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Am I Alone Here?

PaRoXiTiCPaRoXiTiC Member UncommonPosts: 603

Am I alone when I say I want an MMORPG again that takes me at minimum 1 year to reach max level? I miss games like Knight Online where you had a PvP Zone for lvl 45-59's, 60-69's, and 70-80's.

It literally would take a casual player 2 years to reach level 80 in that game, but you could always PvP, Farm, Set up Shop (Even overnight), and better your character.

It took me 3 full years to finally hit max level in that game and man was it an awesome feeling. I didn't have to get their to experience the "End Game" either. "End Game" content started at lvl 70, but those last 10 levels took me a year to accomplish.

Is there anybody out there that misses that besides me?

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  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818

    So why aren't you playing something like worm online or eve that will take you the rest of your life to max ? There's lots of indie games out there that are old school like they just have shitty graphics and are missing many features AAA games have...which is probably why ppl wont look at them.

  • PaRoXiTiCPaRoXiTiC Member UncommonPosts: 603
    Eve was a very very boring game to me. Wurm Online is just not my style. However, I guess what my original post was trying to say is that I really enjoy a hardcore level and power grind. I also enjoyed fighting people 3-4 levels above me and spanking on them.
  • HelleriHelleri Member UncommonPosts: 930
    If you are okay with lower graphical fidelity there is Runescape. 27 skills, 26 of them go to 99 (but you can earn 120 worth of experience for extra achievements like 120 capes. Just the hard limit for what it counts is 99), 1 goes to 120 (like in actuality as apposed to effectively). And, there is another skill that should release sometime this year.  Training any one skill can take up to the same amount of time as it does to cap out a character's combat in a lot of other games. ANd, you can spend a good year or two on the game before getting a membership is even justified (below 1400 total skill, and all free play quests complete, most of members would have things you can't really do yet).

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Lineage 2 can still provide a pretty healthy grinding experience

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  • SosaBabySosaBaby Member Posts: 33
    Originally posted by Helleri
    If you are okay with lower graphical fidelity there is Runescape. 27 skills, 26 of them go to 99 (but you can earn 120 worth of experience for extra achievements like 120 capes. Just the hard limit for what it counts is 99), 1 goes to 120 (like in actuality as apposed to effectively). And, there is another skill that should release sometime this year.  Training any one skill can take up to the same amount of time as it does to cap out a character's combat in a lot of other games. ANd, you can spend a good year or two on the game before getting a membership is even justified (below 1400 total skill, and all free play quests complete, most of members would have things you can't really do yet).

    Totally agree, Been playing runescape on and off since 2006 and I'm still not max level. I am by no means a super hard core player and it is completely possible to get max stats in that amount of time, But i have played a lot and have 4 99's which took me around a year. There is really so much to do in this game, plus its sandbox-ish, you can do whatever you want, whenever you want. There is no real end game. only 26,000 people have 99 everything and not even they have truly completed the game.

    http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Completionist_cape

    ^^I truly think this is the hardest item to get in any MMORPG ever. There are around only 1000-2000 people who can wear it and from a game that over 200 million people have tried speaks volumes on how hard it is to earn.

    I could go on and on and on..... But if you need any help feel free to message me ingame if you decide to try it out, my username is WeTheNorth,

     

    Cheers!

     

     

    Edit: I would also like to say that the record for getting all 99's in the fastest time is 227 days played in game time. This person also had billions of gold and years of knowledge. 

    Bang Bang 3hun oBLA!

  • HelleriHelleri Member UncommonPosts: 930

    Especially since they keep releasing higher and higher content...Even if your all 99 you can still max xp at 120's worth (even though it will still read 99) and get a ton of even higher skill capes. They also have player owned ports now which takes month to get something like full superior sea singers. They revamped dung and even gave it it's own achievement diaries, so now there are multiple difficulties. And, for the last 3 years they have been releasing an average of 1 grandmaster quest, 1 new skill, 2-3 new or revamped areas, and a 2-3 new low level quests. As well as 1-3 enitely new sets of gear or big expansions on existing quests...

     

    If one thing can be said about Runescape. For the average player, by the time they do all there is to do when they started. there is that much more new since they did. And, with the Evolution of Combat update and the New Interface System there is less of a learning curve in coming from other MMORPG. As well a very high degree of deep customization in how you play. Even older players now have the newly released legacy mode, which they can activate to make the interface and combat look and feel like old Runescape (even brought weapon special back).

     

    @mandog14

    You are a lot more productive then I am. I have been playing fairly consistently since 01' (technically since 2 weeks limited open beta Nov 00' but even the wikia's tend to forget that happened). And, I don't have a single 99, lol.

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  • sunandshadowsunandshadow Member RarePosts: 1,985
    Last I knew, the max level in Dofus was like 200 and after 6 months of play I was only approaching 100 when I quit.
    I want to help design and develop a PvE-focused, solo-friendly, sandpark MMO which combines crafting, monster hunting, and story.  So PM me if you are starting one.
  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196

     

     

    If that's what you are looking for try Lineage 2. I too like games that have a slower pace of progression.

  • HelleriHelleri Member UncommonPosts: 930
    Come to think of it I think maple story has a high level cap like that as well. But, why I think Runescape is great for a long run game is pretty much the amount of content and how diverse it is. If your an average player (just on 2 hours a day in the week and an additional 32 minutes on average on the weekend....according to the player demographics Mod MMG released earlier this year). You can take probably around 5-7 years to run out of existing content. Even a "hardcore" Player spends 7-13 hours on a day and would take a year or two to max out (again from those player demographics). In any case by the time you run out of content that was there when you started. You will still have more because a lot more was added in the interim. Runescape is the most prolifically updated MMORPG (Guiness Book of World Records) after all.

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  • SosaBabySosaBaby Member Posts: 33
    Originally posted by Helleri
    Come to think of it I think maple story has a high level cap like that as well. But, why I think Runescape is great for a long run game is pretty much the amount of content and how diverse it is. If your an average player (just on 2 hours a day in the week and an additional 32 minutes on average on the weekend....according to the player demographics Mod MMG released earlier this year). You can take probably around 5-7 years to run out of existing content. Even a "hardcore" Player spends 7-13 hours on a day and would take a year or two to max out (again from those player demographics). In any case by the time you run out of content that was there when you started. You will still have more because a lot more was added in the interim. Runescape is the most prolifically updated MMORPG (Guiness Book of World Records) after all.

    And even after you 'do' everything there is still perfecting everything, ONLY 2 players have max Exp and about 16 players that are 3/4th at max exp. 

    Bang Bang 3hun oBLA!

  • SyanisSyanis Member UncommonPosts: 140
    I don't think a 2 year stretch would interest me but as a hardcore player I'd like a game that takes me 6 months to reach max, but even 3 months to reach max as a hardcore player with lots of time as the bare minimum. But I want a game with decent graphics for these days and not something that feels like I could have ran on my computer 10 years ago. I'd want something though that also stress's group play and community... screw that soloist mentality.
  • HelleriHelleri Member UncommonPosts: 930
    Originally posted by Syanis
    I don't think a 2 year stretch would interest me but as a hardcore player I'd like a game that takes me 6 months to reach max, but even 3 months to reach max as a hardcore player with lots of time as the bare minimum. But I want a game with decent graphics for these days and not something that feels like I could have ran on my computer 10 years ago. I'd want something though that also stress's group play and community... screw that soloist mentality.

    Than probably not Runescape. I mean if you have a really good machine HTML5 beta kinda works. But, do to not enough browsers supporting what they want to do they have had to suspend that indefinitely. Though group play has gotten a lot better. There are a couple of skills now almost based around it as well as a lot of xp sharing items and clans have full support too. Also a few activities and bosses it is necessary for. I really want them to introduce an over world party system eventually.

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  • ScypherothScypheroth Member Posts: 264
    you are not OP...i am with you....MMORPG players these days have it way to way to easy...its not about the game, effort and work any more...everythign is not handed to mmorpg players and the new way of mmorpgs cater to the lazy and weak hearted...gone are the day of being proud of what you have attained on your charater....
  • grindingamergrindingamer Member Posts: 65

    Atlantica is the turn based Runescape, grinding to level 160 can take a year, but imagine doing that for every mercenary you get. 

    You form a party of 9 and then as you get higher, you can recruit more or get event mercenaries and then level them up too. It's the only game in todays world that is grind heavy and doesnt look completely outdated. There's a huge crowd of Final Fantasy Fans that play atlantica because its very simliar especially the TBS mode at higher levels since its like FF Tactics. 

  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 7,081

    I'm playing Vanilla WoW.  It's taking me a few months just to get to level 44 with my Warlock playing very casual and love it. 

    Newer games like FF14 and ESO I would be in my 40s in a few weeks playing the same amount.  Well, I would be playing a newer game a little harder just because it's new.....But still way to fast. 

    And the newer games suck, so I wouldn't be playing them for long.  With newer games, it seems that when I understand all the game has to offer, do all the research, understand my class and all the dynamics, all the Youtubes, then when the honeymoon is over I instantly hate it at that point.

  • MaestrelisMaestrelis Member UncommonPosts: 11
    Lineage 2 will satisfy you.
  • WildstarrrWildstarrr Member Posts: 12
    Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

    Am I alone 

    Yes, yes your are.

  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 7,432

    Yes, I also miss MMOs (and even single player games) where leveling took some time and effort.

    I do not foresee this happening anytime again soon, as most players have no desire to waste that much time. Most of them need that reward much more often they use to.

    One has to realize, though, that each player has their own "tedium threshold" that games have to deal with. The more players that a game satisfies, the more they will sell, even if they are suffering in population within a few months.

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    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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  • PaRoXiTiCPaRoXiTiC Member UncommonPosts: 603
    I was a Runescape player back in college and if I can get my old account back I may just try it out again. Lineage 2 is catching my eye though. I think I will give it a go.
  • SosaBabySosaBaby Member Posts: 33


    Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC
    I was a Runescape player back in college and if I can get my old account back I may just try it out again. Lineage 2 is catching my eye though. I think I will give it a go.

    Dont bother, because of inflation your money/items are worthless, 1 mil used to be alot, its not minimum wage. And you can get most, if not all your stats to level 60 within a month and complete most free quests if you really try.

    Bang Bang 3hun oBLA!

  • ZakaryahZakaryah Member Posts: 7
    I can say that I also miss games like that. I played Knight Online for a brief time so I never reached the cap. I did play DAoC and back in the day it took a long time to lvl especially compared to now. I am not even sure DAoC is up and running a few years ago when I played the player base was almost non existent and the xp gain was ridiculous.
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