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[Column] Elder Scrolls Online: Crafting Writs - A Reason to Log In Every Day

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  • TownfoolTownfool Member UncommonPosts: 15
     
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by Ikeda

     

    What's worse is that your just throwing said opinion out there as if it's the majority.  I don't believe it is.  I believe you will find the actual numbers are split somewhere between 3 ways... 33% favor, 33% hate, and then 34% are on the fence about the issue... meaning the majority of players do NOT favor it.

    Do a google search, then tell me if the community has even noticed them let alone cares. 

     

    You guys got me defending dailies image I'm done image

  • ShadanwolfShadanwolf Member UncommonPosts: 2,392

    For $15/month dailies are an insignificant reason to continue paying.

    ESO set the expectation bars height when they decided to charge a subscription. Now they have to deliver  on those expectations. I wish they would..

  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751
    Originally posted by bcbully

    Do a google search, then tell me if the community has even noticed them let alone cares. 

    Fine... Google returns the following:

    WoW Daily PVP quests 77 in favor/8 Not - http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1218356-PvP-daily-quests

    EQ Next Daily Quests 2 in favor/ 22 Not /2 Don't care - http://eqnexus.com/forums/threads/poll-daily-quests.185/

    General Daily Quest Poll 74 in favor/246 Not/340 In the middle - http://cstm.mymiddleearth.com/2013/03/poll-daily-quests/

    ESO (can't see results) - http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/128099/the-carrot-on-a-stick-is-this-what-keeps-an-mmo-fun

    So the consensus is:  153 in Favor/276 Not/350 in the middle = 779 total participants

    For the non-rocket scientists....  

    19% IN FAVOR

    35% NOT IN FAVOR

    44% IN THE MIDDLE

    Dayum if those numbers don't look close to what I said. 

    Now, if you'll stop correcting me....

    (For honesties sake, I discarded polls by the likes of iPad grind games like Clash of Clans and Simpsons and Family Guy as they are a whole different genre of gametype... one that I ALSO do not care for)

  • kujiikujii Member UncommonPosts: 190
    Wow exciting. Still no reason to log in. Once again a sad lack of originality and innovation.
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by Ikeda
    Originally posted by bcbully

    Do a google search, then tell me if the community has even noticed them let alone cares. 

    Fine... Google returns the following:

    WoW Daily PVP quests 77 in favor/8 Not - http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1218356-PvP-daily-quests

    EQ Next Daily Quests 2 in favor/ 22 Not /2 Don't care - http://eqnexus.com/forums/threads/poll-daily-quests.185/

    General Daily Quest Poll 74 in favor/246 Not/340 In the middle - http://cstm.mymiddleearth.com/2013/03/poll-daily-quests/

    ESO (can't see results) - http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/128099/the-carrot-on-a-stick-is-this-what-keeps-an-mmo-fun

    So the consensus is:  153 in Favor/276 Not/350 in the middle = 779 total participants

    For the non-rocket scientists....  

    19% IN FAVOR

    35% NOT IN FAVOR

    44% IN THE MIDDLE

    Dayum if those numbers don't look close to what I said. 

    Now, if you'll stop correcting me....

    (For honesties sake, I discarded polls by the likes of iPad grind games like Clash of Clans and Simpsons and Family Guy as they are a whole different genre of gametype... one that I ALSO do not care for)

    This is what you are resorting to? Threads about WoW dailies to bash ESO lulz. The thread you linked about ESO isn't even about dailies. 

     

    You know why you wont find one on the ESO forums from it's community? It's because it's completely inconsequential.

     

    This is like PETA coming after Jaguar for it's name and the glue it uses for it's panels! carry on. image

  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751
    Originally posted by bcbully

    This is what you are resorting to? Threads about WoW dailies to bash ESO lulz. The thread you linked about ESO isn't even about dailies. 

    You know why you wont find one on the ESO forums from it's community? It's because it's completely inconsequential.

    Back up just a sec.  I didn't bash ESO.  I bashed dailies.  I bashed the idea that the author makes it seem like a majority of players enjoy dailies.  

    They do not.  They're very childish quests that are mindnumbingly boring.  

    They more often make people dislike the game more by mandating daily play in order to achieve specific results.  If you play 7 hours on Sunday you will not achieve the same as a person who plays 1 hour a day for 7 days.

    I'm truly surprised to see you so blindly white knighting though.... aren't you still playing Wushu?

    Personally, dailies, in ANY game do not belong and are a cheap way to add to the hamster wheel rather than adding unique and meaningful content.

    But now that you mention it, the repeated use of the same dungeons (over and over) in ESO combined with this tells me a lot about the laziness of the development staff....  (there, I sniped at ESO, feel better now?)

  • AsboAsbo Member UncommonPosts: 812
    Originally posted by cronius77
    whats wrong with these dailies? Some of you people just complain to complain for the sake of it here. These are designed to help crafters get traits and resources without having to hit the guild auction houses or spend days running around looking for resources. The undaunted are there so people revisit old dungeons since dungeons scale now with group leader level. This adds reasons for people to go back into the dungeons and keeps the new grouping system active. Some people here whine about any and everything no matter what a company does its pretty ridiculous. 

    I'm offended by your comments about people complaining all the time!!! First and for most there is a difference with your interpretation of someone making a complaint and someone offering criticism and I for one think you treat everyone's comments as a complaint! Again if you think these companies create these dailies to help crafter's then you are just naive as hell. It does not matter how you dress them up they are a grind and it's an easy way for development companies to keep you in game and I for one hate them! If the game needs these to keep me playing then sorry I do not buy their products. I choose when I want to craft or do quests as and when, not just for the sake and they are the worse thing to enter MMO's in my opinion.

    The problem is that gamer's are like lemmings they are easily pleased and rather than standing up and saying enough is enough then these developers of games like Wow, Wildstar and many of the other stupid games that do these daily time sync tasks will continue to do if we carry to using them.  

    There is a far better way of keeping gamer's playing your games create systems which allow more social contact and brings the community together. That's why the early games like Ashrons call, EQI & EQ2 and even SWG did really well, they got people engaged in their game and created an environment for people to make friends and want to play with them more. ESO have made a massive mistake in more than one place in their current game...They allowed your character to join 5 guilds now apart from the obvious this being abused by greedy players of which there are many, but that's another issue for another days debate. That's what I call getting something for nothing syndrome.

    But there is no commitment for the player in ESO to give more than take in this guild floored system. Building a game which has tons of solo playing and little group content diverts the community away and splits it up and this is where all modern online games have gone wrong. The secret in my opinion is to create more group content and less solo content to get people playing as teams and get more from the game experience.

    I've been online gaming for 16 years and the amount of poor games which have been released over the last five years is nothing short of criminal, these companies continue to abuse gamer's because the average gamer has got greedy and I want now. Look at the amount of gaming companies charging people to test their games and get paid for it is a very shrewd business gain for them and a flaw for us the gamer as we give them our time for free and will then buy their product as we already paid for a stupid founders pack of almighty bull shit!

    We the gamer's have the power to say no, they want our money and we need to unite and fight against poor implementation in games and not just go out and pre-order every game that comes on the market. If we don't, then these sort of decisions will continue to waste our money and time again and again in the future.

    Asbo

  • Ides385Ides385 Member UncommonPosts: 82

    I understand the negativity labeled to dailies, but with the undaunted dailies I don't get the criticism. They're taking an underutilized part of the game that worked well and added a new way to access it.

     

    It's a run through all the group dungeons. If anything I'm disappointed it only rotates daily. That was my favorite part of the game and I'll have a way to get groups again. Of course more importantly they'll scale now. 

     

    With the crafting writs I get the criticism. Didn't expect much really.

     
  • BigbooBigboo Member Posts: 201

    Well... Dailys, is this really the main problem with the game?  Why dont make the game playable and fun first! Then people will logg in to play. 

    I dont logg in to Wow or Archage every night to do dailys, I logg in to run some dungeons, raids, pvp or just help friends with leveling.

    Mmorpg developers should focus on mmo and rpg features not boring grind quests.

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  • GendgiGendgi Member UncommonPosts: 16
    Agreed!

    -Meow -

  • elijafireelijafire Member Posts: 7
    Pretty much, they still have time to turn it around.
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722

    why not add those writs and other "dailies" rewards to the regular game activities? wouldn't that be easier to do AND even less boring than grinding dailies just to craft?

    Whether is for crafting, questing, pvp, etc, dailies are still dailies. Bad gameplay design that should have not been added to ESO (or any mmo).

     

    Dailies wont be my reason to resub and log in.





  • Bluefear77Bluefear77 Member UncommonPosts: 112

    I starting playing ESO again about 2 weeks ago.

    Today I just started my first crafting writ.

    My characters are around level 20 and around level 20 crafting.

    I've been given crafting writs for level 50 items. Is this a mistake??

    Or is this another brain dead decision of the developers of this game??

    I would appreciate any advice/help. I already did some research, but it doesn't appear I should be having this issue.

  • Shayyd80Shayyd80 Member Posts: 110
    I think they should add a "bounty" system similar to what SWG had for Bounty Hunters. It'd be fine for any pvp or pve player. Good rewards and XP. Etc.
  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977

    Dailies?  I'd have to say I think dailies are the worst thing ever created next to achievements.  What are they really?  Nothing more than someone telling you how to spend your time in the game.  Back in the day, before dailies and achievements... people did these things for their own amusement... no rewards, no titles, no achievement points... they did it because they came up with the idea.  Then the developers realized they could copy what the players were doing and make it into a feature.  Instead of getting nothing for doing these things, you got something.  But now, instead of it being a fun diversion that the player came up with, it's now a chore list that needs to be checked off.  The fun was removed from doing these things because it wasn't your idea anymore, it was theirs.

     

    Reality check people... if the game is fun, you don't need to drag people around by the nose... they'd come up with their own things to do without your interference.  But no, you put out a game that micromanages everything to such a degree as to remove all thought from the players themselves.  Like a hive of drones heading out to do their dailies... earn the same achievements... tick off all the right boxes on the list.

     

    If people need to be told what to do each and every day... it's no longer their idea nor is it fun.  Of course there are those that like structure and cannot come up with a unique idea of their own if it hit them over the head.  These people find fun in dailies.  Truth is, the more you tell us what to do, the less freedom there is to do stuff in the game.  You actually hasten peoples departure when you give them absolutes like this... just look at WoW... people stop doing stuff once they've earned all they care to earn.  Instead of coming up with things that may be fun to do, they just leave and come back when you deliver a new list of things for them to do.

     

    Dailies aren't a plus... not by any stretch of the imagination.

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