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Are consoles the future of the MMO Genre?
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Hmm, so things like GTA: Vice City, Plants Vs. Zombies, The Bard's Tale, etc. have nothing in common with their "big platform" counterparts?
***"your post lost every credibility already."***
Seems the OP has very limited tastes....
There is a heck of a lot more to digital entertainment than just console games. There are things you can only do with more a lot more horsepower.
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every played with a planetary engine?
You should see some of the toys you can play with for free.... You just got to know where to look.
Some people just have to learn to be more open minded... and that goes for both camps.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
I don't get why are you being so aggressive... I'm just raising some points on discussion, and youa re going off on a diatribe of inferno.
Console multipurpose as in media centre? Android box and media pc can also do the same... won't exactly call it "multi-functional". PDA phones and Handhelds, now THAT's multifunctional.
Also you have not really counter the most important point that is of development cost. I mean Sony Entertainment ain't exactly doing well right now, that kinda says a lot.
Also, with consoles having close platforms, game makers has to go out of their way to support you, which is why the there is now only 2 1/2 platforms left in the console space ( PS, XBone and Wii; and why Sega and Neo-Geo left the console making space and 3DO went bankrupt)
If it was open-platform and uses common hardwares it would've cost a lot less... but the problem is there is already something like these, ie. Android box and media pcs.
Really intrigues me why some people cannot debate a point calmly, lol
It's because it's the same thing as little man syndrome. They know they can't really compete in the long run, so they have to get louder and try to act like they know something the rest of us don't.
if you get things out of context to have a reason to discard my comment thats not my problem. You are talking about a small number of ports that came from the big platforms (PC and console). And still, Obviously they have to be downgraded (and PvZ upgraded for actual gaming platforms) so they can play properly on mobile devices, so no, they arent the same anymore. Let alone playing touchscreen controls over real controls (mouse/kb and gamepad). Since you mentioned some ports, ill give you an example of how bad mobile games can be compared to actual gaming platforms. Deus EX: The Fall. Tell me how good it is compared to a full fledged Deus Ex Human Revolution for PC or console.... And He is not talking about the Razer gaming tablet that uses windows. He is clearly talking about smartphones and tablets in general (just in case someone tries to slap the Razer tablet as another excuse)
Nothing out of context. You claimed he was making up stuff. Which is what you're now doing to cover your ass. As for dumbing down, what do you think a good PC game has to do to fit your 8 button controller? OR why the PC crowd still constantly complains about console ports? We get it though, we like smooth controls, high frame rates, lots of options, cheaper prices, better hardware.... while you guys like what basically amounts to tapping elevator buttons all day.
It really doesn't matter whay games or ports I'm referring to (because I wasn't even referring to any games or ports in particular).
What you got to think about is the functionality of each device and how much you need it in everyday life, as a working professional, today's world. That's my entire reasoning of why console has a very limited future:
- You NEED a PC for everyday work (or at least a reduced PC, such as an android box or media pc or tablet, so that you can do basic work functions)
- You want a media center (for leisure, you watch movies, browse internet, this can be done via PC, android box, media pc, console to a certain extent though not convenient, and PDA phones/handheld devices)
- You NEED a phone and a messaging services device (obviously the PDA phone/handheld trumps everything else in this arena. Computer can serve part of that more than the remaining devices)
- You want to play games (any of the platform above can serve that function)
So if you tally the score base on needs above, computer scores 3.5, PDA phones scores 4, Android Box/media PC scores 2.5 and console serves 1.5 (it is an entertainment device in terms of both movies and games, but that's all it is - and watching movies and streaming TV on it ain't even as convenient as using an Android box or media pc). Hence my justification on why console's significance is only getting less and less.
And why most electronic companies are pouring insane amount of resources into PDA phones. The return on investment are just so much higher.
I ain't even saying PC is top (in fact I'm saying PDA phone is, by far), but regardless of what it has nothing to do with the trend that console is on it's way to obsoletance - that's a trend on it's own because of what it is.
And I'm saying this while don't even like playing games on my Galaxy 4 Active.
1 - Answering your question: NO
2 - LoL is not an MMO.
3 - Neither Destiny(although it works like a themepark: solo until level cap plus instances with no meaning for the existence of an open world).
A good PC game doesnt have to be dumbed down to fit anything. Blame the companies like Ubisoft who like to screw over PC gamers so the console version doesnt fall behind compared to PC. They are not supposed to be on par with PC. Maybe Microsoft and Sony pay PC devs to not make superio PC versions? well, if that is the case then also blame PC devs for been greedy. Cheaper prices? PCs are expensive, with the price of a GPU alone you can buy a whole console. Yes the PC has better tech, because it is more expensive. I agree that games are cheaper on PC, but most of them are DRM so you are at Steams mercy. Im also a PC gamer but that doesnt mean i have to hate other platforms, im a gamer, not a pc master race troll.
Note: to address something on the previous post, I am very calm. He assumed i was being aggressive when i am not, and you made an ignorant comment about it. Dont make assumptions on the internet. And look at you now, who is bringing hostility?
Aren't they all? This site isn't exactly used for anything more than pissing contests and paid review numbers =P
Let's party like it is 1863!
No offense, I do believe what you said below was VERY FAR from calm, lol:
No once did I say I dislike console. I was merely critically analysing why it's futures and existence might be in doubt.
"Reasons to exist" is not the same as "you can not exist". I was pointing out the reasons.
no worries, you gave your opinion and i gave mine. Also, i dont know what to say if you consider those words as harsh or me not being calm for saying them.
Console gaming will die at some point. It's a 100% for sure thing. Yes, I said 100%. Let me explain.
First, keep in mind that when I say consoles will die, I mean as they are now. Meaning, consoles will still exist, but I don't think you can really call them a console anymore. Might as well just call them a PC since that is what they are.
The reason, why I am so sure consoles will die is because of price. The consoles revolutionized the gaming industry because it brought games to your living room for a pretty cheap price. It was easy. Pop in cart / disk and you are ready to play. As time progresses these features that make a console so great seem to vanish little by little.
Today, you can actually buy / build a computer for about $400 - $500 that will run probably at a similar performance of this gens consoles. If you wait for a sale, you could probably even build a better performing pc. Now of course, you can spend a whole lot on a graphics card ($300 - $600) if you so wish, like some people do. However, it isn't required to have the best of the best. In fact, in my opinion it is wasting money. Those super expensive parts will soon cheapen. That expensive price tag you pay is to get it first. With that said, if you want a really good gaming pc you really don't need to spend more than $1000, and that price will continue to drop as time progresses.
Sooner or later, computers will be cheaper than consoles. The only way consoles will be able to survive is by lowering their price point, and the question is. Can they do that?
With programs like Steam, games are pretty easy to start up now on a pc. They are also working on turning a computers into what a console is. As it stands now, a computer can do everything a console can. With the exception of split screen multiplayer. Keeping in mind computers are certainly capable of split screen multiplayer, just most games on pc don't have it, because most pc gamers don't need it. A pC can now be put in your living room and act exactly like a console if you so wish it too.
If you can get a better console experience from a pc ... why continue making consoles? All it would do is keep titles exclusive for really no reason at all. It means if you want to play all games, you need all platforms. It turns more expensive than it should be.
There is also a huge misconception that pc gaming is more expensive due to the price of a computer. That is also simply not true in the least bit. Not anymore at least. If you are a console gamer, just by 2 consoles will cost you more than most PCs that work better. Upgrading a pc, is cheaper than buying an entirely new console in most cases. Games are much cheaper as well. You don't have to pay extra for things like PSN or Xbox Live. When you really do the math, console are more expensive in the long run. Computers are just more expensive short term but it eventually pays for itself.
But, wait! There is more. A PC is capable of other tasks that a console isn't. You are getting more bang for your buck. It can work as an entertainment system that far surpasses what a console can do. It can play more file types as an example. A computer can be used for work and school. It van even be used as a communication tool. It's a massive collection of knowledge at your fingertips.
So TL;DR. Consoles are not a bad experience. In fact they where a revolutionary development in the gaming industry. The issue is the thing that made consoles so appealing is vanishing. PCs will replace consoles entirely at some point. There really is no reason for them not too.