If anyone says they needed to hack to compete, they are full of crap. you can get anything you want as the game advertises, it just might not be in the time frame as you would like to get it. The biggest problem of course is land or lack of it and the problem honestly is XL games fault and the way they set it up. Can't tell you how many house's or farm's that are placed crooked or diagonal that leaves very little room for anyone else. Just yesterday I was able to buy my farm house and went looking for a spot. the amount of land that is set up for four 24x24 that had one house right in the middle so no one else could place was freaking crazy.
I think its both Trion AND XLgames fault. Trion knew based solely on founders pack sales that there would be a huge shortage of land. The crux is that they used to that fact to sell MORE founders packs.
And intentionally held back ready to go servers so all the founders would be confined to a few massively overcrowded servers, leaving all the rest for f2p/post launch people.
If anyone says they needed to hack to compete, they are full of crap. you can get anything you want as the game advertises, it just might not be in the time frame as you would like to get it. The biggest problem of course is land or lack of it and the problem honestly is XL games fault and the way they set it up. Can't tell you how many house's or farm's that are placed crooked or diagonal that leaves very little room for anyone else. Just yesterday I was able to buy my farm house and went looking for a spot. the amount of land that is set up for four 24x24 that had one house right in the middle so no one else could place was freaking crazy.
I think its both Trion AND XLgames fault. Trion knew based solely on founders pack sales that there would be a huge shortage of land. The crux is that they used to that fact to sell MORE founders packs.
And intentionally held back ready to go servers so all the founders would be confined to a few massively overcrowded servers, leaving all the rest for f2p/post launch people.
Absolutely, then they sell packs better than the founders ones at launch. Shady doesnt even begin to describe this little con job.
Absolutely, then they sell packs better than the founders ones at launch. Shady doesnt even begin to describe this little con job.
Pretty much yeah. The founder's packs have turned out to be one of the biggest cash grab scams I've ever seen in a game. Practically everything they originally offered was later changed for the worst, restricted or not provided at all.
No ability to provide the 10% discount they sold - easy enough though to launch a Halloween event based purely on the cash shop and gambling RNG boxes.
I didn't read every post here but I can say I was "raptured" and I'm not happy about it. I have heard nothing from my appeal but I'm a 46 year old Father of 4 kids who's lucky if he gets an hour a night after they are in bed, to play games and I was enjoying the game. I appreciate getting rid of all the crap that was going on but I just hope they get mine resolved.
The problem is, how much of your player base will you lose because the lengths they have to go to to be competitive? I personally wouldnt want to be a doormat to the tons of people cheating. I can see where hes coming from, no one likes to be bullied by cheaters.
Or consider that those who were willing to fall behind because they were unwilling to cheat are now the only ones winning.
The question is, are you trying to win the short game, or the long game.
I have to wonder about people claiming to be wrongfully banned though. As I've only ever been banned once from any MMO and that was due to an exploit through terrain ( DAoC ). I've played dozens upon dozens of games online and never bought gold, never used cheats and avoid exploits except to report them as bugs and I have yet to get accidentally banned from any of them.
Yet almost every game now has a thread of people who claim to be wrongfully banned. I just don't get it really. Unless you are borderline suspicious in your online activities, I really don't see how you are getting banned.
I have to wonder about people claiming to be wrongfully banned though. As I've only ever been banned once from any MMO and that was due to an exploit through terrain ( DAoC ). I've played dozens upon dozens of games online and never bought gold, never used cheats and avoid exploits except to report them as bugs and I have yet to get accidentally banned from any of them.
Yet almost every game now has a thread of people who claim to be wrongfully banned. I just don't get it really. Unless you are borderline suspicious in your online activities, I really don't see how you are getting banned.
The people who post "I've been wrongfully banned!" on forums will always be a minority of the population even if they really were wrongfully banned (unless EVERYONE in the entire playerbase gets wrongfully banned, but that's never going to happen unless something went horribly horribly hilariously horribly wrong).
For obvious reasons, people who are NOT banned do not post on the forums that they aren't banned. In addition, for less obvious reasons, many (not all) people who were rightfully banned don't post on the forums either, because they realize their chances of getting their account back that way are slim and there are other things they could do with their time (start a new account or complain to customer service in private to try to get the account back).
By the time you've removed those people as well as people who don't care about posting to forums in the first place, you're left with a very small portion of the population. Thus a forum with several "I've been wrongfully banned" posts but few "I've been rightfully or not-at-all banned" posts isn't reflective of the entire population's banned status.
If anyone says they needed to hack to compete, they are full of crap. you can get anything you want as the game advertises, it just might not be in the time frame as you would like to get it. The biggest problem of course is land or lack of it and the problem honestly is XL games fault and the way they set it up. Can't tell you how many house's or farm's that are placed crooked or diagonal that leaves very little room for anyone else. Just yesterday I was able to buy my farm house and went looking for a spot. the amount of land that is set up for four 24x24 that had one house right in the middle so no one else could place was freaking crazy.
I think its both Trion AND XLgames fault. Trion knew based solely on founders pack sales that there would be a huge shortage of land. The crux is that they used to that fact to sell MORE founders packs.
And intentionally held back ready to go servers so all the founders would be confined to a few massively overcrowded servers, leaving all the rest for f2p/post launch people.
Absolutely, then they sell packs better than the founders ones at launch. Shady doesnt even begin to describe this little con job.
Heh, there was like, almost no point/advantage to the head start to get a higher chance at getting some land whatsoever because of this (even if there weren't queue problems. Of course, the queue problems just made it even worse). If anything, your odds of getting land were actually higher without the head start and just starting on one of the new servers as soon as it came up, cause lots of other players were committed to the older servers by then so the newer servers were less overcrowded.
I have to wonder about people claiming to be wrongfully banned though. As I've only ever been banned once from any MMO and that was due to an exploit through terrain ( DAoC ). I've played dozens upon dozens of games online and never bought gold, never used cheats and avoid exploits except to report them as bugs and I have yet to get accidentally banned from any of them.
Yet almost every game now has a thread of people who claim to be wrongfully banned. I just don't get it really. Unless you are borderline suspicious in your online activities, I really don't see how you are getting banned.
I believe trion is thrashing like a wounded animal, as I heard someone put it. In other words theyre overdoing damage control from all the bad press theyve been getting for botting, exploiting, and hacking.
I believe trion is thrashing like a wounded animal, as I heard someone put it. In other words theyre overdoing damage control from all the bad press theyve been getting for botting, exploiting, and hacking.
That and the CEO who seems to be willing to say anything on reddit/twitter now to cling onto his job. 100% accuracy in the hacker sweep? Completely ridiculous claim.
I believe trion is thrashing like a wounded animal, as I heard someone put it. In other words theyre overdoing damage control from all the bad press theyve been getting for botting, exploiting, and hacking.
That and the CEO who seems to be willing to say anything on reddit/twitter now to cling onto his job. 100% accuracy in the hacker sweep? Completely ridiculous claim.
believe it or not its his on intrest and i think highest priority to detect and ban every hacker.
Do you believe they willingly accept others making profit with goods trion sells ? Any hack is for trion lost money, they can't accet it alone from the business point few of things.
Thats why i 100% believe this CEO, The banhammer will get any and everyone who exploit and hacks in the end .
Probably even in jail depending on the diffrent laws in country's.
and on the actual situation the official forums is full of delicious tears of banned hackers xD
I believe trion is thrashing like a wounded animal, as I heard someone put it. In other words theyre overdoing damage control from all the bad press theyve been getting for botting, exploiting, and hacking.
That and the CEO who seems to be willing to say anything on reddit/twitter now to cling onto his job. 100% accuracy in the hacker sweep? Completely ridiculous claim.
Yep but you cant combat the yes men that make up so many players. Even the ones that know for a fact that Hackshield is not only useless but detrimental as well as picks up on a great many false positives. The thing thinks that Microsoft Security Essentials is a hacking tool...and no, I am not saying that someone using MSE shouldn't be smacked...just that Hackshield is a fools tool and is getting people false flagged and thus innocents are being banned.
And this is coming from someone not playing this version, but the Japanese version where hacking isn't an issue, thus I have no reason to say anything for or against all this idiocy.
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I don't consider it to be cheating. It's evening the playing field.
I wanted to know, "evening the playing field" against what exactly?
In AA if you are not planning to grab a castle (which clearly your guild is not, since you only have a few people as you say) there are really nothing competitive about the game. It is a game of "personal improvement".
Even if you ARE going for castle it is a game of 70vs70, supergearing only 4 guys out of 70 is like a drop in the ocean.
There are so many ways to get gear that DOESN'T require money (hasla, GHA, etc) that it is ridiculous imo to even use competition as an excuse. On top of that once you get to a certain level of gear there is really not enough difference or ehough improvement in stats between getting GHA gears vs spending 25000 gold on celestial gears. If your skill rotation is correct and you get the jump you will still be killing people.
You are not talking LoL here. This "evening the playing field" justification is absolute nonsense.
I don't consider it to be cheating. It's evening the playing field.
It's the main reason why I'm not appealing my ban. I no longer wish to play this game as it's my firm belief that Trion/XLGames are at fault for a lot of the hack use. Had they been proactive and addressed the issue much sooner or at least not denied their existence to give player's some sort of acknowledgement they were working on it, I would not have hacked nor would my guild mates.
To essentially force their players to hack then subsequently ban them for hacking is ludicrous. It's entrapment and something I want absolutely no part of.
My god man, listen to yourself.
Plenty of us are doing very well without resorting to cheating, why couldn't you?
Blaming Trion for 'making' you hack... Just laughable.
I don't consider it to be cheating. It's evening the playing field.
Trion had all of alpha, beta and the first month of launch to fix these hacks. Not only did they not fix them but Hartsman came out numerous times denying their existence. As a player who saw their use day in and day out, what am I suppose to do?
Either we (guild) were going to get no land and thus be locked out of half the features the game offers or we were going to have to use hacks to get land also. We choose the later option.
It's the main reason why I'm not appealing my ban. I no longer wish to play this game as it's my firm belief that Trion/XLGames are at fault for a lot of the hack use. Had they been proactive and addressed the issue much sooner or at least not denied their existence to give player's some sort of acknowledgement they were working on it, I would not have hacked nor would my guild mates.
To essentially force their players to hack then subsequently ban them for hacking is ludicrous. It's entrapment and something I want absolutely no part of.
"Either we (guild) were going to get no land and thus be locked out of half the features the game offers or we were going to have to use hacks to get land also. "
So you and your buddies decided to screw over other people with your cheating.. Yes? You are very low.
" I no longer wish to play this game"
So...you cheated, you got banned and no longer wish to play because TRION is at fault for you installing cheating software on your computer. Right? THEY are at fault for you executing the executable to begin hacking. Yes? Am I reading that right? Because to me it sounds like you are the one that did the hacking, not trion. Yes, they are pretty incompetant if they didn't fix this sooner. But that doesn't mean you need to follow suit and assist in screwing up a game. There are tons of people who are playing the game, or trying, very legitimately and have been slighted because of people like you and many others in this thread.
As the old saying goes, "If your friend jumped off the bridge, would you?" . If people are botting, would you? I guess the answer is yes. Digital land is important.
I believe trion is thrashing like a wounded animal, as I heard someone put it. In other words theyre overdoing damage control from all the bad press theyve been getting for botting, exploiting, and hacking.
That and the CEO who seems to be willing to say anything on reddit/twitter now to cling onto his job. 100% accuracy in the hacker sweep? Completely ridiculous claim.
Honestly, and this is hard for me to say because I distrust developers so much, but I would trust and believe what he says over the "wrongly accused" at this point. Theres so many of them. I really wouldn't trust any of them.
I believe trion is thrashing like a wounded animal, as I heard someone put it. In other words theyre overdoing damage control from all the bad press theyve been getting for botting, exploiting, and hacking.
That and the CEO who seems to be willing to say anything on reddit/twitter now to cling onto his job. 100% accuracy in the hacker sweep? Completely ridiculous claim.
Honestly, and this is hard for me to say because I distrust developers so much, but I would trust and believe what he says over the "wrongly accused" at this point. Theres so many of them. I really wouldn't trust any of them.
Yeah, many of those are hard to believe.
On the other hand, I tend to believe the burden of proof lies with Trion and the individuals (most are paying customers) should be innocent until proven otherwise. Perhaps they should start naming their proof in the threads. For many, it would be a welcome change.
Yet, statistically speaking the CEO is making a fool of himself. Again, imo. The claim that their heuristic provides 0 false positives while they keep unbanning people is ridiculous at best. It's a software. Of course there are false positives and Trion clearly has procedures set up for those cases. It's a very justifiable and needed tool, but claiming that people should never contest their bans in any possible case is a dangerous thought.
Not only got the cheaters banned but also any gold thrown into Archeage by illegitimate way from those gets removed - on any account it is located atm ! .
That way also the buyers of "dirty gold" get their share of punishment while buying illegal gold and supporting gold hackers that way.
oh the tears are delicious atm.
btw good news for legit accounts, prepare for more free land !
i managet to get my one plot of land and little farm with no hacks; just running around like a maniac the first few hours the server was open
if i could do it, so can you cheaters. I'm slow at this kinda thing.
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
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And intentionally held back ready to go servers so all the founders would be confined to a few massively overcrowded servers, leaving all the rest for f2p/post launch people.
Absolutely, then they sell packs better than the founders ones at launch. Shady doesnt even begin to describe this little con job.
Pretty much yeah. The founder's packs have turned out to be one of the biggest cash grab scams I've ever seen in a game. Practically everything they originally offered was later changed for the worst, restricted or not provided at all.
No ability to provide the 10% discount they sold - easy enough though to launch a Halloween event based purely on the cash shop and gambling RNG boxes.
Or consider that those who were willing to fall behind because they were unwilling to cheat are now the only ones winning.
The question is, are you trying to win the short game, or the long game.
All die, so die well.
People who cheat also tend to be liars.
The people who post "I've been wrongfully banned!" on forums will always be a minority of the population even if they really were wrongfully banned (unless EVERYONE in the entire playerbase gets wrongfully banned, but that's never going to happen unless something went horribly horribly hilariously horribly wrong).
For obvious reasons, people who are NOT banned do not post on the forums that they aren't banned. In addition, for less obvious reasons, many (not all) people who were rightfully banned don't post on the forums either, because they realize their chances of getting their account back that way are slim and there are other things they could do with their time (start a new account or complain to customer service in private to try to get the account back).
By the time you've removed those people as well as people who don't care about posting to forums in the first place, you're left with a very small portion of the population. Thus a forum with several "I've been wrongfully banned" posts but few "I've been rightfully or not-at-all banned" posts isn't reflective of the entire population's banned status.
Heh, there was like, almost no point/advantage to the head start to get a higher chance at getting some land whatsoever because of this (even if there weren't queue problems. Of course, the queue problems just made it even worse). If anything, your odds of getting land were actually higher without the head start and just starting on one of the new servers as soon as it came up, cause lots of other players were committed to the older servers by then so the newer servers were less overcrowded.
I believe trion is thrashing like a wounded animal, as I heard someone put it. In other words theyre overdoing damage control from all the bad press theyve been getting for botting, exploiting, and hacking.
That and the CEO who seems to be willing to say anything on reddit/twitter now to cling onto his job. 100% accuracy in the hacker sweep? Completely ridiculous claim.
believe it or not its his on intrest and i think highest priority to detect and ban every hacker.
Do you believe they willingly accept others making profit with goods trion sells ? Any hack is for trion lost money, they can't accet it alone from the business point few of things.
Thats why i 100% believe this CEO, The banhammer will get any and everyone who exploit and hacks in the end .
Probably even in jail depending on the diffrent laws in country's.
and on the actual situation the official forums is full of delicious tears of banned hackers xD
/GG Trion
Yep but you cant combat the yes men that make up so many players. Even the ones that know for a fact that Hackshield is not only useless but detrimental as well as picks up on a great many false positives. The thing thinks that Microsoft Security Essentials is a hacking tool...and no, I am not saying that someone using MSE shouldn't be smacked...just that Hackshield is a fools tool and is getting people false flagged and thus innocents are being banned.
And this is coming from someone not playing this version, but the Japanese version where hacking isn't an issue, thus I have no reason to say anything for or against all this idiocy.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
I wanted to know, "evening the playing field" against what exactly?
In AA if you are not planning to grab a castle (which clearly your guild is not, since you only have a few people as you say) there are really nothing competitive about the game. It is a game of "personal improvement".
Even if you ARE going for castle it is a game of 70vs70, supergearing only 4 guys out of 70 is like a drop in the ocean.
There are so many ways to get gear that DOESN'T require money (hasla, GHA, etc) that it is ridiculous imo to even use competition as an excuse. On top of that once you get to a certain level of gear there is really not enough difference or ehough improvement in stats between getting GHA gears vs spending 25000 gold on celestial gears. If your skill rotation is correct and you get the jump you will still be killing people.
You are not talking LoL here. This "evening the playing field" justification is absolute nonsense.
My god man, listen to yourself.
Plenty of us are doing very well without resorting to cheating, why couldn't you?
Blaming Trion for 'making' you hack... Just laughable.
"Either we (guild) were going to get no land and thus be locked out of half the features the game offers or we were going to have to use hacks to get land also. "
So you and your buddies decided to screw over other people with your cheating.. Yes? You are very low.
" I no longer wish to play this game"
So...you cheated, you got banned and no longer wish to play because TRION is at fault for you installing cheating software on your computer. Right? THEY are at fault for you executing the executable to begin hacking. Yes? Am I reading that right? Because to me it sounds like you are the one that did the hacking, not trion. Yes, they are pretty incompetant if they didn't fix this sooner. But that doesn't mean you need to follow suit and assist in screwing up a game. There are tons of people who are playing the game, or trying, very legitimately and have been slighted because of people like you and many others in this thread.
As the old saying goes, "If your friend jumped off the bridge, would you?" . If people are botting, would you? I guess the answer is yes. Digital land is important.
Honestly, and this is hard for me to say because I distrust developers so much, but I would trust and believe what he says over the "wrongly accused" at this point. Theres so many of them. I really wouldn't trust any of them.
Yeah, many of those are hard to believe.
On the other hand, I tend to believe the burden of proof lies with Trion and the individuals (most are paying customers) should be innocent until proven otherwise. Perhaps they should start naming their proof in the threads. For many, it would be a welcome change.
Yet, statistically speaking the CEO is making a fool of himself. Again, imo. The claim that their heuristic provides 0 false positives while they keep unbanning people is ridiculous at best. It's a software. Of course there are false positives and Trion clearly has procedures set up for those cases. It's a very justifiable and needed tool, but claiming that people should never contest their bans in any possible case is a dangerous thought.
Not only got the cheaters banned but also any gold thrown into Archeage by illegitimate way from those gets removed - on any account it is located atm ! .
That way also the buyers of "dirty gold" get their share of punishment while buying illegal gold and supporting gold hackers that way.
oh the tears are delicious atm.
btw good news for legit accounts, prepare for more free land !
/grats Trion
i managet to get my one plot of land and little farm with no hacks; just running around like a maniac the first few hours the server was open
if i could do it, so can you cheaters. I'm slow at this kinda thing.
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
Currently Playing EVE, ESO
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
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