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Can someone explain this whole "Epic" thing to me?
joejccva71
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I hear people talking about "getting their epic" at level 40 something or whatever. What exactly is this? Is this like getting an epic in EQ?
Could one of you fine people please educate me on this?
Thanks!
Joe
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Every class has a series of quests that reward you with a full suit of armor. These are called the Epic Quests, and naturally the armor you receive is called your Epic, or Epic Armor.
They actually start early on in your levels, around level 7 or so I believe. Thay're the series of quests you get from your trainer every couple of levels. Around 40 though is when you start the main parts of it though. Hope that helps!
Richard J. Cox
"There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
Every class has a series of quests that reward you with a full suit of armor. These are called the Epic Quests, and naturally the armor you receive is called your Epic, or Epic Armor.
They actually start early on in your levels, around level 7 or so I believe. Thay're the series of quests you get from your trainer every couple of levels. Around 40 though is when you start the main parts of it though. Hope that helps!
Is it better to just wait until I'm level 50 and then just do those?
Depends on how badly you need the gear. They're also really good for XP. Several bubbles worth for each step if I remember correctly. Plus I believe the new epics (they were recently revamped) actually end at 45 or so, which means at level 45 you'll have a full set of level 50 armor with fairly nice stats to carry you through those last 4-5 levels.
Richard J. Cox
"There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
Ok great. Thanks Kunou.
No prob at all.
Richard J. Cox
"There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
Typically people do one of 3 things:
1) Go ahead and do the epic quests as they get them. No brainer... it is fun and you level a little quicker because they give very nice XP.
2) Wait till level 48.5 and do them then. Typically if you do all of them (40-45) at once at 48.5 it's enough xp to get you to 50 in a few hours of questing instead of a few hours of grinding.
3) Wait till 50 to do them. The XP you get is then Champion Level xp and helps in that area.
None of the 3 methods are wrong. Just different.
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Ok cool. By the way, which NPC do I converse with to start doing the epic quests once I level high enough?
Your trainer
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I said that already.
Paying attention ftw! 
Richard J. Cox
"There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
It would help if I read posts all the way through. LOL.
All this info is great,I learn more on these forums in 10 minutes than 30 minutes anywhere else
Good job guys!
I would suggest that if possible do you Epics at level for your first time. I believe that in order to make doing Epics easier we all now have the same quest. This means that every class in your realm will have the same one.
After you have done it once, then it is up to you. I do not like do the same thing over and over. I also can spellcraft all of my gear and have vaults full of antying I could want. With that said I simply wait until I am 50 and then do them. It is quicker to knock them out that way.
is the vault system per location or is it a server wide dealy?
Vaults are server-wide.
All the classes start off seperate on their epics and the kinda merge together at the upper levels.
Richard J. Cox
"There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
There are two types of vaults. The first is free. It is done by character. It is server wide and can be accessed by vault keepers. The other vault you buy and put in your house. This is very useful for transfering items from one character to another.
Are you sure about the epics Kunou? Maybe they are all just blurring together, but my animist, bainshee, and vamp all had the same part. I talk to the class trainer, then I go talk to Brigit. I then have to get some item (i think this part might be different) and then Brigit shows me an image. I must find someone's grave and and retrieve the sword. The area is just south of DF. I go there and interact with a dead body. Spirits come up and I have to kill one. I talk to a spirit. Anyway I could go on, but every step seems the same to me.
Maybe it is just the classes I have been doing epics for are all the same. I could try with another toon to see.
Actually the epics are, as they always have been, follower specific. I can't remember which ones go with whom but certain class types get the same classes. Like Wardens, Eldritches and rangers will all get the same quests while Hero's, Bards and Druids will get different ones.
It's not CLASS specific it's more 'religion' specific or something like that. I used to know this one cold but it's been a while since I dug into it. But yeah some classes get the same stuff the whole way through but it's not 'class' and it's not 'everyone'. It's a subset.
I know that's pretty vague but it's true. I think there may be an article on the Herald archives about it but I'm too lazy to go dig it up.
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Actually they used to be "Archetype" specific, meaning if you started off as a "Fighter" you had the same Epic line as all the other Fighters, regardless of your final class. I don't know exactly how it is broken down since they redid them all, I haven't done them on enough different classes to determine really. I do know they all merge together at the end now so everyone does the same last couple steps.
Richard J. Cox
"There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
Actually it still seems to follow the same 'archetype' rules as before. I've started about 15 or so different toons, several in alb and mid, and it's definitely still following the old pattern. It wasn't as basic as "Fighter" types though. It's more of an "Ethos" type.
Alb for example: When you talk to your trainer he says something like would you like to join the "Defenders of Albion and become an XYZ". There are other 'ethos' that you could be part of for the various classes.
For example, in Hib the naturalists are all "Naturalists" but the Bard, Warden and Druid each have a different quest line.
Warden shares the same quest line as Rangers, Hero's and Eldritch
Bard shares the same quest line as Night Shade and, I think it's Champion. I forget which caster follows that way.
Druid follows the same quest line as some other classes.
So the basic 'archetypes' are still being followed. But damned if I know what all of them are anymore. From my recent experiences launching NUMEROUS noob toons at least the low level 'epics' are still following the archetype path. I suspect the high level ones do to.
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Well you also have to keep in mind some "final classes" are available from more than one Archetype. For example Vamps can start off as just about any Archetype. Pretty sure there are others as well, so that might be why some seem a little off...
Richard J. Cox
"There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
Not talking about the "rogue/fighter/mage/healer" archetype. I'm talking about which 'clan' or 'way' or whatever that you join when you pick your final class.
Warden, for example, is a "Naturalist" base class. But it follows the "Way of arms" or something like that. And everyone in that way (Eld, Hero, Warden, Ranger) gets the same epic quests. Notice that there is 1 from each 'base' type
Most of the other 'ways' are the same way.
I can't speak to vamps. I didn't like mine enough to stick with him long enough to figure out what his epic line was. Too much friggen button mashing. I played a Bard in EQ for several years. I NEVER want to have to mash buttons like that again. The vamp is just too 'hotkey intensive' for me.
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Which parts of my epic can I do solo and which parts will I need help with?
If you wait until 50 you can do all of them solo up until the level 40 one.
If you are keeping up with them, it will depend on the step. The game will even tell you when you need more people. It will say "get a few friends" to help you.
As for if all the Epics are the same, I remember now that someone brought it up that it is done by your path. I started my vamp out as a stealther which might explain why it is the same as my NS. I should try my Warden to see how that one starts.
I tried to post a screenshot of 2 thanes doing one of the steps where they first turn into lil female tomtes then into creepy lil monsters but I couldn't figure out how to grab it from the site I origenally posted it on cause you would need my login to access it. Looked super funny though especially with the comments and emotes being made in it.
I just remember the classes I mentioned above performing the roles they preformed cause I did it with my zerker (who's suit templated perfectly with the gear I was packing, just kinda happened), shadowblade, shaman (with a healer friend), one hunter and a warrior. I walked with the thanes on their steps to speed things up.
I probably would be wise to do each epic at its proper level cause the gear you receive is actually pretty decent.