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@Trion - Real 1.0 talk

jelliuzjelliuz Member UncommonPosts: 97

Hi there 

I'd like to start and link this:
http://archeagesource.com/topic/2481-real-talk-10/

There you can find all the things that were added by KR in the 1.0 version. I can't stress enough that people need to tell TRION NOT to add all this bullshit. Trion, if you add 50% of these things, the game will crash a horrible death and I'll be honest, I would be really sad because it's a great damn game ! 

I'll copy a couple of the worst things from that summary: 

-There are also new items required and used in crafting. More items are available on the NPC... This means less player made items.
-Buying fishing bait with some sort of lifescore => again, less player made items :-/ 
-There are now less trade packages you can make + simplification of the trading package system.
-No more gilda stars from trading runs :-/ instead we have to do DAILY QUESTS for gilda stars. Holy shit. 
-75% of mirage island is now purchased with ingame gold instead of gilda => I swear to god this will mean botters heaven.
-The 50->55 new zone is absolute peace zone. => why? :s (and i'm not a gank loving guy, but why would you disable pvp at top levels in a pvp heavy game?)
-Taxes payable by ingame shop => p2w
-gilda stars from daily quests with a max of 12/day => if this goes through , I sell my founder pack right now, I dont want the same damn world of warcraft experience where I login once a day for a year and do the same damn quests just because :-/
-Story quests stop giving XP: weird fucking change
-Buying Labor point potions with NO COOLDOWN for real money=> hahaha , please no :'( 
-XP gain from crafting has been reduced drastically => no more possibility to level from crafting => forced to do quests. 

These are just the worst things, there is others. After reading all this, I now understand why the game went from number 1 to number 40+ on the most played list in Korea. 

Trion, I beg you, don't ever let these changes enter this great game. Please don't. 
Discuss. 

ps: A little input or a guarantee from someone at trion would be great.

Also : I posted this over at the alpha forums so Trion notices it, I would appreciate as many people as possible showing them that these changes could potentially destroy what is currently an amazing game :) (only click the link if you are currently a alpha player)

http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?8456-TRION-Serious-Real-talk-about-1.0

*I know this has been discussed before but we need as much people as possible to tell them how we feel.

Comments

  • SirBalinSirBalin Member UncommonPosts: 1,300
    Originally posted by jelliuz

    Hi there 

    I'd like to start and link this:
    http://archeagesource.com/topic/2481-real-talk-10/

    There you can find all the things that were added by KR in the 1.0 version. I can't stress enough that people need to tell TRION NOT to add all this bullshit. Trion, if you add 50% of these things, the game will crash a horrible death and I'll be honest, I would be really sad because it's a great damn game ! 

    I'll copy a couple of the worst things from that summary: 

    -There are also new items required and used in crafting. More items are available on the NPC... This means less player made items.
    -Buying fishing bait with some sort of lifescore => again, less player made items :-/ 
    -There are now less trade packages you can make + simplification of the trading package system.
    -No more gilda stars from trading runs :-/ instead we have to do DAILY QUESTS for gilda stars. Holy shit. 
    -75% of mirage island is now purchased with ingame gold instead of gilda => I swear to god this will mean botters heaven.
    -The 50->55 new zone is absolute peace zone. => why? :s (and i'm not a gank loving guy, but why would you disable pvp at top levels in a pvp heavy game?)
    -Taxes payable by ingame shop => p2w
    -gilda stars from daily quests with a max of 12/day => if this goes through , I sell my founder pack right now, I dont want the same damn world of warcraft experience where I login once a day for a year and do the same damn quests just because :-/
    -Story quests stop giving XP: weird fucking change
    -Buying Labor point potions with NO COOLDOWN for real money=> hahaha , please no :'( 
    -XP gain from crafting has been reduced drastically => no more possibility to level from crafting => forced to do quests. 

    These are just the worst things, there is others. After reading all this, I now understand why the game went from number 1 to number 40+ on the most played list in Korea. 

    Trion, I beg you, don't ever let these changes enter this great game. Please don't. 
    Discuss. 

    ps: A little input or a guarantee from someone at trion would be great.

    Also : I posted this over at the alpha forums so Trion notices it, I would appreciate as many people as possible showing them that these changes could potentially destroy what is currently an amazing game :) (only click the link if you are currently a alpha player)

    http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?8456-TRION-Serious-Real-talk-about-1.0

    *I know this has been discussed before but we need as much people as possible to tell them how we feel.

    I have to agree with the QQ above...please dont do this...I will lose it if they do...doesn't even make sense.

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  • redgang1redgang1 Member Posts: 35
    A couple of the changes are mindless and stupid but you're exaggerating horribly. The only one that's actually game breaking is making the 50-55 a peace zone.
  • MakidianMakidian Member UncommonPosts: 208
    I think I threw up in my mouth a little.
  • jelliuzjelliuz Member UncommonPosts: 97

    You think taking away xp gain from crafting in a game like this is exaggerating ?

    You think introducing full gold shops on mirage island is exaggerating?

    ok, well, I guess you want another type of game right ? ;) 

     

    *You think giving people the option to buy 100 labor point potions without cooldown is exaggerating ? => the person that pays the most money will be the richest ingame dude ever and rule the markets.

  • An4thorAn4thor Member Posts: 524

    They already answered to this many many times. I won't link all the threads.

    Delphy coins won't be removed. Hidden quests will still give xp. These are the two most important and confirmed.

    Also loot will be split 80/20 when you lose a trade pack.

  • SojhinSojhin Member UncommonPosts: 226
    not a fan of much of anything from the 1.0 patch. 
  • jelliuzjelliuz Member UncommonPosts: 97
    Originally posted by An4thor

    They already answered to this many many times. I won't link all the threads.

    Delphy coins won't be removed. Hidden quests will still give xp. These are the two most important and confirmed.

    Also loot will be split 80/20 when you lose a trade pack.

    How could you think the others aren't important ? 

  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584

    and guys remember trion is only hosting the game and translating, anything else is comming from the devs, so I guess any complains you will need to send to thern directly.

     

    I'm guessing it will be a RFonline like history all over again....

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  • An4thorAn4thor Member Posts: 524
    Originally posted by jelliuz
    Originally posted by An4thor

    They already answered to this many many times. I won't link all the threads.

    Delphy coins won't be removed. Hidden quests will still give xp. These are the two most important and confirmed.

    Also loot will be split 80/20 when you lose a trade pack.

    How could you think the others aren't important ? 

    And where did i say they weren't? I said most important.

    Delphy coins are what makes trading important; if they go trading goes and with that everything else.

  • An4thorAn4thor Member Posts: 524
    Originally posted by alkarionlog

    and guys remember trion is only hosting the game and translating, anything else is comming from the devs, so I guess any complains you will need to send to thern directly.

     

    I'm guessing it will be a RFonline like history all over again....

    Trion has power to ask for changes and they already requested them.

  • Insurgent99Insurgent99 Member Posts: 58
    Yes, I too strongly urge Trion to leave shit alone!
  • andre369andre369 Member UncommonPosts: 970
    Originally posted by jelliuz
    Originally posted by An4thor

    They already answered to this many many times. I won't link all the threads.

    Delphy coins won't be removed. Hidden quests will still give xp. These are the two most important and confirmed.

    Also loot will be split 80/20 when you lose a trade pack.

    How could you think the others aren't important ? 

    Trade runs will give gilda cross continent. Gold costs at mirage island, might give incentive to do more trade runs other than for gilda. As is there is 0 reason to choose gold as the reward.

    Story quests will give XP, they said on a stream.

    No PvP in new zone, ye it sucks. 

    LP potions will have a cooldown, was also mentioned on a stream.

    Daily quests sure does suck.

    Less XP from crafting, can't remember if I've heard anything on this. But I feel like it's already slow enough compared to questing, any slower and it's not viable as you said.

  • cribettcribett Member UncommonPosts: 135
    I could see these changes coming .. IF they do go ahead in the west ill be hampering for a refund asap ... these changes go ahead there on a downward slope and more will follow.
  • TorcipTorcip Member UncommonPosts: 669
    Guys why are people still bitching about this, I thought for sure that Trion already told us that they have no intention on implementing everything from 1.0 they way it was implemented by XL.
  • MMOredfalconMMOredfalcon Member UncommonPosts: 167

    Maybe you should have read just one or two posts down on the same forum...

     
  • asmkm22asmkm22 Member Posts: 1,788

    As I've mentioned before, it's simply not going to be very feasible for Trion to cherry pick patches and changes.  They say they want to, but it's going to cause problems in the long run, where maybe a patch is released that Trion likes, but is built around a previous patch that was ignored.

    This IS a Korean MMO, and playing it means you will basically be getting that kind of experience.

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  • MothanosMothanos Member UncommonPosts: 1,910

    I heared Trion wont implement alot of stuff from 1.0 and had already spoken with XLGames about what to skip and what to implement to keep this mmo attractive for the west.
    That means more sandbox less themepark features.

    I have no idea how much seats they have on the table at XLgames to prevent features / changes , but so far Trion is doing a fantastic job.
    They need to hurry up tough this mmo needs to come out........NOW !!! :)

  • drakaenadrakaena Member UncommonPosts: 506
    Fwiw, after patch 1.0 AA end game consists of grinding instanced dailies.
  • asmkm22asmkm22 Member Posts: 1,788
    Originally posted by Mothanos

    I heared Trion wont implement alot of stuff from 1.0 and had already spoken with XLGames about what to skip and what to implement to keep this mmo attractive for the west.
    That means more sandbox less themepark features.

    I have no idea how much seats they have on the table at XLgames to prevent features / changes , but so far Trion is doing a fantastic job.
    They need to hurry up tough this mmo needs to come out........NOW !!! :)

     

    Just don't get your hopes up.  Developers don't generally like having to maintain two separate bases of code.  They very well may cater to the English market for a bit, with custom patches and stuff, but that will become unmaintainable at some point.

    You make me like charity

  • KarbleKarble Member UncommonPosts: 750

    I like some of the changes. I think there should be a way for a free to play person to choose when they want to maybe regen labor points at the same rate as a subscriber or get a bulk pack of labor for x amount of money. This way there can still be some competition between subscribers and free to players. There should be a cap to how much can be purchased at once or how much can be used per day.

     

    I am very curious about what exactly this 50 to 55 area will have in it. Endgame dungeons? Open world bosses? If it is not pvp oriented then it must be pve I would think.

    I would not agree at all to other changes that have been listed in this thread, but it sounds like Trion might have a handle on things.

  • StarIStarI Member UncommonPosts: 987
    Originally posted by jelliuz

    Hi there 

    I'd like to start and link this:
    http://archeagesource.com/topic/2481-real-talk-10/

    There you can find all the things that were added by KR in the 1.0 version. I can't stress enough that people need to tell TRION NOT to add all this bullshit. Trion, if you add 50% of these things, the game will crash a horrible death and I'll be honest, I would be really sad because it's a great damn game ! 

    I'll copy a couple of the worst things from that summary: 

    -There are also new items required and used in crafting. More items are available on the NPC... This means less player made items.
    -Buying fishing bait with some sort of lifescore => again, less player made items :-/ 
    -There are now less trade packages you can make + simplification of the trading package system.
    -No more gilda stars from trading runs :-/ instead we have to do DAILY QUESTS for gilda stars. Holy shit. 
    -75% of mirage island is now purchased with ingame gold instead of gilda => I swear to god this will mean botters heaven.
    -The 50->55 new zone is absolute peace zone. => why? :s (and i'm not a gank loving guy, but why would you disable pvp at top levels in a pvp heavy game?)
    -Taxes payable by ingame shop => p2w
    -gilda stars from daily quests with a max of 12/day => if this goes through , I sell my founder pack right now, I dont want the same damn world of warcraft experience where I login once a day for a year and do the same damn quests just because :-/
    -Story quests stop giving XP: weird fucking change
    -Buying Labor point potions with NO COOLDOWN for real money=> hahaha , please no :'( 
    -XP gain from crafting has been reduced drastically => no more possibility to level from crafting => forced to do quests. 

    These are just the worst things, there is others. After reading all this, I now understand why the game went from number 1 to number 40+ on the most played list in Korea. 

    Trion, I beg you, don't ever let these changes enter this great game. Please don't. 
    Discuss. 

    ps: A little input or a guarantee from someone at trion would be great.

    Also : I posted this over at the alpha forums so Trion notices it, I would appreciate as many people as possible showing them that these changes could potentially destroy what is currently an amazing game :) (only click the link if you are currently a alpha player)

    http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?8456-TRION-Serious-Real-talk-about-1.0

    *I know this has been discussed before but we need as much people as possible to tell them how we feel.

    I would like to say they are madly retarded idiots but  I know it's really just greed behind, an attempt to mainstream game in hope to increase popularity.

    If they do retarded stuff like this I'm going to want my money back and the game can rot for what I know. We won't see this before release tho as to get money from two gaming streams.

    This is bad news.

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