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Originally posted by laokoko
"if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
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You found something you're having fun playing. That's what counts.
F**K labels.
I agree, but everyone else likes to place a label. I just think it is funny that many people like something but are talked down to because they are a "casual".
Originally posted by laokoko
"if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
Ah... remember the good ole days when "Hardcore" only referred to porn
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Don't listen to them.....People like that tend to do things like that to bring everyone else down to their level of unhappiness.
They will never be happy..until you aren't...
As a person who has went straight to the top of many games and ran out of content on a ton of games. I find myself now in the same spot you are... Enjoying a game finally that has came out in the last 5 years. I have went completely casual on this game and not being DIE HARD race to the top. I find myself saying screw End Game for the first time in a game in a long time. I seriously feel this way and have put in as many hours as someone who has made it to cold harbor already and I am still only level 8. I'm crafting and gathering my arse off at the moment and already have all my crafts up to 10, alchemy at 26 and taking my time reading every single book and trying to figure them out while looking in every single nook and crany in the gameworld. I have found so many things, super hidden skyshards, quests no one would think of doing, ect. In conclusion, I'm finally facing being called casual for the first time in five years and I say let the others leveling super fast to end game eat cake!
Yes, that amount of playtime in 2 weeks would definitely make you a casual player.
Welcome to the majority !
Here's the thing. The description that you just gave, in my opinion, is still pretty much hardcore. And the description of the player that races to the top of the game ignoring a large part of the content is still pretty much casual to what you do in comparison. I don't go so far as to say screw the labels because, like everything else in the world that we don't like, labels have their use in maintaining a certain status quo. In this case that status quo being, who do you want to hang out with?
It's when labels begin to become corrupted by the majority, and the majority is incorrect, that they turn into something negative and pretty much useless to all.
Hardcore, as a singular usage then, should mean a player who, like our friend quoted above, plays as much as they can taking advantage of as much as they can, for as long as they can.
Everything below that requires a modifier.
If you are the kind of person that races to endgame skipping all of the content on the way then you must qualify your hardcoreness with the thing that you like to do more than everything else, i.e. you are a hardcore leveler or endgamer or whatever your point is.
This kind of labeling continues all the way down to the point where you are no longer useful to anyone other than yourself, in which case you have just hit the casual mark. Not that being casual is a bad thing. A casual guys money spends like everyone elses, and even better to the developer because they don't have to race to feed that guy more content.
All of this BS though about what is really hardcore and what is really casual is just gamer epeen posturing though.
So to answer your question of whether you are casual or not. I would say, "Do you feel casual about the game?" Because if you only played it for one day but on every other day you were thinking about playing or wishing that you were playing, then you're not really casual, you are more so just hemmed up.
We all know what casual is. Casual is the guy who can't take the time to give a damn. If that's you then own it. Everything else though is just a degree of hardcore.
That is unless you want to put the term "Average" in there. And then all of a sudden you have a whole nother species on your hand of which most of us really belong to.
I'll even go one step farther and say this. You are here. That automatically puts you out of the casual zone. Because who would come to a hardcore MMORPG site, and post, about a game that they purchased, and played, and ask such a question, that were not?
Hm, well played. I'll second that and raise a glass to it! Cheers!
Also, don't worry about labels. I've learned from a young age, no matter what you want to call yourself, someone else will always want to label you differently to make you fit into their idea of you.
If you see yourself as a casual, then it's that. It's more important for you to know how you'd classify yourself than for someone else to tell you, 'cause everyone and their mother has a different opinion of how it should be.
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You mean like the term MMO, yeah, I agree the majority can corrupt terms into meaningless.
Same with hardcore, means so many things to so many people, I like your simple definition, takes away a lot of debatable qualifiers that people typically try to use afterwards.
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Does casual refer to playtime?
i used to be this hardcore raider during vanilla WoW and before, and im now at a point where i game abit less (still alot tho) but im not involved in the raiding scene anymore. And if i do raid its when i want and on my terms.
Compared to what i used to do i pretty much casualised.
Hey internet strangers, am I casual? and what type of t-shirt should I wear tommorow?
No seriously play the damn game, who cares if you are casual or not. do what you enjoy doing.
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