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Wherefore art thou, Shadowrun MMORPG

ginettiginetti Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 301
I'm very familiar with a few Pen and Paper role playing games, one of those closest to my heart being Shadowrun.

There exists a SNES and Megadrive/Genesis verion of the game, each different, each fun, but does not - or cannot fully caputure the feel of the world shadowrun.

You can cyberware youself up - use bioware or become and adapt.  Study the power of becoming a Shaman or mage.

How about becoming a decker and jack into the matrix and fight mobs inside a cyber world (this was way before the movie "matrix" was even thought about).

There is just so much to this game that i believe would transelate well to a MMORPG.

What do you all thing... would you like to see a Shadowrun based MMORPG?

I know I would!

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  • deggilatordeggilator Member Posts: 520


    Yes, there's usually a couple of new threads each month about a Shadowrun MMORPG. ::::35::

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  • UmbroodUmbrood Member UncommonPosts: 1,809

    I bring up this subject once every 6 months or so here, because I to think shadowrun is probably the ultimate MMO setting.

    I play the SNES version now and then with an EMU and even though old I still think it is brilliant.

    I shall have to look up the sega one as well.

    My brother owns the shadowrun PnP setting and we have had great fun with it, the story and world would do so well as an MMO and the classes/skills/XP system as well.

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    Originally posted by Jerek_

    I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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  • GRIMACHUGRIMACHU Member Posts: 528

    This keeps coming up, will someone PLEASE explain the appeal of diluting the Cyberpunk genre with elves?!?

    And do we REALLY need another MMO with all the usual elves, dwarves etc?

    Why not something more interesting from the RPG world?

    Heavy Gear?
    Exalted?
    Legend of the Five Rings?
    Fading Suns?
    SLA Industries? (This seems to be tailor made for online play to me)
    Cyberpunk 2020

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  • ginettiginetti Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 301
    I can explain the appeal.

    Basicaly, elves don't have to be related to the fantasy setting we most commonly see them in.

    Shadowrun puts Ogres, Orcs, Elves, Dwarves, Humans and more in a Latter Setting.  Magic has been rediscovered and is seeping out of the earth - and the world is certainly in exciting/interesting/gripping/dangerous one to be involved in.

    Why should elves only fight with long swords ?

    When here they can choose between swords like katanas, mono katans (mine was almost in possession of one) or be a gun slinging cybered up machine...

    Or make your elf an adapt instead.

    The appeal of Shadowrun is just amazing to myself and, from the response i've got here already, to many others.

    Maybe this would be one for Blizzard to take on - the Sci Fi brilliance equivilant of WoW would just rock my world.

    Who would you like to see tackle a game like Shadowrun and faithfuly bring it to the MMORPG world?

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  • m1ndgamem1ndgame Member Posts: 17

    I like shadowrun.  That would be a pretty good MMO, the challenge would be in how to make riggers and hackers playable.  Loved the Sega game version of it, though.  It's beyond me why they don't make a single player rpg version. 

    It's been mentioned before, but the World of Darkness MMO, specifically Vampire the Masquerade, would rock as well.  Don't mean to steal the shadowrun thunder, but it would play into PvP so well, and it's really well-balanced. 

    Cyberpunk would be another good one.   

  • DrimliDrimli Member Posts: 21



    Originally posted by GRIMACHU

    This keeps coming up, will someone PLEASE explain the appeal of diluting the Cyberpunk genre with elves?!?
    And do we REALLY need another MMO with all the usual elves, dwarves etc?
    Why not something more interesting from the RPG world?
    Heavy Gear?
    Exalted?
    Legend of the Five Rings?
    Fading Suns?
    SLA Industries? (This seems to be tailor made for online play to me)
    Cyberpunk 2020



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  • druarcdruarc Member Posts: 182



    Originally posted by GRIMACHU

    This keeps coming up, will someone PLEASE explain the appeal of diluting the Cyberpunk genre with elves?!?
    And do we REALLY need another MMO with all the usual elves, dwarves etc?
    Why not something more interesting from the RPG world?
    Heavy Gear?
    Exalted?
    Legend of the Five Rings?
    Fading Suns?
    SLA Industries? (This seems to be tailor made for online play to me)
    Cyberpunk 2020



    Maybe because those of us who played it loved to play it. By far one of the best PnP games ever, and would take very little to translate into a MMO.

    It was also one of the first being released in 1989, where as the GURPS Cyberpunk wasn't released until the following year.

  • BlueCoyoteBlueCoyote Member Posts: 244

    Dungeons & Dragons was published 15 years before Shadowrun. Are you sure Shadowrun was "one of the first"? That seems like a very broad reference.

  • pyros98pyros98 Member Posts: 267

    I would love to see a Shadowrun MMO.  But I don't think there's any company that can do it right (at least that I have faith in...certainly not Blizzard).

    The appeal of Shadowrun isn't that fact that it's multi-racial (though it's a perk really).  As we said above, you don't need to equate these Shadowrun Elves with regular Tolkien kind.  For me the main draw of Shadowrun was the options of open to the player.  Anything was possible (well...nearly).

    You had

    • Vehicle combat (Land/air/sea)
    • Hack/slash combat
    • Magic combat
    • Ranged/gun combat
    • Decker (hackers essentially) combat (akin to jacking into the Matrix)
    • Dragons, Vampires, Cyborgs, and everything in between
    • Near limitless customability of your character (greater than that of CoH/CoV in appearance)

    You could be anything you desired...a macho, gunslinging cyborg elf...a classical axe wielding dwarf...a leet decker ogre...I saw all kinds when I played *misses his old Shadowrun buddies*

  • Weezy555Weezy555 Member Posts: 22

    Seems someone is listening.  It's not exactly what you asked for, but it might be a first step.

    http://features.teamxbox.com/xbox/1464/Most-Wanted-Unannounced-Xbox-360-Games/p1/

  • UmbroodUmbrood Member UncommonPosts: 1,809

    Nice find Weezy.

    It do seem probable that microsoft will somehow try to turn a profit from their purchase.

    Holding my hopes to microsoft?

    Never did I think that day would come.. :)

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  • deggilatordeggilator Member Posts: 520


    Originally posted by BlueCoyote
    Dungeons & Dragons was published 15 years before Shadowrun. Are you sure Shadowrun was "one of the first"? That seems like a very broad reference.

    He means one of the first cyberpunk themed pen and paper RPGs.

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  • UmbroodUmbrood Member UncommonPosts: 1,809



    Originally posted by rentantilus

    Technically off-topic, yet literally on-topic, you might be interested to know that "Wherefore art thou" really means "why are you," not "where are you." Juliet isn't asking where Romeo is in her famous balcony speech, because she thinks she knows exactly where he is: across town at his family's house (yet in most productions of the play, he's lurking in the bushes nearby). What she's really lamenting is why he's Romeo, the son of her father's arch nemesis. Okay, back on-topic!


    Thanks for the lesson, I did not know that, a day you learn something is always a day well spent. thanks.

    Ill restate the question then:

    Wherefore art thou, Shadowrun, not owned by a multibillionaire with a devout passion for both MMO's and the Shadowrun universe?

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    Originally posted by Jerek_

    I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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  • SinnSinn Member UncommonPosts: 93

    for people who are lazy to click the link

    http://features.teamxbox.com/xbox/1464/Most-Wanted-Unannounced-Xbox-360-Games/p1/

    The Premise: “The year is 2070. The world is not only Awakened--it’s wired. Cyber and bioware implants make your meat body better-than-flesh, while the wireless Matrix enhances your perceptions with hyper-real senses. Deals are made in steel and lead more often than gold or nuyen; success and failure live only a razor’s edge apart. Creatures of myth and legend walk the streets, while the arcane skills of spellslingers are in high demand. Above it all, monolithic megacorps bleed the world dry, sabotaging each other in covert cutthroat competition as they go to war over the bottom line.

    You’re a shadowrunner, a street operative, scratching out a living on the mean sprawl streets. You may be human, elf, dwarf, ork or troll. From lethal street samurai to well-connected info brokers, spell-slinging mages or code-cracking hackers. No matter what, you’re a professional corporate pawn or “deniable asset,” you get the job done.”


    That’s how we are introduced to the universe of Shadowrun, a cyberpunk-fantasy game that was created as a pen-and-paper role playing game by FASA Corporation in 1989. Shadowrun is one of the top-selling role playing games of all time and is well-known for its high-tech mix of man, magic, and machine.


    What We Know: You only need to go to www.shadowrun.com to find out who the developer of the game is. Yes, we are also happy to know that the franchise in the capable hands of the people that brought us MechWarrior, MechAssault, and Crimson Skies.

    Back in the 80’s, FASA Corporation created popular universes such as BattleTech, Earthdawn and Shadowrun; then in the 90´s, FASA Interactive Technologies was created to bring these franchises from the pen-and-paper world to the digital domain. Having acquired FASA Interactive in 1998, Microsoft also acquired the digital rights to these franchises, with the “analog” rights for these intellectual properties (except Crimson Skies) assigned to Topps’ WizKids Games.

    In an editorial at Xbox.com called “Lifestyle: Gen X” from March 1st, 2004, it was suggested that FASA Interactive was already working at that time on “the next big thing that the game world has no idea is about to hit it”. That editorial is no longer available at Xbox.com, but can be reached using Google’s cache here. Read the last three paragraphs and make your own conclusions…

    On November 12th, 2004, Microsoft Corp. filed a trademark application with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office for the “Shadowrun” mark, leading to believe that the software giant had indeed some plans for the franchise.

    Then last July, Theron Berson, a FASA Studio animator, accidentally let it slip that he was working on Shadowrun, revealing also that the game will be a first-person shooter.


    What We Want: Although a first-person shooter set in the Shadowrun universe could turn out to be the next “big thing” for Microsoft Game Studios, even bigger than the Halo franchise, we think that the Shadowrun universe is so rich that only a massively multiplayer game would do this franchise justice.

    When you take into account that Shadowrun is a Tolkien-meets-William Gibson universe in which elves, dwarfs, orcs, trolls, and vampires melt with modern weapons and Matrix-like technology for a man-meets-magic-and-machine experience, you realize this intellectual property is bigger than any other MMO universe.

    We want Shadowrun to be a massively multiplayer game, whether that is a MMORPG like the upcoming Marvel superheroes game or a MMOFPS like Huxley. We want the franchise to be so successful its gets its silver screen adaptation, but this time Microsoft convinces Peter Jackson to helm the director’s chair and not just act as an executive producer.

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    Rumor Has It: It has been rumored that Shadowrun uses the Unreal Engine 3 and the fact that Microsoft Game Studios licensed Epic Game’s next-generation technology and tools for its internal studios, but hasn’t yet announced a single game that uses the UE3 (Too Human, Crackdown and Gears of War are developed by second party studios) leads us to believe this rumor might be true.

    We also heard that in the game you’ll play as a Street Samurai, a part man, part machine freelance street operative and one of the many classes of runners found in the Shadowrun universe.

    Some industry sources claim Shadowrun (and not Halo 3) will be Microsoft’s answer to Sony’s PlayStation 3 launch in 2006 as the title it is supposed to have been in development for over two years now. Since the game hasn’t yet been announced, we find it hard to believe that such a big franchise will be unveiled this E3 for shipping the next holiday season, but only time will tell.

  • druarcdruarc Member Posts: 182



    Originally posted by BlueCoyote

    Dungeons & Dragons was published 15 years before Shadowrun. Are you sure Shadowrun was "one of the first"? That seems like a very broad reference.




    In context to the topic of cyberpunk yes it was.

    And chess was around before D&D so?

  • JenuvielJenuviel Member Posts: 960

    Here's another link for Shadowrun fans: Shadowrunner Nights

    It's not done (the official website is in a state of transition, too), but it looks like it'll be interesting to those who enjoy Neverwinter Nights.

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