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[Column] General: Summer Snapshots

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
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Let's try playing a little game. I'll pose a bunch of topics and provide my thoughts on each. You're invited to do the same. The only stipulation is that the word snapshot in the sub-head means there's a limit of 100 words per subject. Are you up for it? I guess we'll see soon enough. Here's your chance to join me in offering quick takes on Firefall, Destiny, WoW: Warlords of Draenor, WildStar, ArcheAge and which MMOGs may be approaching their sunsets.

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  • orbitxoorbitxo Member RarePosts: 1,956

    Firefall's chances of success  = true!

    Destiny's destiny=  blackhole pc oblivion

    Warlords of Draenor's ability to reinvigorate WoW = ima skeptic

    WildStar's long-term prognosis= oh boy... think they didnt know how big their pvp & casual  playerbase was and fell short of delivering a proper system.    :- /

     

    miss:  warhammer online!

     
     
     
  • staryoshistaryoshi Member CommonPosts: 8

    Wildstar: 2 50's, lots of PVE and PVP later I ran out of content within a month. Daily quests do not extra content make. It has a very strong set of tools to work with if they can master class balance and keep adding content on a GW2-esque pace. I see F2P in 18-24 months.

    Firefall: While I can't tell exactly what's changed since I played it a year ago, it looks good in its current state.

  • orbitxoorbitxo Member RarePosts: 1,956
    Originally posted by staryoshi

    Wildstar:  I see F2P in 18-24 months.

    we'll see WoW got B2P before wildstar, if that! WS has a very good business model atm.

     
     
     
  • AeonbladesAeonblades Member Posts: 2,083

    Fireflop <--- lol

    Destiny: Will do ok, but have problems with player retention

    WoD/WoW: Will never see 12 million subs again, no matter how good WoD is. May hit 10m again.

    WildStar: F2P within 6 months to 1 year. 12months-24 months if they manage to add casual content, fix bugs/combat, and fix all the FPS issues.

    ArcheAge: Flops in the west

     

    Surprise prediction: DAoC will go F2P before next summer, causing players to come back and RvR again for a few months at least.

    Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
    Have played: You name it
    If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.

  • staryoshistaryoshi Member CommonPosts: 8
    Originally posted by orbitxo
    Originally posted by staryoshi

    Wildstar:  I see F2P in 18-24 months.

    we'll see WoW got B2P before wildstar, if that! WS has a very good business model atm.

     
     
     

    $60 + Monthly + CREDD is not a sustainable business model, IMO. The monthly subscription model is a dying one. If they dropped the monthly sub and went with F2P + microtransactions and an optional sub they'd see a healthy influx of players now that they've collected their $60 from us early adopters. It's coming, it's just a matter of when. I'm being conservative by pushing it out 1.5-2 years - I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen sooner.

  • popezaphodpopezaphod Member UncommonPosts: 58

    WoW is too big for me to consider going back.  Even if I started with a Lv90 character, it just feels so large that I'd feel like I was missing something no matter how much time I spent playing.  If Blizzard ever released "Classic WoW" possibly with a few things to make the gameplay smoother (LFG tools, etc) then maybe I'd go back.  But I have no desire to dive into WoW the way it is today.

     

    I am curious about ArcheAge, but I haven not been fortunate enough to get into a beta yet.

  • HolyAvengerOneHolyAvengerOne Member UncommonPosts: 708

    Which defunct MMOGs do you miss the most?

     

    SWG! Hands down.

  • ArcaneEyesArcaneEyes Member UncommonPosts: 22
    i'm with OrbitXO on the Warhammer Online. The PvP matches had such great feeling to them, and teaming up with a few friends and doing witchblade killgroups was a lot of fun!
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919

    Firefall: I could easily see this failing. The launch of Destiny won't help either.

    Destiny: is interesting, imo, because it extends the scope of B2P + DLC games beyond the likes of Battlefield.

    • Follow on DLC purchases = higher online profit margins.
    • No sub so no rush to max level in 30 days.
    • No cash shop so no nickel and dime - dollared maybe but content costs money. And if the content is poor people won't buy it.
    Will Dragon Age adopt the same approach?
     
    Warlords: sub below 6M by the end of Q3 must be a possibility. A good number will return obviously but I think Activision are expecting those who do to leave by 2015 Q1.
     
    Wildstar: I suspect NCSoft are planning an eastern f2p with cash shop launch. In western markets I see it struggling although it will probably manage a (small) niche.
     
    Archegage: a niche .... if it is lucky.  
     
    Nearing their end: Asheron's Call we know about; ditto Ultima mobile ditto. Publishers may well have other motives for keeping underperforming games going. For example SoE will continue with EQ1 until Landmark/Next are launched. EA will keep SWTOR in maintenance mode. Funcom will keep AoC going until the IP has to be renewed. DAoC - in name at least although it could become a totally different game.
     
    Which defunct mmo do I miss the most: CoH.
     
    Delayed mmo: ordinarily WoD. But Activision have clearly set an end of year deadline. Sub 5M subs by the end of the year would look bleak indeed.
     
    Next WoW xpac: needs to be sooner. Put a bigger team on it.
     
    And it doesn't look good for FF:XIV imo.
     
  • bliss14bliss14 Member UncommonPosts: 595

     

    wizardry shut down?  /sad

  • bliss14bliss14 Member UncommonPosts: 595
    Originally posted by gervaise1

    Firefall: I could easily see this failing. The launch of Destiny won't help either.

    Destiny: is interesting, imo, because it extends the scope of B2P + DLC games beyond the likes of Battlefield.

    • Follow on DLC purchases = higher online profit margins.
    • No sub so no rush to max level in 30 days.
    • No cash shop so no nickel and dime - dollared maybe but content costs money. And if the content is poor people won't buy it.
    Will Dragon Age adopt the same approach?
     
    Warlords: sub below 6M by the end of Q3 must be a possibility. A good number will return obviously but I think Activision are expecting those who do to leave by 2015 Q1.
     
    Wildstar: I suspect NCSoft are planning an eastern f2p with cash shop launch. In western markets I see it struggling although it will probably manage a (small) niche.
     
    Archegage: a niche .... if it is lucky.  
     
    Nearing their end: Asheron's Call we know about; ditto Ultima mobile ditto. Publishers may well have other motives for keeping underperforming games going. For example SoE will continue with EQ1 until Landmark/Next are launched. EA will keep SWTOR in maintenance mode. Funcom will keep AoC going until the IP has to be renewed. DAoC - in name at least although it could become a totally different game.
     
    Which defunct mmo do I miss the most: CoH.
     
    Delayed mmo: ordinarily WoD. But Activision have clearly set an end of year deadline. Sub 5M subs by the end of the year would look bleak indeed.
     
    Next WoW xpac: needs to be sooner. Put a bigger team on it.
     
    And it doesn't look good for FF:XIV imo.
     
     

    archeage is niche?  hope not.  i will sub for itl.

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