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This games packs are getting alot of heat...
Scypheroth
Member Posts: 264
Well ever sinced they anounced the founders packs for this game they have been getting alot of heat from there community on both there forums and expecially ther facebook group....people are not happy with how a game that was looking to be a great thing has now turned into a p2w moneygrab...seems like ppl are asking for he prices to be lowerd and from what i can see on the foums alot of ppl wont be buying any packs due to the extream price...
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If you were part of the actual AO community on their forums, you would be less misinformed.
Most sales are the Legendary Packs which is their top pack.
I suggest reading and educating yourself more before you make threads with speculation and misinformation.
Link below.
Thanks.
"My Fantasy is having two men at once...
One Cooking and One Cleaning!"
---------------------------
"A good man can make you feel sexy,
strong and able to take on the whole world...
oh sorry...that's wine...wine does that..."
Hey there Scypheroth!
The purpose of founders packs are to support the development of the game, by allowing alpha access to those who support us in our development we are allowing them to have a direct impact on our development phase, that's the reason we chose to go for founder packs, I'm not sure how you equate this to being P2W, no power at all is being sold to the players and all of the founders gear are relatively low level meaning they will have no real impact on the game.
Freelance team member for Sandbox Interactive currently developing Albion Online.
All founder packs are money grabs. Don't let the naïve and fanbois tell you otherwise. You also do not have to buy them.
I was just about to ask what's in them that makes them so P2W? Did I actually miss something when I looked at them? :P
Scypheroth's also been complaining about the ArcheAge founder packs. So i wouldn't worry too much about it, he seems upset that he can't get free instant access to the games he likes.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
I get upset by them because of the general creep in what they offer and the prices they charge.
Take this as an example, five odd years ago when DDO went F2P did anyone truly believe that gambling packs would become so acceptable and ubiquitous in cash shops? I personally just did not believe that the player base would put up with it, but how wrong I was.
Now I see founder packs for $450 and it is just resulting in me withdrawing further from a genre that is becoming a cash grab.
Oh, I agree that the $450 packs are pretty outrageous. But the cheaper ones I simply see as Collector's Editions, which have been a standard for over a decade if not more. I still got my old Guild Wars 1 CE lying around, and my WAR box.
Does the $450 apply to Albion Online though? Last I checked the highest I saw was around $50.
Granted, I was in a hurry at the time, so maybe I missed a second page or something.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
$100 dollars I believe.
Ah yeah, I see it now.
Still not too bad compared to some out there, but everyone has to decide for themselves what it's worth to them.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
I edited my post, but for the sake of continuity will put it here: -
I was not talking about Albion, but founders packs as a concept.
However it is $100 I believe, which is still at the upper end of what I'd like to see. And remember that part of the pitch is that they offer $XX of in game currency, the dollar figure for which is entirely meaningless given that the developer can attach any arbitrary value they choose to in game currency.
I just dislike founder packs. I dislike the idea that people should pay outlandish prices to test someone unfinished product. On a related matter, I also dislike the fact that Kick Starter takes 5% of a successful projects funding but absolves itself of any responsibility for the fundamental feasibility of that project.
Basically the whole process strikes me as companies trying to avoid paying investors returns by tricking players into thinking they are part of some altruistic process. But in the meantime, these companies are making profit off your hard earned cash without paying out any dividends.
It's pretty much a direct result of the rise of "F2P", instead of taking pre-orders on boxes (which often also came with instant beta access) they now have "founder packs".
As far as I know most companies still do free betas too, although they are often tied to a promotion on a certain website these days it seems. (like the AA beta keys giveaway on this very website)
Things haven't changed all that much, the practices that have been there for years have just been wrapped in a new package (i.e. "Founder's Packs" instead of "CE with instant beta access").
On the bright side, you can simply try the game when it's out. And if it sucks you haven't lost the price of a box.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
Link in my Signature.
"My Fantasy is having two men at once...
One Cooking and One Cleaning!"
---------------------------
"A good man can make you feel sexy,
strong and able to take on the whole world...
oh sorry...that's wine...wine does that..."
"My Fantasy is having two men at once...
One Cooking and One Cleaning!"
---------------------------
"A good man can make you feel sexy,
strong and able to take on the whole world...
oh sorry...that's wine...wine does that..."
The F2P crowd was expecting the game to be made, published, and launched for FREE! Then after it was launched let other people buy things from the cash shop to keep the game going. The fact that someone is in fact paying for this experience before the F2P players get in and OH GOSH receiving something a free player does not get is apparently unacceptable! A travesty, its P2W!
I personally wont touch the game since its launching as a F2P. But F2P gamers have no say in how a F2P runs it's business. This community forfeited their right to value when they embraced this model.
Remember, just be careful what you wish for it just might come true.
As the Devs already stated: You can acquire every item (realistically) and every premium service without ever paying with real money.
Judging from your un-educated response, you never did any research on Albion Online before you hit the Enter key after you typed the text I quoted.
You are merely going with a presumption of the "stereotypical norm" in regards to your own personal past experience with other games.
You came here to the Albion Online forum to introduce your perception as a fact, in which you are wrong.
I and many others wished for a game with this model and it DID come True!
Are you going to try to justify your speculation based on your personal hatred of a certain payment model, that is totally optional? Since you have no interest in a F2P model anyway (according to your reply) does it really matter that much to you in the interests of Albion Online?
I think not.
Take care now.
"My Fantasy is having two men at once...
One Cooking and One Cleaning!"
---------------------------
"A good man can make you feel sexy,
strong and able to take on the whole world...
oh sorry...that's wine...wine does that..."
if you need to research check the link:
https://albiononline.com/?ref=4YR6C46K71
Nice spin on the F2P model but my analysis is correct. The monetization model is identical in all F2P games. The only difference is some games have items that are exclusive to the cash shop some do not. Some have more convenience items than others, but I'm not about dissecting the contents of the cash shop and each item it contains. That is irrelevant to my main point. Enjoy!
After reading all the comments..here's the deal.
If you don't want to buy a Founder Pack, then don't! Nobody is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to buy it. So stop with the bitching.
Just because your low on money and can't afford it doesn't mean that you have to bag it out as P2W.
To all those that have purchased Legendary or Epic Packs, they are supporting the development of Albion.
Also to those that purchased a Leg or Epic Pack...see you on the 15/16th
What's more disturbing is the growing trend of attacking any game that uses any method to make money. Profit is seen as evil. Regardless of the fact that no one is forced to buy any of these packs.
Basic economics is apparently not being taught in schools today. If it is i'm betting that profit in any form is being labeled as evil.