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I learned a valuable lesson.

KnotwoodKnotwood Member CommonPosts: 1,103

That lesson is this.  No matter how much I love a game, it must always have fun in it.   When I first tried Archeage, I just assumed it would be like any other mmo made in the last five years.   I was wrong.

 

I love the way it is set up, I love how you can run around at 20 and do what ever fun thing you want and still be leveling up.  I love how you have an open world without instanced zones for the world map.   I love how long it takes to sail accross a sea.  I love how I have to run trade packs across pvp zones sometimes sneaking and jumping off airships for earning my gold.   I love how I can glider for a mile off a cliff and feel like I'm actually doing these things.

 

What all these things I love in this game have in common, is that it is FUN.   I have played so many games in the past five years that were not fun that I started to accept that as normal for every new game.   After trying out Archage for the last few weeks, It brought me back to the Old School days of when games had alot of FUN in them.  

 

Bottom line, a game needs fun first and foremost,  this game has won me over with FUN factor 10.  Something the last five years of games have not been able to do.

Comments

  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 3,069
    Games are entertainment, not a job. I can't imagine someone playing a game if they weren't having fun with it.
  • emotaemota Member UncommonPosts: 413
    Unfortunately knot it wears thin quickly, everybody I know has already stopped playing.
  • KnotwoodKnotwood Member CommonPosts: 1,103
    Originally posted by emota
    Unfortunately knot it wears thin quickly, everybody I know has already stopped playing.

    Currently living on 4 hours of sleep a day.  I havent been  able to do that since EQOA launch in 2003.  I hope this ride never stops to be honest.

  • CalexCalex Member UncommonPosts: 99

    I had fun for the first week then the second week the game just fell flat for me. I haven't played it since.

  • JDis25JDis25 Member RarePosts: 1,353

    Archeage is a wonderful game and feels alive and breathing.................a true fantasy world to live and trade.

     

     

    And it is being assaulted by all manner of real world problems; quasi-acceptable advantages for those who spend more $, hackers, botters, downtimes etc. Without these issues, the game at it's core is fantastic.

    Now Playing: Bless / Summoners War
    Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989
    Originally posted by emota
    Unfortunately knot it wears thin quickly, everybody I know has already stopped playing.

    Thin view on opinion here....

     

    If you are having fun...keep goin. I'm not a fan of AA so far  but am a fan of having fun. Keep on truckin

    "This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."

  • JabasJabas Member UncommonPosts: 1,249
    Originally posted by emota
    Unfortunately knot it wears thin quickly, everybody I know has already stopped playing.

    Everybody i know in RL and web friends are still playing more and more since launch day. image

  • JJ82JJ82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,258
    Originally posted by Jabas
    Originally posted by emota
    Unfortunately knot it wears thin quickly, everybody I know has already stopped playing.

    Everybody i know in RL and web friends are still playing more and more since launch day. image

     wow, everybody you know in RL eh?

    Your parents, grand parents, boss (teachers if in school), sisters, brothers, cousins, old cranky neighbor that yells at kids to get off their lawn...everybody.

    Clearly not a biased statement at all.

    "People who tell you you’re awesome are useless. No, dangerous.

    They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
    http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/

  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,054

    Glad to read you are having fun Knotwood, and your realisation is great. Unfortunately mine has been the other way around, on paper everything Archeage had to offer looked like fun to me, in game however I found most tasks incredibly boring. Questing, fighting, farming, trade runs, building, playing the economy, crafting, none of it gave me any joy and the stupid thing is I can not put my finger on it, I should be loving this game to death but it intices nothing more then a simple 'meh.' It made me realise that no matter how awesome all of its features, a game indeed has to be fun or it all falls flat.

    It has been an expensive lesson after spending 150 bucks on the Archeum pack but still a lesson well learned for me. What didn't help was the constant gold spamming and extensive botting, I am also not a big fan of the cash shop, but could have been more then willing to look past these issues if the game was hitting all the right notes for me.

     

    At the end of the day all that matters is if you are having fun or not, screw the rest. Glad you found that game Knotwood, I pray EQN will be that special place for me.

     

    /Cheers,

    Lahnmir

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    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


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    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    I hope your enjoyment lasts longer than mine :)
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  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977
    Originally posted by Iselin
    I hope your enjoyment lasts longer than mine :)

    It only has to last until next Thursday... then WoD will be the game everyone is playing.

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by Pepeq
    Originally posted by Iselin
    I hope your enjoyment lasts longer than mine :)

    It only has to last until next Thursday... then WoD will be the game everyone is playing.

    I've been resisting the pull so far. But WOW is like a comfortable old pair of shoes. I've quit WOW many times but I've never hated it... I just get bored after a while but I go back at some point after each major update. I doubt I'll be doing that next week but sometime in the next few months it's quite likely.

     

    I have a good guild in AA so I keep logging in and maintaining my farms while I chat to them in TS. That used to be just one of the reasons I looked forward to logging in.... now it's pretty well the only reason.

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • JabasJabas Member UncommonPosts: 1,249
    Originally posted by JJ82
    Originally posted by Jabas
    Originally posted by emota
    Unfortunately knot it wears thin quickly, everybody I know has already stopped playing.

    Everybody i know in RL and web friends are still playing more and more since launch day. image

     wow, everybody you know in RL eh?

    Your parents, grand parents, boss (teachers if in school), sisters, brothers, cousins, old cranky neighbor that yells at kids to get off their lawn...everybody.

    Clearly not a biased statement at all.

    Hmm, i know my english is weak but i thought using the word "still" means those who start playing with me.

    Maybe my english sentence is not correct, i apologize for that.

    The friends in RL i mentioned is the people that start play with me ArcheAge since the 1st week of launch.

  • SidQFTSidQFT Member UncommonPosts: 96

    still having fun?!?

     

    lol

  • SaunZSaunZ Member UncommonPosts: 472

    OP,

     

    I'm with you... I'm having a blast in AA!

     

    following your thought process:

    1) I love how the rivers have current and once during open world pvp I got knocked into a river and it swept me down through 2 zones... I was lol'n and reminded me of going rafting with my bf... where I spent a ton of time falling off the raft and getting swept down river a long way.

    2) I love how everybody thinks healing sux, but once you actually figure out the combos it is a blast!

    3) I love how peepz say they are tanks, but if they aren't spec'd in right my healz pull threat and we all wipe... everybody knows there aren't many REAL tanks.

    4) I love how peepz say they are healz, but if they aren't spec'd in right they are just useless dps... that give me time to run out while they are dying.

    5) I love how quests are FAST/QUICK

    6) I love how toons have mass and you can get pushed around... like NY City.  I was getting ganked, ran to a safe spot near a guard in a village, went to get a drink, came back and the ganker was summoning his mount and dismissing it... as it ran away it would push me a little further from the safe place.  LOL, he was going to do that until he could gank me!   That is F'n awesome!

    7) I know this is a touchy point, but I LOVED the EPIC pvp last night in the opening of Auroria (sp?)... that was breath-taking!

    8) As I said in another post, I LOVED getting my ship... acquiring it and building it was the most fun and excitement I have had since getting my warlock mount in vanilla wow, the hard way!

     

    OP, you definitely get it and it is definitely FUN!

     

    Sz

  • ThestrainThestrain Member CommonPosts: 390
    Originally posted by Jabas
    Originally posted by emota
    Unfortunately knot it wears thin quickly, everybody I know has already stopped playing.

    Everybody i know in RL and web friends are still playing more and more since launch day. image

    I love clever posts like these.

    *everyone i know in RL and web friends love this game*

    *everyone i know in RL and web friends hate this game*

    Take your pick. which one reeks of desperation more.

  • ThestrainThestrain Member CommonPosts: 390
    Originally posted by Knotwood

    That lesson is this.  No matter how much I love a game, it must always have fun in it.   When I first tried Archeage, I just assumed it would be like any other mmo made in the last five years.   I was wrong.

     

    I love the way it is set up, I love how you can run around at 20 and do what ever fun thing you want and still be leveling up.  I love how you have an open world without instanced zones for the world map.   I love how long it takes to sail accross a sea.  I love how I have to run trade packs across pvp zones sometimes sneaking and jumping off airships for earning my gold.   I love how I can glider for a mile off a cliff and feel like I'm actually doing these things.

     

    What all these things I love in this game have in common, is that it is FUN.   I have played so many games in the past five years that were not fun that I started to accept that as normal for every new game.   After trying out Archage for the last few weeks, It brought me back to the Old School days of when games had alot of FUN in them.  

     

    Bottom line, a game needs fun first and foremost,  this game has won me over with FUN factor 10.  Something the last five years of games have not been able to do.

    Hey knwotwood i am happy that you a re enjoying so much but i have to ask...

    What is your stand on ESO and it hitting 10 million by end of the year? we only have another two months till this year ends.

    Yous till think 10 million is a possiblity?

     

  • D_TOXD_TOX Member UncommonPosts: 269
    I cannot get over the Koreanyness of it. Literally cannot stand the asian art style. Otherwise im sure it would be a very good game. Cutesy wutesy mounts? Anime characters? It's all so feminine it hurts. No thanks. 
  • JacobinJacobin Member RarePosts: 1,009

    You are in the honeymoon phase.

    Sure farming and packs seems cool since it is different than other MMOs, but it gets old real quick. AA at 50 becomes ground hog day where you just repeat the same few tasks to burn labor over and over again just to take a shot at the crafting/regrade casino.

  • Walkyier70Walkyier70 Member UncommonPosts: 67

    after 3 months alpha and few months after release i removed it from pc

    its fun elements get washed away rather quick after 50

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by Nihilist

    You are in the honeymoon phase.

    Sure farming and packs seems cool since it is different than other MMOs, but it gets old real quick. AA at 50 becomes ground hog day where you just repeat the same few tasks to burn labor over and over again just to take a shot at the crafting/regrade casino.

    That's one of the weirdest things about this game that is not readily apparent.

     

    Once upon a time we had the best gear because we succeeded in heroic deeds of playing the game.... here, it's a matter of going up against the Random Number Generator enough times and hoping for the best... it's so many order of magnitudes beyond traditional MMO grinding that it deserves a brand new name.

     

    Imagine yourself playing a game of blackjack and always holding just the two cards you're dealt... now do that until you've won $100,000.... Grats! you now have your first piece of top-end gear... start over again for the next one image

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • Moar61Moar61 Member UncommonPosts: 260
    I really like the ideas AA uses, there's some incredibly cool things about it. It's execution and korean design turns me away from it though
  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    Originally posted by Forgrimm
    Games are entertainment, not a job. I can't imagine someone playing a game if they weren't having fun with it.

    A lot of people play games they don't like for money.

    When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
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