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This update added more bugs than the ones fixed

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  • phoonzangphoonzang Member UncommonPosts: 22
    After the hotfix I can not even log in.  Tech support has given my case to the hire ups to check out.  A lot of people can not log in because of time out then error 301 issues.  So yeah the patch kind of screwed things up.

    This whole conversation is getting weird ... Just plain weird

  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,439

    Clearly there is a disconnect between players here, which is why I suggested there might be something different about our playing environment; Pc's and so on to explain this. I and other posters do seem to be extraordinarily lucky, as we have not seen one issue, I have spoken to guildmates who have not seen anything, so I have to come to the conclusion that only a minority are having problems.

    There was a new patch today I only hope that will help you. No doubt we will have another thread by someone else who thinks todays patch has made it worse, who has played for two hours and somehow managed to experience about 50 issues with the game.

    EDIT: Did not see the post above me, my prediction nearly came true. :)

  • Bad.dogBad.dog Member UncommonPosts: 1,131
    Originally posted by Scot

    Clearly there is a disconnect between players here, which is why I suggested there might be something different about our playing environment; Pc's and so on to explain this. I and other posters do seem to be extraordinarily lucky, as we have not seen one issue, I have spoken to guildmates who have not seen anything, so I have to come to the conclusion that only a minority are having problems.

    There was a new patch today I only hope that will help you. No doubt we will have another thread by someone else who thinks todays patch has made it worse, who has played for two hours and somehow managed to experience about 50 issues with the game.

    EDIT: Did not see the post above me, my prediction nearly came true. :)

    I had my first crash since Beta the other day ....I must be one of the lucky ones that's never had any issues unless one crash in 7 weeks is game breaking

  • xpsyncxpsync Member EpicPosts: 1,854
    Originally posted by alexhpy98721

    This update added more bugs than the ones fixed

     

    Yep!

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  • HachlathHachlath Member UncommonPosts: 55
    Originally posted by Naral

    I was having a ton of fun with this game until this patch. I now lose quests, (my journal lost all but three quests, just poof, gone, and they are not retakable) rubber band both in lag terms and periodically just get sent back to the nearest wayshrine for no reason whatsoever. Just walking along, then boom, I get ported to a wayshrine.

    Congratulations, Zeni, you just sold another copy of Wildstar.

    Lost quests, I have enormous lag, Each time I go to Dagerfall I'm disconnected from the game, dunno why, ... and noticed bugs, I had a rollback and saw Bots everywhere. Game freezes, crashes... Had to reboot my... IMAC twice ! 

    My char disappeared on the textures on Dagerfall's tavern. Remains me good old days of VANGUARD.

    Canceled my sub, not for WDS but for... don't know, maybe FFXIV . Or coming back to Lotro, serious game by serious team.

     

    This update added more bugs than the ones fixed

     

    This !

    Canceled my sub, deleted the game, it's over. Too many bugs, rollbacks, bots and lag for my taste. 

  • RosenthorneRosenthorne Member UncommonPosts: 94

    "worst Patch of his Life"

    Really? Either he is very young, or he hasn't played many mmo's....or he has an extremely sort and selective memory.

    Even in the business world, I am in charge of IT software rollouts in my company, Upgrades them need smaller patches to fix the bugs that testing didn't find. and this is with software worth tens of thousands. We have all experienced it with driver updates, Outlook updates etc..

    Personally I played and experienced 1 rollback of about 5 minutes play, and that was pretty much it. Mind you Australians are used to a little lag...we just suck it up..and learn to compensate lol.

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  • Moar61Moar61 Member UncommonPosts: 260

    So far so good for me.

     

    I must be one of the few blessed that has been almost entirely unaffected by these horrible and numerous ESO bugs that are out there

  • phoonzangphoonzang Member UncommonPosts: 22
    Hopefully the reboot monday will alot of the time out issues.  Maybe they should add content on mondays or tuesdays so they can be ready for the weekend, just saying.

    This whole conversation is getting weird ... Just plain weird

  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,439
    If you are getting fed up with criticism about TESO, don't worry the content locusts will be in Wildstar soon, give them two weeks and that MMO will be crap too. :D
  • QuagliaQuaglia Member Posts: 60

    I had memory leaks and few random crashes saturday, when I first logged after the patch. Sunday morning the laucher dowloaded (I guess) a fix and the game was stable and perfectly playable again.

    I play a Nightblade and the problem with abilities that stop to work occured me just once in a whole weekend after the patch, before it happened a once at combat (more or less),

    I had few issues with some quest bosses (the Alchemist in Deshaan mainly) one shotting me. I have still to understand if it's something wrong with the game or me being a noob.

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    I think most of the problems relate to their version of the HERO engine....  

    And the fact that they dont have a good open testing pollicy...  To many fails slip past their testing procedures..

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • Astro6Astro6 Member UncommonPosts: 247

    There is a load of new bugs i have never seen before the patch and they are REALLY bad when you die the mobs keep attacking you and you die again and again and again has happened to me over a dozen times this weekend.

    Cost a fortune in equipment repairs as each time i died and no i did not rez i fell over got the blurry death screen effects but mobs would not stop attacking my hit points had gone in the minuses and wrapped around.

    Also there is phasing problems with mobs i end up getting killed by invisible mobs only way to fix is to log out and back in, i am playing till my sub runs out as i have cancelled my sub too many major bugs every patch gets worse not better.

     

  • SilverBOUSilverBOU Member UncommonPosts: 1
    I can't comment on bugs because I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PATCH SINCE THE UPDATE!  I get to 6% and it stops.  Every time.  This is nuts.
  • ohioastroohioastro Member UncommonPosts: 534
    Originally posted by Scot
    If you are getting fed up with criticism about TESO, don't worry the content locusts will be in Wildstar soon, give them two weeks and that MMO will be crap too. :D

    I'm just getting a bizarro world experience on this forum, with people describing a game that has *nothing* to do with the one that I'm playing.  All of these claims that the sky is falling, bugs bots galore blah blah blah.

    And I log in, all of the hundreds of people in multiple trading guilds log in, I watch global chat...and it's almost nothing. 

    More to the point, when there are issues that get fixed, people keep posting the same complaints as if they are fresh.  There was a memory leak for some - which was patched out.  Ditto the difficulty bump for some VR mobs and some EXP exploits.  They fixed bots and players camping dungeon bosses and we get people still posting about things that stopped happening weeks ago.

    It's one thing to dislike a game - fine, tastes vary.  It's something else to chain together this alternate universe version and present it as the norm for a game.

  • grimalgrimal Member UncommonPosts: 2,935

    The game does have a lot of bugs that pop up in the worst places.

    That doesnt irritate me as much as the whole game design.  It really just feels like a single player game with some very limited multiplayer support tagged on.  I've lasted two months of sub time, but at this point I am cancelling.  Not worth $15 every month to me,.

  • ArcheAge2014ArcheAge2014 Member UncommonPosts: 135
    Originally posted by ohioastro
    Originally posted by Scot
    If you are getting fed up with criticism about TESO, don't worry the content locusts will be in Wildstar soon, give them two weeks and that MMO will be crap too. :D

    I'm just getting a bizarro world experience on this forum, with people describing a game that has *nothing* to do with the one that I'm playing.  All of these claims that the sky is falling, bugs bots galore blah blah blah.

    And I log in, all of the hundreds of people in multiple trading guilds log in, I watch global chat...and it's almost nothing. 

    More to the point, when there are issues that get fixed, people keep posting the same complaints as if they are fresh.  There was a memory leak for some - which was patched out.  Ditto the difficulty bump for some VR mobs and some EXP exploits.  They fixed bots and players camping dungeon bosses and we get people still posting about things that stopped happening weeks ago.

    It's one thing to dislike a game - fine, tastes vary.  It's something else to chain together this alternate universe version and present it as the norm for a game.

     what the hell people pointing to bugs with youtubes, and live stream. even angry joe shows all the glitches and flaws of the eso game review. Its real bugs not some imagined up bugs and glitches. why dont you man up and admit it? Your in denial, also there are massive bots in ublic dungeons and some in vr, there are youtubes showing it.

  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    Originally posted by ArcheAge2014
    Originally posted by ohioastro
    Originally posted by Scot
    If you are getting fed up with criticism about TESO, don't worry the content locusts will be in Wildstar soon, give them two weeks and that MMO will be crap too. :D

    I'm just getting a bizarro world experience on this forum, with people describing a game that has *nothing* to do with the one that I'm playing.  All of these claims that the sky is falling, bugs bots galore blah blah blah.

    And I log in, all of the hundreds of people in multiple trading guilds log in, I watch global chat...and it's almost nothing. 

    More to the point, when there are issues that get fixed, people keep posting the same complaints as if they are fresh.  There was a memory leak for some - which was patched out.  Ditto the difficulty bump for some VR mobs and some EXP exploits.  They fixed bots and players camping dungeon bosses and we get people still posting about things that stopped happening weeks ago.

    It's one thing to dislike a game - fine, tastes vary.  It's something else to chain together this alternate universe version and present it as the norm for a game.

     what the hell people pointing to bugs with youtubes, and live stream. even angry joe shows all the glitches and flaws of the eso game review. Its real bugs not some imagined up bugs and glitches. why dont you man up and admit it? Your in denial, also there are massive bots in ublic dungeons and some in vr, there are youtubes showing it.

    I think what he is saying is that ESO had a lot of those issues, but people are still bring them up even after they had been fixed, as if they are "still issues". if that is the case, yes that is stupid.

  • artemisentr4artemisentr4 Member UncommonPosts: 1,431
    Originally posted by doodphace
    Originally posted by ArcheAge2014
    Originally posted by ohioastro
    Originally posted by Scot
    If you are getting fed up with criticism about TESO, don't worry the content locusts will be in Wildstar soon, give them two weeks and that MMO will be crap too. :D

    I'm just getting a bizarro world experience on this forum, with people describing a game that has *nothing* to do with the one that I'm playing.  All of these claims that the sky is falling, bugs bots galore blah blah blah.

    And I log in, all of the hundreds of people in multiple trading guilds log in, I watch global chat...and it's almost nothing. 

    More to the point, when there are issues that get fixed, people keep posting the same complaints as if they are fresh.  There was a memory leak for some - which was patched out.  Ditto the difficulty bump for some VR mobs and some EXP exploits.  They fixed bots and players camping dungeon bosses and we get people still posting about things that stopped happening weeks ago.

    It's one thing to dislike a game - fine, tastes vary.  It's something else to chain together this alternate universe version and present it as the norm for a game.

     what the hell people pointing to bugs with youtubes, and live stream. even angry joe shows all the glitches and flaws of the eso game review. Its real bugs not some imagined up bugs and glitches. why dont you man up and admit it? Your in denial, also there are massive bots in ublic dungeons and some in vr, there are youtubes showing it.

    I think what he is saying is that ESO had a lot of those issues, but people are still bring them up even after they had been fixed, as if they are "still issues". if that is the case, yes that is stupid.

    I think a lot of the bugs may have been worse for those who play a ton of hours every day. I just don't have the time, so I am only in the 3rd going on the 4th zone. I have seen very few bugs that caused me to have problems. The worst was a quest that wouldn't continue until they patched the game a day or two later. I just did other quests and came back to it. No big deal.

     

    I do still see bots, but no where near the way it was. They are gone from the quick dungeons. I see devs out banning while I am playing. I did see a chain for possible bots last night though. There were 5 identical players following 1 real player it looked like. They would attack anything they ran by. It didn't cause any problems with my questing, so not a big deal for me. But they are still around. Just not as bad.

     

    Not saying bugs don't exist, but it isn't as bad for many players as some want everyone to believe. I and a few others here and most in my guild can attest to that.

    “How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?”
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,439
    Originally posted by artemisentr4
    Originally posted by doodphace
    Originally posted by ArcheAge2014
    Originally posted by ohioastro
    Originally posted by Scot
    If you are getting fed up with criticism about TESO, don't worry the content locusts will be in Wildstar soon, give them two weeks and that MMO will be crap too. :D

    I'm just getting a bizarro world experience on this forum, with people describing a game that has *nothing* to do with the one that I'm playing.  All of these claims that the sky is falling, bugs bots galore blah blah blah.

    And I log in, all of the hundreds of people in multiple trading guilds log in, I watch global chat...and it's almost nothing. 

    More to the point, when there are issues that get fixed, people keep posting the same complaints as if they are fresh.  There was a memory leak for some - which was patched out.  Ditto the difficulty bump for some VR mobs and some EXP exploits.  They fixed bots and players camping dungeon bosses and we get people still posting about things that stopped happening weeks ago.

    It's one thing to dislike a game - fine, tastes vary.  It's something else to chain together this alternate universe version and present it as the norm for a game.

     what the hell people pointing to bugs with youtubes, and live stream. even angry joe shows all the glitches and flaws of the eso game review. Its real bugs not some imagined up bugs and glitches. why dont you man up and admit it? Your in denial, also there are massive bots in ublic dungeons and some in vr, there are youtubes showing it.

    I think what he is saying is that ESO had a lot of those issues, but people are still bring them up even after they had been fixed, as if they are "still issues". if that is the case, yes that is stupid.

    I think a lot of the bugs may have been worse for those who play a ton of hours every day. I just don't have the time, so I am only in the 3rd going on the 4th zone. I have seen very few bugs that caused me to have problems. The worst was a quest that wouldn't continue until they patched the game a day or two later. I just did other quests and came back to it. No big deal.

     

    I do still see bots, but no where near the way it was. They are gone from the quick dungeons. I see devs out banning while I am playing. I did see a chain for possible bots last night though. There were 5 identical players following 1 real player it looked like. They would attack anything they ran by. It didn't cause any problems with my questing, so not a big deal for me. But they are still around. Just not as bad.

     

    Not saying bugs don't exist, but it isn't as bad for many players as some want everyone to believe. I and a few others here and most in my guild can attest to that.

     "even angry joe shows all the glitches and flaws of the eso game review"

    You mean the angry joe review from Apr 22, 2014? The one done over a month ago? Yes that is still totally relevant because in the parallel world you live in there have been no patches and no bug fixes. The bots (only glitch you mentioned) are not in public dungeons anymore and there are fewer than what there were. And do they even effect gameplay? No.

    Are you still going to be talking about bugs that don't exist any more next year?

  • alterfenixalterfenix Member UncommonPosts: 370
    Originally posted by Scot
    Originally posted by artemisentr4
    Originally posted by doodphace
    Originally posted by ArcheAge2014
    Originally posted by ohioastro
    Originally posted by Scot
    If you are getting fed up with criticism about TESO, don't worry the content locusts will be in Wildstar soon, give them two weeks and that MMO will be crap too. :D

    I'm just getting a bizarro world experience on this forum, with people describing a game that has *nothing* to do with the one that I'm playing.  All of these claims that the sky is falling, bugs bots galore blah blah blah.

    And I log in, all of the hundreds of people in multiple trading guilds log in, I watch global chat...and it's almost nothing. 

    More to the point, when there are issues that get fixed, people keep posting the same complaints as if they are fresh.  There was a memory leak for some - which was patched out.  Ditto the difficulty bump for some VR mobs and some EXP exploits.  They fixed bots and players camping dungeon bosses and we get people still posting about things that stopped happening weeks ago.

    It's one thing to dislike a game - fine, tastes vary.  It's something else to chain together this alternate universe version and present it as the norm for a game.

     what the hell people pointing to bugs with youtubes, and live stream. even angry joe shows all the glitches and flaws of the eso game review. Its real bugs not some imagined up bugs and glitches. why dont you man up and admit it? Your in denial, also there are massive bots in ublic dungeons and some in vr, there are youtubes showing it.

    I think what he is saying is that ESO had a lot of those issues, but people are still bring them up even after they had been fixed, as if they are "still issues". if that is the case, yes that is stupid.

    I think a lot of the bugs may have been worse for those who play a ton of hours every day. I just don't have the time, so I am only in the 3rd going on the 4th zone. I have seen very few bugs that caused me to have problems. The worst was a quest that wouldn't continue until they patched the game a day or two later. I just did other quests and came back to it. No big deal.

     

    I do still see bots, but no where near the way it was. They are gone from the quick dungeons. I see devs out banning while I am playing. I did see a chain for possible bots last night though. There were 5 identical players following 1 real player it looked like. They would attack anything they ran by. It didn't cause any problems with my questing, so not a big deal for me. But they are still around. Just not as bad.

     

    Not saying bugs don't exist, but it isn't as bad for many players as some want everyone to believe. I and a few others here and most in my guild can attest to that.

     "even angry joe shows all the glitches and flaws of the eso game review"

    You mean the angry joe review from Apr 22, 2014? The one done over a month ago? Yes that is still totally relevant because in the parallel world you live in there have been no patches and no bug fixes. The bots (only glitch you mentioned) are not in public dungeons anymore and there are fewer than what there were. And do they even effect gameplay? No.

    Are you still going to be talking about bugs that don't exist any more next year?

    Few questions. have you recently participated in any keep siege? Have you actually participated in any group content after patch 1.1.2? Have you actually started the game after patch to se what they have done to graphics engine? It takes more than doing some solo quests for an hour or two but yeah, game is still heavily in beta stage. And one more thing, it is true that there are less bots, won't deny that.

    Also less goldspam but please, don't say it is all thanks to Zenimax. The other reason is that people now tend to login less and less frequently than they used to (started to happen like a week or two ago, noticed that?). No conspiracy theory, no repeating something heard whatsoever. Just an observation based on all my guilds that not so long ago where less and less people are online at the same time - and as I said week or two ago it was not that noticeable.

  • NellusNellus Member UncommonPosts: 247

    Purely anecdotal, but an update nevertheless: Out of the 8 people I speak with regularly that are playing ESO 7 had what I would term serious issues. Three were experiencing repeated rollbacks. Those seem to be over. Two were having problems patching and/or logging in. One is in the clear, the other can't access the game. The other two have the faction achievement issue, which has gone unresolved from what I'm told. I'm glad I'm not playing, because I'm not huge on alts and I wouldn't do anything on my main until the achievement thing got sorted out.

    Overall it's down to 3/8 still having some sort of trouble, but only one that can't play. They did a good job addressing the rollback and VR difficulty issues, timely and such. Hopefully those who can't log-in have their problems resolved soon, and then they can focus on the achivements - mostly because the long weekend nearly got me to resub, so I'd like my achievements (VR8) to be there if I log in. I'm selfish like that.

    - Nellus

  • AzmodeusAzmodeus Member UncommonPosts: 268

    Almost VR7 and still having fun.  Still the best MMO, and I have played them all.  I have a few minor bugs pop up but nothing major.  When you are having fun and support a game from a first time MMO company you will not bitch, moan quit and ask for refunds after 100 hours played. 

     

    Feel bad for Wildstar because the locusts will be hitting hard soon.

      OMG I am Ancient!
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,439

    afterfenix, unlike those who only post to be negative about TESO and never reply to the questions we pose them ((Archage2014 for example, the clue to what he is up to is in his name :) )) I will answer yours.

    You seem to be suggesting that if you start the game after the patch you will "see what they have done to graphics engine" Can you tell be what they have done, I have been playing every day since and the engine seems fine?

    I have not participated in a keep siege since the patch, I mentioned this on another thread banging on about bugs, it is not something I have been hiding. I have done some PvP I would describe as medium scale, but nothing large. I have been in and completed four group dungeons since the patch and quest grouped for a several hours. I have seen nothing, not one issue. No one in my guild to my knowledge has had a single issue.

    "Also less goldspam but please, don't say it is all thanks to Zenimax. The other reason is that people now tend to login less and less frequently than they used to." afterfenix, if players were logging on less there would simply be more gold spam mails for them to deal with when they did log on. The fact the number is reducing is a result of action taken against them, by both players reporting and Zenimax doing something about it.

    Slacker mentioned that seven out of eight people he knew had serious issues, three days later only three now have an issue. For me these issues do not seem to be even happening but I am glad they are being resolved for those who have had them.

  • ButeoRegalisButeoRegalis Member UncommonPosts: 594
    Originally posted by Azmodeus
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    Feel bad for Wildstar because the locusts will be hitting hard soon.

    Just to straighten you and scot out -- content locusts will complain if there isn't, or they feel there isn't, enough for them to do once they have either burnt through all content or hit level cap.

    If you paid attention complaints about ESO so far have been about bugs, exploits and bots, not that there isn't anything to do at level cap.

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  • BigbooBigboo Member Posts: 201

    Only issue I had after the patch was memory leaks, and was kicked out a couple of times. But it seems to have been solved now. No other bugs, dont see that many bots either, tonite I havent seen one. They have some GM they call Sir Killabot that are doing a good job.

    In fact I feel that the game is more quicker in response now, maybe just a feeling. I will resub, havent done all the things there is to do.

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