The simple fact that you're posting and asking about Wild Star, suggests that you're interested and need more info to push you over the edge and buy the game. OP, if you've read through all the responses, it further cements your desire to play. My suggestion... DONT play it, you're looking for hype, you need to be pushed into a decision. Stay away from Wild Star... imo you'll regret it, and you'll eventually buy the game. For now, sit back, watch the reviews come in, wonder what is going on, and be as fickle as you can before succumbing to your own personal built up sense of hype that you require. Otherwise, well, you know... Suck it up and jump in.
It took 4 replies to OP to start bashing ESO in a WIldstar thread. Haven't you guys spewed enough venom in the ESO forum already?
I think the ESO bashing was a by-product of a certain poster stating WS "Should be a F2P game" around post number 3 - Same poster is known for their incredibly high predictions and praise for ESO (A game that I personally own, like and play but feel out of both titles, ESO would be the game that would fit the F2P bill more than WS does by a large margin).
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Xssiv: I think it is you. And not in a bad way.
You noticed a pattern of grabbing the latest and greatest only to find yourself going back to your old routine shortly after. You realized this wasn't doing you any good and probably figured out you were better of waiting and saving the money. The game will always be there and maybe sometime down the road you might give it a shot.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Like you, I've always inevitably succumbed to the hype train at the 11th hour in the past.
WAR, AoC, Aion, Rift, SWTOR, Guild Wars 2... the list pitifully goes on, I'm sure.
When TESO rolled out, I played the beta. I realized this was WAR. AoC. Aion. Rift. Guild Wars 2. It's 70% WoW, 20% Innovation and 10% Bugs/Glitches. I play a more polished version of this game every time I log onto my still active WoW subscription... and, if I bought it, I'd be bored for 2 weeks and quit, realizing I'd just given my silent nod for developers to keep pumping out these 3/4 baked WoW clones.
When it came time to put my money on the table for TESO, I finally realized enough is enough.
I love Bethesda (and know they are bankrolling Zenimax) and I'm a big fan of Carbine as a company, but I'm finally sending that message that should have started with WAR back in 2008. I've had it with playing the same game for 10 years.
No more WoW Clones. I don't care if people list a few things Wildstar's doing to improve the World of Warcraft model... I'm sick of the model. And I really hope this game bombs as a result, so the industry will be forced to evolve.
That's where I'm at right now.
Game Developers: Give me a reason to leave World of Warcraft... don't give me a lesser polished version of World of Warcraft with a couple of bells and whistles. That's no longer worth my time.
Sounds like you are just done with MMOs.
I'm done with MMOs that take WoW, add a bell and whistle, and call it a day, yes. That's no longer good enough for me.
I'm waiting for the next WoW - the one that does to WoW what WoW did to Everquest: evolve the genre.
Ironically, I'm dying to play Everquest Next... because that, at least, looks like it's trying to repay the favor and go for something completely different. Jokes on me if I'm wrong, but I'd rather support a company that's at least trying to get us past this rut we're at rather than endorse more WoW clones by paying the box price.
If you're waiting for the next milestone in the genre, you're waiting a long time. WoW was a fluke, you may as well support a game that is feature complete and fun. Innovation is an iterative process, and if you're not willing to support a game that is actually doing just that, then you're not helping the genre progress towards the goal. WoW was in the same position years ago - adding a few things that EQ had. And Wildstar is releasing with all of the polish that took WoW years to attain. Maybe you're just done with MMOs. It's unrealistic to hate a game for having the staples of genre - quests, raids, dungeons, etc. - because if it didn't, people would be complaining it didn't have content to keep their guilds interested.
Blizzard didn't ask for charity. They simply produced a revolutionary game and people bought 12 million copies over a few years. Fluke? I disagree. Blizzard has been producing revolutionary games its entire existence. Warcraft. Starcraft. Diablo.
I'm not going to buy games that do nothing for me to "support the genre". And no, I'm not done with MMOs. I'm still playing WoW a few hours a week... and I'm still eager to try MMOs that look like they aren't just copying my World of Warcraft folder and changing 20% of the files. (IE: Everquest Next).
I don't hate a game for having quests, raids and dungeons. I hate a game when they might as well have lifted 80% of these quest, raids and dungeons from a game that's 10 years old.
I'm not tired of MMOs. I'm tired of the same MMO. Over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Then what would different look like, please elaborate?
Op, you have to stop complaining and use your head for a second. Think a bout it logically, a game that has no publicity, before the game is released is generally the game you should get - because instead of spending millions on advertising like a certain horibad game, that goes by the name of elder scro... Im forbidden to say the rest, because of how it destroyed itself. Wildstar on the other hand, actually spends there budget appropriately, not in thousand of hours of pathetic voice acting, and marketing. Which makes Wildstar, an absolutely awesome game.
I am not going to buy the game but I think they did a great job showing gameplay footage for a bout 6 months now so they don't need to hype the game that mush it speaks for itself and all the beta weekends were great marketing.
unfortunately the game is at the wrong time people don't want games like these any more.
Originally posted by Prhyme What does marketing have to do with weather or not it's a good game?
OP was saying he bought every MMO out there, always ending up disappointed. Now he'll skip WildStar and wonders, did Carbine just not sell it well enough to warm his deadened soul, or has he lost all hope of ever finding THAT game.
Sounds like he might need a break from MMOs. Maybe try a MOBA, FPS or an RPG?
Like you, I've always inevitably succumbed to the hype train at the 11th hour in the past.
WAR, AoC, Aion, Rift, SWTOR, Guild Wars 2... the list pitifully goes on, I'm sure.
When TESO rolled out, I played the beta. I realized this was WAR. AoC. Aion. Rift. Guild Wars 2. It's 70% WoW, 20% Innovation and 10% Bugs/Glitches. I play a more polished version of this game every time I log onto my still active WoW subscription... and, if I bought it, I'd be bored for 2 weeks and quit, realizing I'd just given my silent nod for developers to keep pumping out these 3/4 baked WoW clones.
When it came time to put my money on the table for TESO, I finally realized enough is enough.
I love Bethesda (and know they are bankrolling Zenimax) and I'm a big fan of Carbine as a company, but I'm finally sending that message that should have started with WAR back in 2008. I've had it with playing the same game for 10 years.
No more WoW Clones. I don't care if people list a few things Wildstar's doing to improve the World of Warcraft model... I'm sick of the model. And I really hope this game bombs as a result, so the industry will be forced to evolve.
That's where I'm at right now.
Game Developers: Give me a reason to leave World of Warcraft... don't give me a lesser polished version of World of Warcraft with a couple of bells and whistles. That's no longer worth my time.
Sounds like you are just done with MMOs.
Sounds like he's most definitely done with MMOs! Im sure you had a fun ride though.
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So, in short... It's you.
I think the ESO bashing was a by-product of a certain poster stating WS "Should be a F2P game" around post number 3 - Same poster is known for their incredibly high predictions and praise for ESO (A game that I personally own, like and play but feel out of both titles, ESO would be the game that would fit the F2P bill more than WS does by a large margin).
On Topic However:
Xssiv: I think it is you. And not in a bad way.
You noticed a pattern of grabbing the latest and greatest only to find yourself going back to your old routine shortly after. You realized this wasn't doing you any good and probably figured out you were better of waiting and saving the money. The game will always be there and maybe sometime down the road you might give it a shot.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Then what would different look like, please elaborate?
I am not going to buy the game but I think they did a great job showing gameplay footage for a bout 6 months now so they don't need to hype the game that mush it speaks for itself and all the beta weekends were great marketing.
unfortunately the game is at the wrong time people don't want games like these any more.
a view years back it would have been great.
OP was saying he bought every MMO out there, always ending up disappointed. Now he'll skip WildStar and wonders, did Carbine just not sell it well enough to warm his deadened soul, or has he lost all hope of ever finding THAT game.
Sounds like he might need a break from MMOs. Maybe try a MOBA, FPS or an RPG?
Sounds like he's most definitely done with MMOs! Im sure you had a fun ride though.