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Ok, so let's say they do make pre-CU servers...
anarchyart
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How many of you are going to come back and try and rebuild your online communities?
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I would. Balance the original system and keep the content from the expansions al etc. you'd get a pretty fine game.
Rebuild commiunity ?? why it has moved to GW, WOW & EVE
SWG community reminds me of playing RuneScape a few years back, as for pre-NGE anything run by SOE no i would'nt come back, but i may play SWG again if someone manages to finish building a time machine
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At this time, I don't know that I would. I think, before I were to get into that cycle again, I would wait to see if they actually kept the rolled back version or just used it to sucker vets back then dumped yet another "new and exciting update" on us. They don't have the best history of giving a damn about their paying customers so I wouldn't just jump right back into it. But it would be nice to connect with my old rebel friends on Corbantis again.
There would need to be some pretty spectacular changes and improvements to convince me to come back to swg. So long as LA are involved, I will never play it. All the rumors flying around about LA launching pre-CU servers etc, whether they turn out to be true or just rumours, is due to players voting with there wallets.
I doubt LA's rep with gamers has been raised since the nge, and it seems more like desperation to salvage some face and reputation rather than a feeling of giving the fans and paying customers what they want. I suppose from LA's point of view, %OE are taking the brunt of the flack, so if LA provide what the player base is crying out for, it will help boost there rep and confidence in the company.
I refuse to forgive and forget and allow myself to be sucked in and crapped on by LA for a 3rd time. The CU was bad, and I shouldn't have given $OE and LA a second chance, but I did and look what happened, they dumped the NGE on everyone.
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Yes
NGE Refugee.
Never enjoyed a game more than SWG. Still don't. Yes, I enjoy WoW and CoH, but not as much as SWG pre-cu.
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Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
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I agree. Nothing was ever that much fun. I'd drop whatever I was playing and rush back. Sure, they might hurt us again. But at least they'll know what the fans like.
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I hope so.
NGE Refugee.
IMO Pre-CU is better than NGE but lets not forget that the PRE-CU had big flaws, defense stacking, mind dmg FTW, exagg. buffs and then later the doc buff lines in coronet... If they launch a PRE-CU then the items above should be taken care of.
I would say that I would come back if such a thing happened, and though Pre-CU had its own problems, its unarguable (or at least thats my opinion) that CU and NGE are millions of millions times worse, if they kept it pre-cu instead of trying to change the whole game they could have concentrated on the problems that existed in pre-cu and dealt with them. Making a CU was a poor way to deal with things.
I can't believe all the complaints about buff lines. I played on Kauri. Granted it was not a large server at any time. However, I can't recall waiting anywhere for more than 5 minutes tops for a doc buff. There were so many buffbots and doctors, it was usually never a problem. I suppose the need for doctors was never balanced by greed for money on the rest of the servers.
I played a Master Doc character pretty much for the duration of my SWG career. Buffs were a great business. I recommended it to all that didn't want a combat char. moneymaking toon and didn't wish to compete in the crafting game. Apparently there was always room for more doctors and their buffs.
P.S. Please bring us PRE-CU
Well on bloodfin everyone wanted the best buffs , which only 2 -3 bots had . I remember at times being in line for up to 25 mins . Most of the time we buffed in our citys though being a pvp server kinda required that . which could take up to an hour getting everyone ready from 70-80 people at a time with maybe 4 -5 docs . And 2 entertainer bots . Can't say i miss all that .
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If they did go back to pre-CU, would they still update it? I mean, as other people said, there were some pretty big problems. The buffs, mainly. Everyone had them on 24/7. You couldn't do anything without them. PvP without all of the best buffs was suicide. It'd be nice to still have regular updates, just as long as they don't do anything too drastic.
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I hated buff lines. You had to plan ahead and know how long you were going to be online because it used to take an hour to get set up for anything. 10-20mins in line for a Doc buff, then another 10-20mins for an Ent buff then add on the time to organize a group. You were also at the mercy of Docs and greed did eventually get to them, just before the CU it was common to pay at least 20k for a buff. If you had to go offline part way into the buff, then you lost it and wasted the cash.
I enjoy the fact that I can hop on whenever now and know that I can actually do something without having to wait and pay someone else so I can go have fun.
I mean things they could change to make the pre-cu better:
Keep the doc buffs but let them be like 4h and if you die or log out you should have the buffs still until the end of the duration (this would have been an easy solution)
Mind damage should have been heal-able just like ordinary health damage by any char with simple heal skills.
Defense stacking was delt with by implementing caps in the first CU (was a good idea IMO)
DOTS should've been calculated like base dps after the CU (I dont mean after the NGE). Weapon with ordinary damage and DOT should've been added it up and the dps should've been equivalent to other weapons.
Also, I think you should've been a Master Combat Medic in order to apply DOTs. Until you reach master you should've have single damage (like grenades just less damage however the bonus of bypassing armor and additional states, stun etc).
These solutions would've been easier to implement without changing the core system radical. All the energy they have invested into programming the CU or NGE should've been for bugs and content.
I would only come back to SWG if:
1. They scrape this NGE crap and replace it with the old system
2. They take it away from SOE or SOE announces that the whole team responsible for NGE has been fired. Including Smed.
To the OP:
Can you add another option, if possible:
I would come back if the operating company would change as well - my trust in SoE is gone
That would be my answer.
Claude
I would probably try to transfer my char over there, since i haven't respec her (MCH). If not, would develop a new one, probably. Honestly, all this NGE thing went so far that I don't know. I miss the old days, but am angry enough not to stay, and none of my buddies would return to SWG anyway, so no garanties. That didnt stop me from coming back before NGE was out, and was having quite some fun untill they pulled the rug off my feet. The perfect combo would be to keep the vehicles pos CU with the extra seat, the pets could be either way, though I was having fun trying to get ubber lvl tamed ones, grinding the specials pos CU was quite dull, toke too long, so would prefer to have the BE pets instead.
The wounds used to bother us back then, but now we realise that the buff lines weren't so bad, we actualy had meeting spots, and filled cantinas. The combat was also way better both on pre CU and CU. Pre-Cu we had tons of broken specials but also some great directed shots i miss. Hiting the mind for example, poisons and such was nice. I was always awfull at pvp with my combo, carbineer /MCH, was ok with pos cu MBH/MCH, but still think i prefered to die often and feel the adrenaline then not feel it at all. Worst scenario now is a trip to the clone station, lol, no wounds, no decay, no nothing, no rush, no emotion, just yawns.
I had a pet with poison and disease i still keep on the datapad...it's on carbonite since her master was frozen too
Yes, I agree with ClaudeFR. I would only come back if Sony Online Entertainment and Lucasarts could show a dedication to the community they have turned their backs on and a true drive to fix Pre-CU. That would mean probably sacking most of the higher-ups that made these changes by putting them on different projects and bringing in new talent, preferably from outside either company but maybe that have worked with or on something for either company before.