a previously joyful activity for a person quickly looses its positive stimulative nature and subsequently leads to a distinct antipathy towards the previously joyful activity. If the antipathy leads to cessation of the activity you name it Burn-out.

     

    The truth is always hard and you can call me arrogant or whatever you want, but why should I even consider respecting the "honest" review of someone who obviously is not able to consume video games in an appropriate and responsible way? Instead I prefer telling that I do not respect his opinion, tell him why and give him an advise that hopefully helps him - to rethink his gaming habits.

     

    You are by far the most arrogant, self-righteous jackass I have seen on these forums. What someone deems worthy of their time is none of you're business. How about you take your judgements of others and shove them up your ass.

    The first MMO you loved will always be the best. You will never get that feeling back stop trying.

  • NightfyreNightfyre Member UncommonPosts: 205

    I agree with the OP, Elder Scroll was not (to me) what they claimed it would be.  Nothing innovative, did not feel like the Elder Scrolls I grew to love.  The quests were horrid, and I dreaded doing them; they just did not draw me into the world.

     

    I played Wildstar a little too, it wasn't enough to make a final decision; but what I did play I just wasn't feeling the excitement I thought I might.  It felt like other games that I played and I won't mention what those are, but you can see them in it.  Granted I might need more time to play it, just that I'm not sure if it will change my opinion/hopes of the game right now. 

  • MardaidsMardaids Member Posts: 4

    Waylark, I just tryed the game and I must say that you are a  LIAR .

    The game is great.

    Almost no Bugs (for the first month of launch of a game is expected to have bugs, but I bet Wildstar will have even more).

    It has content. In the first area I got 70 quests and 50 locations. Multiply that for 6 areas for each faction, multiplying for 3 factions, plus cyrodiil have to offer alot more.

    "the game is pretty boring"  WTF?!?!?

    "The world seems static, nothing really moves, nothing is alive", are you sure you played Elder Scrolls Online or some other game?

    "mediocre at best", are you on drugs?!? i under what you call a good game then. I hope your not refering to a game for 10 years old kids called Wildstar, are you?

     

    Waylark I hope NCSOFT pay you really good for posting that long post full of bullshit.

     

    Edit: You made me register mmorpg just to answer your post because someone had to put you on your place.

  • TheOctagonTheOctagon Member UncommonPosts: 411
    Originally posted by Mardaids
    ...stuff...

     

    Edit: You made me register mmorpg just to answer your post because someone had to put you on your place.

    If you registered here at MMORPG for just that one post, and a rude rant at that, I'd say your the one being paid off by MoneyGrubbaMax.

    ESO has nothing new or revolutionary.

    ..Do quests and sidequests.

    ..Go kill 5 trolls for their teeth.

    ..Recover the lost artifact.

    ..Grind some small group adventure.

    ..Get one shot in PvP as soon as you leave the starting point.

    ..Play King of The Hill (Seige).

    Watch the money drop when people don't re-sub and go back to their normal FTP rotation. We'll be able to add ESO to it by the end of this year.

  • Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,558
    Originally posted by Mardaids

    Waylark, I just tryed the game and I must say that you are a  LIAR .

    The game is great.

    Almost no Bugs (for the first month of launch of a game is expected to have bugs, but I bet Wildstar will have even more).

    It has content. In the first area I got 70 quests and 50 locations. Multiply that for 6 areas for each faction, multiplying for 3 factions, plus cyrodiil have to offer alot more.

    "the game is pretty boring"  WTF?!?!?

    "The world seems static, nothing really moves, nothing is alive", are you sure you played Elder Scrolls Online or some other game?

    "mediocre at best", are you on drugs?!? i under what you call a good game then. I hope your not refering to a game for 10 years old kids called Wildstar, are you?

     

    Waylark I hope NCSOFT pay you really good for posting that long post full of bullshit.

     

    Edit: You made me register mmorpg just to answer your post because someone had to put you on your place.

    Well shit, you sure put him in his place, with this well written, articulate, factual, masterpiece of writing.

  • kaiser3282kaiser3282 Member UncommonPosts: 2,759
    Originally posted by TheOctagon
    Originally posted by Mardaids
    ...stuff...

     

    Edit: You made me register mmorpg just to answer your post because someone had to put you on your place.

    If you registered here at MMORPG for just that one post, and a rude rant at that, I'd say your the one being paid off by MoneyGrubbaMax.

    ESO has nothing new or revolutionary.

    ..Do quests and sidequests.

    ..Go kill 5 trolls for their teeth.

    ..Recover the lost artifact.

    ..Grind some small group adventure.

    ..Get one shot in PvP as soon as you leave the starting point.

    ..Play King of The Hill (Seige).

    Watch the money drop when people don't re-sub and go back to their normal FTP rotation. We'll be able to add ESO to it by the end of this year.

    Where are people getting this thing where someone somewhere claimed ESO was going to be revolutionary and innovative? None of the TES games really were, and it's an MMO version of TES. They were great games sure, but they didn't revolutionize anything really. ESO contains a lot of the same stuff like oh i dunno let's say the SAME freaking quests that all of you nitwits keep whining about. What did you do in TES games? Go somewhere, kill something, collect something, etc. But oh hell no they better not put the same type of content in the MMO that they did in the single player games because it isn't "revolutionary".

    Funny thing is you same kids would be on here throwing a massive nonstop bitch fit if they did do anything revolutionary because "OMFG this is NOT TES. Where is all the stuff that makes it TES. This is something completely new waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"

    I'll never understand how some of you can't see just how ridiculous and hypocritical your whining is about these types of things.

  • VolenibbletsVolenibblets Member UncommonPosts: 246
    Not true. Morrowind (at least) was a huge step forward in immersion compared to what had gone before. The industry was blown away by it at the time. Not least because of the utterly beautiful engine, the ability to loot pretty much everything in sight and it felt like there were no limits and the world was living and breathing. Admittedly the subsequent games were pretty much upgraded versions of the same thing but it cannot be denied that it was a huge step forward in its day. ESO is fine for people who wish to play a tepid version of an elder scrolls game with their friends but I don't think anyone could really claim it does anything more for the industry that just that. The only issue detractors have with it and other recent games is that they are mediocre compared to (possibly exaggerated) expectations and the worry that supporting mediocrity will mean better games won't get made.   
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