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Ganking is full on in this game.

HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
People are quitting the game already and its not even released yet. They have some really heated post on the boards and threads are being closed. I wonder how this game will do now.  I will never understand the point of open world pvp. If it had some meaning then i could be on board with it. Gank squads just blocking roads or area's so player's can't do quest. I don't get it.  And of course these gank squads are all max lvl in the best gear so they have nothing else to do but kill low lvl players.

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  • AlamarethAlamareth Member UncommonPosts: 570

    You have flying skills and horses and you can't figure out how to avoid a road?  I truly feel sorry for you. Don't forget that many maps have at least 2 channels.

    It's also the first day of early access, no one has the "best gear".  I can't figure out if you are serious or just another anti-PK troll.

    PKK guilds will exist and I'm going to be very active in one.  I plan on being busy and I can't wait - it's going to be awesome!

  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
    Originally posted by Alamareth

    You have flying skills and horses and you can't figure out how to avoid a road?  I truly feel sorry for you. Don't forget that many maps have at least 2 channels.

    It's also the first day of early access, no one has the "best gear".  I can't figure out if you are serious or just another anti-PK troll.

    PKK guilds will exist and I'm going to be very active in one.  I plan on being busy and I can't wait - it's going to be awesome!

    You are full of crap. I never got any quest for any flying mounts unless you buy it in the shop. You sound jusy like most pvper's in open world games. People couldn't even get to quest areas past lvl 35 for all the gank squads running rampant in this game. Don't believe me just visit the boards and read all the complaints before PW starts deleting post. The game is a pk's dream. In fact PW is closing and deleting post because people are so angry about it. The boards have become hostile with pvper's insulting pve player's and vice versa.

  • BoneserinoBoneserino Member UncommonPosts: 1,768

    Why would a PvE player play this game?

     

    And it is not ganking.  It is PvP.    If you do not like then you do not have to play it.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    Originally posted by Boneserino

    Why would a PvE player play this game?

     

    And it is not ganking.  It is PvP.    If you do not like then you do not have to play it.

    Why would they include PVE content if it was only for PVP'ers?

    Yeah, it's a silly question, just like yours.

     

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  • ChrisboxChrisbox Member UncommonPosts: 1,729
    Originally posted by Hariken
    People are quitting the game already and its not even released yet. They have some really heated post on the boards and threads are being closed. I wonder how this game will do now.  I will never understand the point of open world pvp. If it had some meaning then i could be on board with it. Gank squads just blocking roads or area's so player's can't do quest. I don't get it.  And of course these gank squads are all max lvl in the best gear so they have nothing else to do but kill low lvl players.

    That sounds like something I would want in a pvp game, but from the rest of this thread it sounds like they don't give the lower levels the proper tools to overcome said road blocks.

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  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,481
    As long as the company didn't count on getting much PVE player money, they should do just fine.  Right?    Personally, I don't play anything that has non-consensual PVP.   Because the easier it is to grief/gank, the more that lunatic fringe is drawn to it.   Not worth my time, when there are enjoyable alternatives.

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  • DoogiehowserDoogiehowser Member Posts: 1,873
    Tried the game and i don't see any future for this game the way things are going. Same mistakes everytime. Its 2014 ffs wake up devs.

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  • AlamarethAlamareth Member UncommonPosts: 570
    Originally posted by Hariken
    Originally posted by Alamareth

    You have flying skills and horses and you can't figure out how to avoid a road?  I truly feel sorry for you. Don't forget that many maps have at least 2 channels.

    It's also the first day of early access, no one has the "best gear".  I can't figure out if you are serious or just another anti-PK troll.

    PKK guilds will exist and I'm going to be very active in one.  I plan on being busy and I can't wait - it's going to be awesome!

    You are full of crap. I never got any quest for any flying mounts unless you buy it in the shop. You sound jusy like most pvper's in open world games. People couldn't even get to quest areas past lvl 35 for all the gank squads running rampant in this game. Don't believe me just visit the boards and read all the complaints before PW starts deleting post. The game is a pk's dream. In fact PW is closing and deleting post because people are so angry about it. The boards have become hostile with pvper's insulting pve player's and vice versa.

    Where in the world did I say flying mount?  I said flying skills and horses (separate).  The point was that horses are a very effective way of running from anything except S&M.  Barring that, you can glide long distances by jumping up a mountain with your triple jump.

    It's so clear from your responses that you do not play this game.  None of what you are talking about has manifested itself in the game.  I've seen a grand total of ZERO PKs and only 3 PKKs (those are announced globablly).  No one is deleting posts in the forum, there's a three page long post with people spewing the same sort of BS you are.

    The anti-PK crowd are maniacal and militant.  Complaining about a game you don't even play because it has PK.  If you wonder why you guys get targeted so badly, it's posts like this?  I'm not even a PK'er ad I think I'd like to grief you.

  • breadm1xbreadm1x Member UncommonPosts: 374
    Originally posted by Boneserino

    Why would a PvE player play this game?

     

    And it is not ganking.  It is PvP.    If you do not like then you do not have to play it.

    5 players that are 10 levels higher then u  killing u for no reson is called ganking.

    http://nl.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ganking

    Litle tip,  you seem know what pvp is now learn what ganking is :P


  • IsidiusIsidius Member UncommonPosts: 46
    This game is just terrible, I tried to stick with it but sadly it sucks...
  • AeonbladesAeonblades Member Posts: 2,083
    Honestly, did anyone, anywhere, have any hope that this would be more than the standard cash grab? I mean, I'm glad that some people enjoy it for what it is, but I didn't think anyone had the illusion that this was going to be somehow different or better than all the other...games? PW releases.

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  • Alber_gamerAlber_gamer Member UncommonPosts: 588

    To be fair, I'm happy with games like this attracting all the braindead gankers so they can stay off the good PvE games pretending to be "hardcore PvP'ers" when all they do is ganging up on lower level/outnumbered players that just want to do their story quests or  gather mats to prepare for a dungeon/raid run.

     

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  • MaelwyddMaelwydd Member Posts: 1,123

    Games like this attract a certain sort of player.

    And in my experience that sort of player is best staying away from the good games I like and circle jerking with all the other PvP leet kids in games like this.

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    Originally posted by Boneserino

    Why would a PvE player play this game?

     

    And it is not ganking.  It is PvP.    If you do not like then you do not have to play it.

    Why would they include PVE content if it was only for PVP'ers?

    Yeah, it's a silly question, just like yours.

     

    Well there is no such thing as a pvp only mmorpg. Plus most people who pvp also do some pve. It's the pve only people with the problem...

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    nvm
  • xpowderxxpowderx Member UncommonPosts: 2,078
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    Originally posted by Boneserino

    Why would a PvE player play this game?

     

    And it is not ganking.  It is PvP.    If you do not like then you do not have to play it.

    Why would they include PVE content if it was only for PVP'ers?

    Yeah, it's a silly question, just like yours.

     

    PVE in a PVP oriented mmo is there for gear or fast leveling. Examples being Dark Age of Camelot. Players even back then only did pve content to get to 50, get some gear then RVR/PVP.

    While it may seem unusual for a PVE'r to acknowledge this. Most pvpers mini/max his or her character just to be optimized in pvp. This includes doing pve content to get that piece of gear, item or power. What else would pve content be for on a pvp server or game?

    Why I only play with players who do both pve and pvp. A guild with just one or the other seriously lacks. Besides, who would I trust more. A player who uses systematic protocol in pve content. Or a player who can adapt and uses a mini/maxed character? Of course with  faster response and much more skill using a character compared to a pve player!

  • seafirexseafirex Member UncommonPosts: 419

    If this game is a pvp mmo, you wont get pitty from anyone over there or here for getting ganked. Sorry but this is how it is.

    In pve mmo's we the pvp people have to go with what the pve players wants and how they want it done, Same applies here, you have to go with how we pvp people want it and how we want it.

    But 1 thing i will say to help you out. Request from PWE to create different servers for different taste. eg : PVE servers, RP servers, PVP servers. ( submit that on there forums, but find a delicate way of saying it without getting the post closed like a poll or a survey ).

    Like that each servers have there own rules and players will have to play on the servers that best fits there game play.

  • mattic65mattic65 Member UncommonPosts: 191

        Firstly, I've never played this game so I cannot comment on the specifics of it. 

     

        But just as the PvPers can't come barging into a PvE game and start demanding that things change to compliment their playstyle, PvEers can't come into a PvP-centric game and demand that everyone stop...errr, PvPing. It's silly. If you're turned off by any sort of PvP, simply stay away from the games that feature it. 

     

       And this is coming from someone who predominantly plays PvE content.

  • MavolenceMavolence Member UncommonPosts: 635
    Originally posted by breadm1x
    Originally posted by Boneserino

    Why would a PvE player play this game?

     

    And it is not ganking.  It is PvP.    If you do not like then you do not have to play it.

    5 players that are 10 levels higher then u  killing u for no reson is called ganking.

    http://nl.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ganking

    Litle tip,  you seem know what pvp is now learn what ganking is :P

    Actually technically that last part of that entry is wrong. Ganking was coined from the two words Gang Killing. A single high level player kiling a defenseless person is not ganking. I realize for the past 15 years people attribute whatever the hell they feel like to certain words but really have no idea what they are talking about.  Also ganking was considered completely seperate than griefing when it was coined.

  • kaiser3282kaiser3282 Member UncommonPosts: 2,759
    Originally posted by Mavolence
    Originally posted by breadm1x
    Originally posted by Boneserino

    Why would a PvE player play this game?

     

    And it is not ganking.  It is PvP.    If you do not like then you do not have to play it.

    5 players that are 10 levels higher then u  killing u for no reson is called ganking.

    http://nl.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ganking

    Litle tip,  you seem know what pvp is now learn what ganking is :P

    Actually technically that last part of that entry is wrong. Ganking was coined from the two words Gang Killing. A single high level player kiling a defenseless person is not ganking. I realize for the past 15 years people attribute whatever the hell they feel like to certain words but really have no idea what they are talking about.  Also ganking was considered completely seperate than griefing when it was coined.

    Unfortunately, as with many terms, it has come to be used as nothing close to the original meaning. Nowadays, anyone getting killed anywhere, ever, regardless of the situation automatically results in cries of being "ganked".

    Kind of like how everyone now uses DPS (Damage Per Second) to refer to a class archetype / role, when it is actually supposed to be DD (Damage Dealer). Dont think people realize just how ridiculous it would sound if they were running around saying "Im a damage per second!"

    Anyway, as a few others have stated. It is an open PvP game. If you didn't expect this to happen, you might be a bit special. It's just as foolish as someone joining a PvE centric game and then crying "OMG why do I have to fight mobs!" Open PvP games will pretty much always result in lots of this sort of thing happening unless systems are specifically put in place to hinder it such as murder penalties. Otherwise, there is nothing at all to deter everyone attacking anyone they see just for the hell of it.

  • jdlamson75jdlamson75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,010
    Originally posted by breadm1x
    Originally posted by Boneserino

    Why would a PvE player play this game?

     

    And it is not ganking.  It is PvP.    If you do not like then you do not have to play it.

    5 players that are 10 levels higher then u  killing u for no reson is called ganking.

    http://nl.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ganking

    Litle tip,  you seem know what pvp is now learn what ganking is :P

    Ganking is a skill used in Darkfall to finish off a player you just killed. In PvP.

  • kaiser3282kaiser3282 Member UncommonPosts: 2,759
    Originally posted by jdlamson75
    Originally posted by breadm1x
    Originally posted by Boneserino

    Why would a PvE player play this game?

     

    And it is not ganking.  It is PvP.    If you do not like then you do not have to play it.

    5 players that are 10 levels higher then u  killing u for no reson is called ganking.

    http://nl.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ganking

    Litle tip,  you seem know what pvp is now learn what ganking is :P

    Ganking is a skill used in Darkfall to finish off a player you just killed. In PvP.

    Ha, that is true too. Forgot all about that. Funny thing is, I was in the process of updating my Darkfall to hop back on for the first time in a while when i saw this.

  • PsalmsPsalms Member UncommonPosts: 137
    Originally posted by mattic65

        Firstly, I've never played this game so I cannot comment on the specifics of it. 

     

        But just as the PvPers can't come barging into a PvE game and start demanding that things change to compliment their playstyle, PvEers can't come into a PvP-centric game and demand that everyone stop...errr, PvPing. It's silly. If you're turned off by any sort of PvP, simply stay away from the games that feature it. 

     

       And this is coming from someone who predominantly plays PvE content.

    Totally agree with this! I like PvP, even though I'm not good at it. But I've never gone to a PvE game forum and blasted it for not having enough PvP.

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