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Biggest turnoff in MMO´s
Lord.Bachus
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What does turn you of from MMO´s and makes you walk away from a game...
With me its when a game crashes to many times or has frequent disconnects...
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
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Lol, of course the game must be first "playable" in order to be able to play it...There are a lot of big turn offs, it's challenging to name the biggest. All I'll say when it comes to MMO's I'm far more tollerant than most around here. I can tollerate anime/cartonish graphics, 2d/3d, I can tollerate sci fi or fantasy IP's, I can tollerate tactical or action based combat. I can tollerate PvP or PvE only. I can tollerate instanced or fully open world. I can tollerate a lot. So ask this community what they can tollerate more than most out there.
Gameplay that is designed in a way making soloing beneficial compared to grouping. In my eyes that's simply horrible game design that takes away what I cherish in MMOs... or used to cherish in MMOs before this kinda became mainstream.
There is nothing wrong with a solo friendly MMO. Real life is one big multiplayer world, where players can do a lot of great things SOLO. But being forced to play the game and do things with certain individuals that are simply not available is far more harmful.
Recently making everyone anonymous like in GW2 or ESO. I still play ESO but removing name and guild tags makes me ask why bother to call it an MMO at all?
Also, brainless quest grind i.e. blabla my daughter got lost or my crops is being ruined by vermin's. Oversimplifying game mechanics (remember, in EQ even mob pulling required special technique?), effectively killing crafting i.e. making everyone capable in everything etc etc.
Problem is MMOs should last for years in theory but they last for a month or two these days because at one point you have done all the quests and the rest is brainless grind of dailies.
As I sais I still play ESO but GW2 and ESO are good examples what to avoid in making an MMO imho.
+Quests, quests quests..
+Finding myself playing alone in a multiplayer game.. because basically nothing requires cooperation...
+"Carebarism". my last time in wow was i going around lvl 20 contested territory looking for pvp(appropriate lvled character). I kicked some ass, and they kicked mine but when that was over i thought i could repair my gear at the neutral vendor in westfall but they removed him after cata apparently..Why?
Small things that arn't "uniform" to the direction they want to take the game and therefore remove annoy me.
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Endgame.
If the endgame is just raids or just pvp it pretty much kills the game for me.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I want raiders to have raids and PvPer's to have the battles and blood they crave, but the game needs more than either one of those 2 (or combination of them) to keep me entertained for the long run. Give me smaller scale adventures, epic quests, hidden lore and reasons to keep exploring. Sometimes you just don't want to raid or pvp, but you shouldn't be left with 'Roll an Alt' as your only option.
Housing and crafting also help fill this. Being able to craft furniture and housing objects and help guildies design their housing layout can be a fun break from the extremes of raiding.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I really hate that...
-Easy pulling
-No more trains, all mobs on a short leash
-no more death pennalties
Many of these things added to the community for sure
imagine what trains would have done in the ESo dungeons.. (on top of that, they would have solved botting)
But splitting up groups of mobs was an art in EQ, that most never mastered.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Anything that turns the MMO into a mini-game rather than a living/breathing alternate world.
Appealing to a player base that's different from the intended design strategy.
Terminology like "End Game" and "ease of access".
Game functions that don't make sense.
Agreed.
One of the best moments in EQ to get the heart pumping in a dungeon was when that other group went around a corner or down the other hallway - because you had no idea what sort of mess they would make. Instead you sat there in anticipation waiting for "TRAIN!" to appear in chat.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
The lack of reputation and accountability.
We used to have both and we need them back.
For me it's greed, I really hate when you have to pay for everything, Box, sub, expansion, cashshop, server transfers etc. This is something that I really hate.
In game then I think it would be those yellow !!!!!! over the head of a questgiver, I hate the whole concept of these quest hubs. I tryied to play Wildstar but the first thing a saw when I entered the game was just that and then force me to run around and do stuff just to get to the ???????? insteed.
I know this sounds idiotic but it's been this way for over 10 years now and I really don't want to see them ever again.
Too many task or quest good or bad.
Lack of playability or bad UI.
Vertical progression/levels are a semi turnoff.
Lack of interdependcy.
Too much junk loot and too many item upgrades.
Lack of character options for powers, classes and appearance.
Godz of War I call Thee
ok suppose if put 'turn ons' then it would be games that dont have below in some quantity
games must have
Character
uniqueness in characters, ie my build wont end up the same cooker cutter as every other bugger in my class.. think FF14 this was the worst game for lack of identity ive seen in an MMO in long time
Crafting / Industry
Game must have good quality industry, the days of having ore > making hammer are long gone, the game needs solid crafting back bone, can i build things that people will buy, which leads me onto
Market
Must have a good player driven market, im not happy when the items become worthless - see FF14 again, the idea that at some point in the games future EVERY toon will have EVERY craft maxed, and thus everything becomes worthless but this leads onto
Destroyable goods
to have the 2 above, goods must have a limited lifespan, either from pvp or death by another way - if you dont lose goods then you wont need to repurchase them
Consequences
I cannot stand games that hold your hand to a point that WoW used to, for eg, if your direct trading and you gave say 1 ore too much you could petiton it and the dev would give it you back... NOOOOOOO, if you fuck up, tuff.... its your problem, now im a strong eve advocate, and sometimes even the scamming gets me, but if your rich enough and dumb enough then survival of fittest lol
Fast travel
Whilst sometimes it can be frustrating, fast travel from one side of world > other in 5 secs gives a game less realism, ok so it should take hours /days / weeks but definatly a suitable time, so far from what i see ArchAge have this down to a tee..
Thats it for now, im sure there are plenty of other things
This post is all my opinion, but I welcome debate on anything i have put, however, personal slander / name calling belongs in game
where of course you're welcome to call me names im often found lounging about in EvE online.
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For me it is the fact that game developers and designers think that some stuff is cool when actually it is a piece of useless junk and when they ignore suggestions from best testers about same.
For example, weekly reset for raids? Really? I mean ok it was fine like 15 years ago....but now the main reason i do not play WoW/LOTRO/AoC/RIFT and many other great games is beacause i do NOT want to wait a fricking week to be able to play the raid and then i "might" see item i wanted for like months just to lose it on a roll.
Or when they design crap like in GW2 with no holy trinity and then every boss is kiting and running around getting downed in 1/2 hits, or stack in 1 bugged spot where boss get stuck into the wall and then just beat the bejesus out of it. Or making Legendary weapon to be piece of junk when compared to exotic/ascended which is easy obtainable....only "legendary" thing is the grind for mats/gold to craft/buy it.
ESO was last game i bought....until i see some MAJOR improvement in mmo world i am not even gonna bother.....they just copy->paste same old junk over and over with 1 or 2 new ideas and call it new mmo, pack it, sell it and then do the epic fail in few months...
Disconnections, freezes, crashes, lag, and bots = TESO.
Yeah that is ESO perfectly described....i hope they will fix all this stuff in few months...if not im not gonna resub.