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WildStar: 5 Things It Does Better Than Any Other MMO

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    They're already declaring it's endgame better than any other MMO's?

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  • strykr619strykr619 Member UncommonPosts: 287
    Originally posted by Distopia
    They're already declaring it's endgame better than any other MMO's?

    I've been raiding since Everquest in 1999, seen its progression over the years, (eq,eq2,wow,rift,swtor etc games with PvE raiding) and Wildstar is going to change it up. 

    I still don't like some of the art style but man the gameplay is pretty damn good. 

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by strykr619
    Originally posted by Distopia
    They're already declaring it's endgame better than any other MMO's?

    I've been raiding since Everquest in 1999, seen its progression over the years, (eq,eq2,wow,rift,swtor etc games with PvE raiding) and Wildstar is going to change it up. 

    I still don't like some of the art style but man the gameplay is pretty damn good. 

    Heh some of us don't view raiding as a good endgame for an MMO :). It's a pretty bold statement to call it's endgame the bestest ever. Especially for a week old game.

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  • CopypasterinoCopypasterino Member Posts: 66

    Pretty nice read. Indeed game is good. Haters gonna hate, lovers gonna play. 

  • CleverjackCleverjack Member UncommonPosts: 72
    It was a fun article, but I don't see raids as the endgame content for me. I'm up for rated battlegrounds and some warplot action.

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  • Jimmy562Jimmy562 Member UncommonPosts: 1,158
    Can't agree it does player housing better than any other MMO, SWG still takes this crown with ease for me.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Jimmy562
    Can't agree it does player housing better than any other MMO, SWG still takes this crown with ease for me.

    TBH SWG tops most of those categories for me except combat, that would probably be AOC.

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  • SammuelSKSammuelSK Member Posts: 24
    Originally posted by strykr619
    Originally posted by Distopia
    They're already declaring it's endgame better than any other MMO's?

    I've been raiding since Everquest in 1999, seen its progression over the years, (eq,eq2,wow,rift,swtor etc games with PvE raiding) and Wildstar is going to change it up. 

    I still don't like some of the art style but man the gameplay is pretty damn good. 

    How exactly? All it did was make everyone an AOE class, throw giant indicators on the ground and bring back raiding that Blizzard with its 11 million customers realized was not worth investing further in (40 mans).

    Guess everyone old is new again? Or something?

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    See if i can remeber what those 5 were.

    1 Housing.

    I watched the dev stream that was showing off housing and it was terrible ,i mean EQ2 a much older game blows the doors off this.Now to be fair the dev team did show one of the devs homes and it was awful,they could have shown a much better house ,but hey they thought it was great to show and they were wrong.

    2 Combat

    There combat has already been done in FFXIV and imo done better since it adds more than just the red carpet treatment.IMO it is not a better combat anyhow because a game like FFXI"imo the master of combat design" already had a wide diversity of combat structures that were NEVER visible,you had to learn your foes through trial and error .

    3 Mounts

    This is imo a trick learned from Blizzard,yes mounts are a nice touch to any game,we all love them but they have to look good.The hover boards for example look real cheap ,yet i saw a lot fo people using them.The actual quality of textures and clarity makes mopst everything look bad.

    4 ADD-ON support

    This is actually a black mark on a game because it says the developer did not put in the effort to make it viable AND it ALWAYS makes gaming easier,less effort and many times borderline playing the game for you.You are SUPPOSE to become a good player on your OWN merits over time,not based on how many different add-ons you can grab.

    5 End -game

    I find it hard to believe so many missed out on the most challenging combat system ever in FFXi.FFXI has challenging combat throughout EVERY area of the game,NOT just in end game mode and not just on bosses.Getting through end game content in FFXI has always been an extreme challenging chore ,i doubt any game will ever surpass it and definitely not WS.I say this because i have played hundreds of these games and only seen a small handful of ideas that FFXI has not already used in the past,yet other developers are just now beginning to use,so far too late to surpass FFXI on any challenging accolades.

     

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  • AwDiddumsAwDiddums Member UncommonPosts: 416
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by Jimmy562
    Can't agree it does player housing better than any other MMO, SWG still takes this crown with ease for me.

    TBH SWG tops most of those categories for me except combat, that would probably be AOC.

    After having the chance recently of going back to SWG ( I can't mention how as I got a warning last time, but if your a die hard SWG vet you'll have already found out how ) I can say that it was just not the same anymore, after a couple of days I was glad to eventually put this game to rest.

    Wildstar is a breath of fresh air, I can't comment on the endgame aspect, but what I have experienced so far has me clamouring for more each time I log in. For a newly released MMO this game has more content/features than many mature MMO's.

    I just hope they don't drop the ball, and that new content/features/bug fixes are in plentiful supply.

    One downside is that I'm a founder for Landmark, the game has taken a major backseat now, and it just feels so empty now that I've been playing a game that is just packed to the rafters with things to do, what will my view be of EQ Next when that eventually arrives, will I have been spoilt by Wildstar and expect all future MMO's to be as packed as this one is.

     

  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977

    1. Instanced housing...dont care about it, nice sideattraction but who cares if its instanced?

    2. I want my games addon free so its a big big -

    3. Mounts - cool, definitely can live without them as GW2 prooved "....a new monut *throw it in the sack with dozens of other mounts...yawn*

    4. Combat - nice but much better things around, be it you want trinity or not

    5. Endgame - instanced raiding, instanced dungeons, instanced PvP,instanced housing, instanced advetures, instanced solo....is this even a MMO? nope, lobby game. And a "hardcore" raiding at that lol

     

    The only thing WS is better than other MMOs is better at being cartooney.

  • SaluteSalute Member UncommonPosts: 795
    Originally posted by Malabooga

    1. Instanced housing...dont care about it, nice sideattraction but who cares if its instanced?

    2. I want my games addon free so its a big big -

    3. Mounts - cool, definitely can live without them as GW2 prooved "....a new monut *throw it in the sack with dozens of other mounts...yawn*

    4. Combat - nice but much better things around, be it you want trinity or not

    5. Endgame - instanced raiding, instanced dungeons, instanced PvP,instanced housing, instanced advetures, instanced solo....is this even a MMO? nope, lobby game. And a "hardcore" raiding at that lol

     

    The only thing WS is better than other MMOs is better at being cartooney.

     

    At least in WS you have all these options and many more.

    Can you pls name a mmo that includes all these features with a better implementation?  Not a mmo that you wish to be made, but a mmo that actually already exists. Can you also name the game you play and its more of a mmo than WS?

    Imho WS is the most complete mmo in the market. Maybe its not for everyone but you cant find another mmo having all these features in such high quality.

    And dont forget all these came at launch. Many more interesting things are going to be implemented in the near future like Guild Housing / Neighborhood etc

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  • rwyanrwyan Member UncommonPosts: 468

    The one thing that bothers me is just how much the media is pushing Wildstar.  For what it is, Wildstar is great, but it definitely isn't some second coming that the media make it out to be.

     

     

  • SaluteSalute Member UncommonPosts: 795
    Originally posted by rwyan

    The one thing that bothers me is just how much the media is pushing Wildstar.  For what it is, Wildstar is great, but it definitely isn't some second coming that the media make it out to be.

     

     

     

    No game is or will be a second coming. Companies and media are doing their job and advertise their products. Our job as gamers is to judge a game if its close or meets our tastes and standards or not.

    I played WS beta, liked it and bought it. If it wasnt of my taste then i would pass, whatever media said. So simple.

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  • bingbongbrosbingbongbros Member UncommonPosts: 689
    It's a shame I don't give a flying fuck about any of those 5 things that it does better.

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  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    Originally posted by kikosforever
    Originally posted by rwyan

    The one thing that bothers me is just how much the media is pushing Wildstar.  For what it is, Wildstar is great, but it definitely isn't some second coming that the media make it out to be.

     

     

     

    No game is or will be a second coming. Companies and media are doing their job and advertise their products. Our job as gamers is to judge a game if its close or meets our tastes and standards or not.

    I played WS beta, liked it and bought it. If it wasnt of my taste then i would pass, whatever media said. So simple.

    Yeah, companies and media are known to say truth, only truth and nothing but truth, are always unfailingly objective and never blow things out of proportion.

    Good one.

  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    Originally posted by kikosforever
    Originally posted by Malabooga

    1. Instanced housing...dont care about it, nice sideattraction but who cares if its instanced?

    2. I want my games addon free so its a big big -

    3. Mounts - cool, definitely can live without them as GW2 prooved "....a new monut *throw it in the sack with dozens of other mounts...yawn*

    4. Combat - nice but much better things around, be it you want trinity or not

    5. Endgame - instanced raiding, instanced dungeons, instanced PvP,instanced housing, instanced advetures, instanced solo....is this even a MMO? nope, lobby game. And a "hardcore" raiding at that lol

     

    The only thing WS is better than other MMOs is better at being cartooney.

     

    At least in WS you have all these options and many more.

    Can you pls name a mmo that includes all these features with a better implementation?  Not a mmo that you wish to be made, but a mmo that actually already exists. Can you also name the game you play and its more of a mmo than WS?

    Imho WS is the most complete mmo in the market. Maybe its not for everyone but you cant find another mmo having all these features in such high quality.

    And dont forget all these came at launch. Many more interesting things are going to be implemented in the near future like Guild Housing / Neighborhood etc

    IMHO WS is not a MMO. So i wouldnt even compare it to MMOs but to its own genre.

  • SaluteSalute Member UncommonPosts: 795
    Originally posted by Malabooga
    Originally posted by kikosforever
    Originally posted by rwyan

    The one thing that bothers me is just how much the media is pushing Wildstar.  For what it is, Wildstar is great, but it definitely isn't some second coming that the media make it out to be.

     

     

     

    No game is or will be a second coming. Companies and media are doing their job and advertise their products. Our job as gamers is to judge a game if its close or meets our tastes and standards or not.

    I played WS beta, liked it and bought it. If it wasnt of my taste then i would pass, whatever media said. So simple.

    Yeah, companies and media are known to say truth, only truth and nothing but truth, are always unfailingly objective and never blow things out of proportion.

    Good one.

    Ehm...who said that? Read carefully pls.

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  • AwDiddumsAwDiddums Member UncommonPosts: 416
    Originally posted by rwyan

    The one thing that bothers me is just how much the media is pushing Wildstar.  For what it is, Wildstar is great, but it definitely isn't some second coming that the media make it out to be.

     

     

    I have yet to see an advert on my TV for Wildstar, I do not see any adverts on my msn homepage for WS, infact I have seen very little in the way sites pushing this game out there.

    This site pushes the FOTM games when they release, they always have they always will, so other than this site (and tbh it's hardly in your face) I can't think of a gaming site where the ads have "bothered" me.

     

  • stevebombsquadstevebombsquad Member UncommonPosts: 884
    Originally posted by Malabooga

    1. Instanced housing...dont care about it, nice sideattraction but who cares if its instanced?

    2. I want my games addon free so its a big big -

    3. Mounts - cool, definitely can live without them as GW2 prooved "....a new monut *throw it in the sack with dozens of other mounts...yawn*

    4. Combat - nice but much better things around, be it you want trinity or not

    5. Endgame - instanced raiding, instanced dungeons, instanced PvP,instanced housing, instanced advetures, instanced solo....is this even a MMO? nope, lobby game. And a "hardcore" raiding at that lol

     

    The only thing WS is better than other MMOs is better at being cartooney.

    It is hard to have a valid opinion about a game when you have clearly never played it. 

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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    i have to completely disagree with the Combat being better than any other MMO. That is clearly the writer's own opinion. Wildstar combat is not bad, but is a million miles away from the best combat in mmos. Since he shared his opinion ill share mine. GW2 IMO has far superior combat. Again, opinions.




  • BearKnightBearKnight Member CommonPosts: 461
    Originally posted by Malabooga

    1. Instanced housing...dont care about it, nice sideattraction but who cares if its instanced?

    2. I want my games addon free so its a big big -

    3. Mounts - cool, definitely can live without them as GW2 prooved "....a new monut *throw it in the sack with dozens of other mounts...yawn*

    4. Combat - nice but much better things around, be it you want trinity or not

    5. Endgame - instanced raiding, instanced dungeons, instanced PvP,instanced housing, instanced advetures, instanced solo....is this even a MMO? nope, lobby game. And a "hardcore" raiding at that lol

     

    The only thing WS is better than other MMOs is better at being cartooney.

    Hammer meet Nail.

     

    Best explanation so far of just how generic WildStar is. Way too much instancing, solo fest, and end-game raiding that has been done for the past 10years++.

     

    EQII raiding was more "Hardcore" than Wildstar raiding, and that says a lot.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,060
    Any time you say game "x" is better than any other game with regards to feature "y" you better make sure you have extensively played literally every MMO ever created or you are going to look foolish when someone calls you out with an example that many consider to be better. (Granted, better is a very subjective thing)

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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857

    Housing: The article opens with Something that has been sorely lacking from almost every major MMORPG of the last ten years is proper player housing. So Because WoW didn't do it, that qualifies as "almost every major MMORPG of the last 10 years"?  This statement and thus the crux of that entire point is based on false information since there are plenty of MMOs that have it. So why doesn't the author of that Article do a comparison of the games that do have housing? And so how is it different and/or better?

    Addons?  I really like some, but not all of them. I loved my Weak Auras and what you could do with it. but I hated DPS meters and how they created a whole new "meta" of game play. Unfortunately, for every good addon, there is a bad one and it's all or nothing so, While having Awesome AddOn support may be a bonus it's also a curse. (No pun intended)

    Mounts? Come on! Mounts are Mounts. How is what WS doing better than WoW or SWTOR, or Rift or well, anything but GW2?

    Combat: No matter how exciting a combat system an MMORPG has, it's going to be one of the 1st things that gets old in the game. MMORPGs should have a decent Combat system. Bu too much focus on it won't save a game that is lacking in other areas.

    Endgame: So if raiding is all there is, then the game is already lacking.

     

    I'm seeing a list of 5 generic MMORPG features where the author is saying the fact that WS has them, makes it stand out.

    This article didn't really make sense to me. Of course the opener itself was basically a lie.

  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197

    Lol people are just hating to hate. 

    The game is fun as hell and it's most certainly the most complete MMO to have launched in the last years.

    I'm sure if you dissect it and compare each feature to other mmos you would be able to find better versions of each feature (and some you won't)... but as a complete package, there isn't anything that can compare.

     

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