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Trion incompetence
Archeage patches which are full downloads,
Patch notes which they change because they don't even know what is in patch
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Labour Points is a JOKE. As a subscriber I want to craft, or farm, or something, but I cant due to limits on how much I am allowed to craft per day.
I can fkn fight piss awful mobs all day though, in a game where CRAFTING is first on their advert spiel
Cash shop not tested at all, nobody knows what pay2win garbage will be in there.
What a fkn mess Trion, sort yourselves out
Buyer beware, great game being screwed by developers and publishers
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I can agree on a couple of points you mention in your post. Especially the full 23Gb download AGAIN and AGAIN when they add small patches to the game - that's just plain silly!
Labor points is a bit of a different topic. You have a max of 5K labor (2K for free players), but the regen just goes too slow. Thi could/should be sped up a bit more I think and I'm not talking about that one 1K LP pot with 12h CD that'll probably pop up in the cash shop.
But your rant about the cash shop is just plain BS. Nothing's tested and you claim it'll hold P2W stuff in it. This while TRION clearly stated that they will not add ANY game breaking things to the cash shop. And when looking at RIFT's cash shop I believe them (which is why I bought the alpha myself).
Well, you know, Trion actually told us we would be testing the Cash Shop.
But they buggered it up.
The reason I am posting is because I like the game, but it is currently a trainwreck, and when all the beta folk get in, I think this will become clearer.
ffs, I post about fun in game and all sorts, but Trion appear hell bent on wringing every ounce of fun away from game, in the quest for the last penny in our wallets.
Game is going to crash and burn , and I'm gutted about it.
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Honestly why bother with all this? Everyone is going to play it whether it's total crap or not because it's F2P and they are bored with *insert whatever game they played last* and are looking for something to do until *insert whatever game is due to come out next* is released. This is the ebb and flow of MMORPGs. All these points are pointless. All this debating is pointless. All this warning is pointless. No one is going to play this game, or any other game for that matter, for more than a few months at most. They will come and go like the tides.
Enough of this already. Just look at Patron rewards and you see it is P2W without the cash shop.
Either the game is F2P or it isn't. This game isn't. You need to pay to get all aspects of the game (land) all while having F2P garbage like labor point limitations and having to deal with the F2P players that trash a community because they can.
And yes, Rift is P2W also because you can buy armor/weapons with stats.
I noticed that too. For a game that claims to focus on crafting at least equally they give a LOT of preference to combat.
But at least those cool bubble effects where stolen from Darkfall
I am proud of that.
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so say we all
Hey, fire away folks.
Sticking your head in the sand is not going to sort things out.
People need to see things from more than one perspective, unfortunately most folk are too quick to reply, especially without any knowledge.
Hate on, I'm still afk waiting for labour to regen enough to smelt the ores I mined this morning, and attempt to make something with all the trees I plundered from 'non protected' farms.
Oh, and if , as has been mentioned, Thunderstruck trees are on cash shop , I will expect a full apology from every hater on here .
but for most of us who will just probably pk theres no issue bro f2p is viable
i will still pay tho because i want a swag pad
so, you're gonna appologize to yourself now?
because damn dude, if you're not hater, i have no idea
also, i was under the impression that beta is about to start now, not end.... so ... wtf is your prob?
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But, can't you buy Thunderstruck trees on the auction house? Or get them from your own farms? Or even find them in the wilds as one of my guildmates did up in the northland?
If so, then you are paying for convenience, there is no winning there.
As for waiting on your labor points to regen, get out there and kill something, or some other player. There are many facets to the game, too much of one thing makes jack a dull boy.
Also, you could create crafting alts, guildmates of mine had 3 or 4 per account (and yes, a few guildmates had multiple Alpha level accounts) and they were crafting all the time. Additionally, as a guild we who rarely used our labor points would go help out the guild crafters by burning them in the guild farms.
Stop trying to be a one man band, this game isn't well suited for that play style.
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Uhm... Trade ingots & lumber instead? I hear ppl yelling for it in faction chat all the time (doing it myself as well when I'm low on LP). Or do you want to boost metalworking and carpentry as well..?
And yeah, if thunderstruck trees will come to the cash shop I will apologize big time, but I don't think they will. Same for the Archeum crystals. You can obtain those though 'normal game play' *LOL* and will most likely not be added to the cash shop...
how do you get ingots and lumber without using LPs?
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Well cash shop is live. Here are screenshots (which are totally useless) hope somebody will make a video. Nothing bad in it (yet) imo.
http://cerberusguild.enjin.com/forum/m/24552766/viewthread/13877824-market/page/1
Ouch ,,,,,do you find it hard talking with that foot there
I've felt like that in quite a few MMOs lately.. even ones out for a while (SWTOR).
Last few years have really been disappointment after disappointment.
Quite simple... One player takes care of the raw materials (iron ore & logs), while the other player processes them (into iron ingots & lumber). You can trade the ore/logs for ingots/lumber on a 3:1 basis (which is the 'recipe' to process them) or just sell the ingots/logs and buy the ingots/lumber on the AH.
And suddenly the entire economy becomes dependent on those willing to spend their precious few LP on materials for someone else........the F2P conversion took a large chunk out of the appeal of the game. This was a PvP and crafting haven, now its just a PvP game with systems that take from the game instead of gives to it.
Yep, my apologies over the Thunderstruck trees
Other than that. Labour potions, xp potions, tax certificates etc.
game just got brokededed
Trion will coin it in though, short term
Couldn't you buy cash shop currency with in game gold? If so the only train wreck in here is your logic train.
ability to eventually get everything doesn't remove the P2W aspect.
You go ahead and farm out the 10,0000,000 gold you need for what I will get in the minute it takes me to pay for it, then use that advantage to get 10,000,000 gold in far less time so I can keep getting more, faster.
Land + faster LP = far more materials to trade with to make even more in game money.