:-D Bf4? Fifa15? Nfs:Rivals? Fell free to add your game. This company scammed so much that the economic suicide unluckly won't give its result soon. This is my only concern. EA itself is a trap...for your wallet :-p
This is typical for EA. Anyone remember that Warhammer arena game? After Warhammer online was flopped they had this idea to make a F2P game that would be PvP only. Using the universe and the models they already had. Not a bad idea but it went into a beta hell. For a long long time it was in beta, longer then it was announced. It was hard to play the beta as well as it was locked to regions and weekends to play.
The game wasn't even properly released yet or they pulled the plug. I can't even remember if it had been officially released or canceled during beta.
There are way too many MOBA's atm and a hell lot more coming. Just like MMORPG's i don't think the LoL fanbase is gonna leave LoL to play another MOBA. Same for DOTA2 players. Its a bit overcrowded, you won't make huge profits anymore. EA always seems to chase popular games and forget to make their own. Battlefield was great until they tried to make it a CoD killer, Warhammer Online was rushed to compete with WoW, etc etc. They keep making these mistakes and don't give it much time to become succesfull.
The fact that plenty of people here haven't heard about this game should say enough. Maybe they should have advertised it better so people would know and then it could be profitable enough to keep it alive. Just typical EA, they never really know what to do with games unless its a sport game.
I did not spend a lot of time on this game myself - one or two rounds to be fair, but what struck me right off the bat was this:
1: i've played lol since it came out. that's what? 4 or 5 years now? can you begin to realize the "work" i've put into that game to unlock every champion, 20 rune pages and all the runes i feel i need, not to mention the money i used on boosts and skins? Then concider my willingness to start that all over again in a new game that does basically the same for a gameplay experience, and that my friends are equally willing to start building up all over again - as in not at all.
2: they're obscuring stats - there are simply too many of them on each item and nothing is called anything you're used to. i'm generally good at seeing trough new systems and recognizing when something gets a new name, but this game just clears the slate and has you guessing all over again.
3: gameplay strategy is super confusing - i hear towers were supposed to rebuild - never had that happen and i have no idea why, 'cause the game doesn't tell me anything useful. gold mines are placed away from your focus and there are no warnings to draw your attention and nothing is marked properly on the minimap. i may have had an early build, but the amount of info the game gave me was just ridiculously low for such a strategically diverse game.
Conclusion: i'm not going anywhere unless i am offered a one-time-buy for full unlock and the game does something new enough to pull my friends with me.
Since you are so informed, you'll want to say me how to obtain a refund then. Games were bought via paysafe card. Lemme know. When i hear EA i nearly hear scamming in this moment. Any their game out of the market is a Bless not a shame. And the sudden disappearing of this game (that sumone enjoyed it seems) it's the demonstration of how much EA cares about money people spent in their games.
Edit: did u even tried to go to their "solution" forum? Did u ever try to apply for a refund? Did u eve stayed online for 3 hours waiting for the live chat? Do you have a clue of what you said? You speak cause of personal experience or just "because you heard that"?
Whiteknights...pffftt...
They just announced the shutdown and refund offer.
You really think you would be immediately first in line at customer support on the same day of the announcement?
i think i was not clear, tho i'm happy (or enraged?:-p) I don't know about this game, but i'm happy for you if u are getting refunded for it. U deserve it. Just i wish that EA had the same attitude for major games that were released in pre-alpha state like the games i named. Refunding people for a "no-one-knows-about-it" game it's easy. Refunding on a major title is another thing. That was what i was complaining about. But sumone unable to read confused waters even more.
Also: Online games are not like single-player ones. You pu effort and long-time expectations....will EA refund this too?. For someone time is not important, for me it is.
Like someone said here, EA thoughts are "If the game grants me a new Lamborghini within 2 day from the game launch then it's ok, otherwise it's not worth keeping it alive".
i knew i was right about not trusting EA with this game and didnt use the cash shop. I love Dawngate, its one of the most enjoyable and varied f2p mobas ive tried. It really sucks that EA had to be behind it. I will miss Freia and Marah, two awesome characters. Good thing i still have zero plans to get Titanfall. Not buying anything form EA anymore that requires online only.
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989 Woo, good. A MOBA clone gone. Maybe we can other series finally get shutdown too. I'm tired of this bloated market where every developer copies 1 company to milk.
i enjoyed Dawngate, actually more than LoL gameplay wise. But man, EA's pattern is getting more and more obvious and ridiculous lol... Swtor failed at getting WoW's millions, Titanfall failed at getting CoD's millions, and now Dawngate failed at getting LoL's millions. EA really needs to cease to exist or change everyone who makes decisions in there.
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989 Woo, good. A MOBA clone gone. Maybe we can other series finally get shutdown too. I'm tired of this bloated market where every developer copies 1 company to milk.
i enjoyed Dawngate, actually more than LoL gameplay wise. But man, EA's pattern is getting more and more obvious and ridiculous lol... Swtor failed at getting WoW's millions, Titanfall failed at getting CoD's millions, and now Dawngate failed at getting LoL's millions. EA really needs to cease to exist or change everyone who makes decisions in there.
More likely they need a decent Pr and Marketing Department. Many companies give support to minimum or almost null incoming creating games, cause they are like "living advertisement". Ea wants fast and easy money. And this is only bringing em to compete with Ncsoft for the title of "Worst Pubblisher Ever".
Someone shuld explain them that this title brings no money.
i was very happy when i got acess to the closed beta. instead of lol or dota2 i was playin dawngate the last weeks and i must say i really enjoyed it. not that it was perfect, ofc there are some major things id like to see changed.
the different archetypes of roles u can choose during the selecting phase is nice. if u go for a support role, u get bonus gold for harrasing, and if u go for assasin role u get bonus gold for killin champs/ workers. ur not bound to a support role by pickin a champ that fits most for it.
dunno why they shut it down, there are way more worse mobas online (chaos heroes online). anyway, im lockin forward for tome:immortal arena on 11.21.14. still lookin for a beta key
MOBA clones falling as fast as wow clones i guess..
Not really, look at Rift. It found a 2nd life due to its imba f2p formula that doesn't go into p2w. (at max it becomes pay2boost but even thos buying gear from the shop get crappy sub-version of the best gear you can get via proper playing, aka no procs or set bonus and diminished stats). The problem i see is that they all are going money-hungry, too hungry, only obtaining a backfirethat results in everything but incomes cause they don't have the patience and the manpower to support the rush to money they want. I left WoW after TBC due to reasons that many already know, but WoW it's still there with its subbing formula that still works cause they put effort and support in it.
But when you see a company saying "within 3 months this game will be closed forever" what u can do? Who will play this game being aware that all progress will be wiped out? Who will trust again the pubblisher/developer after this?
Dawngate is a fantastic MOBA with a lot of innovative ideas and a great, well-integrated lore. It's downright criminal that it is meeting its end before it even met with a full release.
With fully voiced character stories etc., maybe they tried a bit too hard, given the competition?
And EA is not exactly known to support developers. So it didn't meet EA's expectations, but that doesn't say anything about the quality. Maybe some other publishers would have sticked with it.
Or maybe it's just too late now, with LoL, DotA, Smite, some other random MOBAs (HoN included, doesn't look like that many people sitll play it), and HotS upcoming..
There is only so much room for the same game, and unlike MMOs, those games do not really feature a story (i love to read the LoL character stories even though i do not play it, but if all you do is play the game you won't ever come across them), but still a lot of investment via acquiring new heroes, skins etc. As it's PVP you do not run out of content liike MMOs do. So overall, little incentive to switch to a new game.
EA simply is late to the party.
I'll wait to the day's end when the moon is high And then I'll rise with the tide with a lust for life, I'll Amass an army, and we'll harness a horde And then we'll limp across the land until we stand at the shore
I tried out Dawngate when it was in early open beta. I saw little reason to continue playing it over DotA2, LoL, or Smite which are all better games.
Heroes of the Storm on the other hand, is fun, but it really doesn't feel like a normal Defense of the Ancients based MOBA - so I'm adding it to my roster of games that get my time.
I played this game once and it felt a little off to me. The environment graphics felt a little too cluttered, the avatar graphics were a little too homogenized and the characters looked too small. The map layout seemed to have a circular layout to it, and there were these camps you captured that popped out workers or minions or something.
the league guys originally pitched LoL to EA, and they got laughed out of the room for it
bet the suits are kicking themselves over that one now
How many people would have said "EA? No thanks." and simply have played Heroes of Newerth instead. And would League of Legends be the international phenomena it is today replacing the support of Tencent with the support of EA? Possibly, but no 100% guarantee.
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What? Who..EA!? It's a trap!!
http://youtu.be/piVnArp9ZE0
:-D Bf4? Fifa15? Nfs:Rivals? Fell free to add your game. This company scammed so much that the economic suicide unluckly won't give its result soon. This is my only concern. EA itself is a trap...for your wallet :-p
This is typical for EA. Anyone remember that Warhammer arena game? After Warhammer online was flopped they had this idea to make a F2P game that would be PvP only. Using the universe and the models they already had. Not a bad idea but it went into a beta hell. For a long long time it was in beta, longer then it was announced. It was hard to play the beta as well as it was locked to regions and weekends to play.
The game wasn't even properly released yet or they pulled the plug. I can't even remember if it had been officially released or canceled during beta.
There are way too many MOBA's atm and a hell lot more coming. Just like MMORPG's i don't think the LoL fanbase is gonna leave LoL to play another MOBA. Same for DOTA2 players. Its a bit overcrowded, you won't make huge profits anymore. EA always seems to chase popular games and forget to make their own. Battlefield was great until they tried to make it a CoD killer, Warhammer Online was rushed to compete with WoW, etc etc. They keep making these mistakes and don't give it much time to become succesfull.
The fact that plenty of people here haven't heard about this game should say enough. Maybe they should have advertised it better so people would know and then it could be profitable enough to keep it alive. Just typical EA, they never really know what to do with games unless its a sport game.
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I did not spend a lot of time on this game myself - one or two rounds to be fair, but what struck me right off the bat was this:
1: i've played lol since it came out. that's what? 4 or 5 years now? can you begin to realize the "work" i've put into that game to unlock every champion, 20 rune pages and all the runes i feel i need, not to mention the money i used on boosts and skins? Then concider my willingness to start that all over again in a new game that does basically the same for a gameplay experience, and that my friends are equally willing to start building up all over again - as in not at all.
2: they're obscuring stats - there are simply too many of them on each item and nothing is called anything you're used to. i'm generally good at seeing trough new systems and recognizing when something gets a new name, but this game just clears the slate and has you guessing all over again.
3: gameplay strategy is super confusing - i hear towers were supposed to rebuild - never had that happen and i have no idea why, 'cause the game doesn't tell me anything useful. gold mines are placed away from your focus and there are no warnings to draw your attention and nothing is marked properly on the minimap. i may have had an early build, but the amount of info the game gave me was just ridiculously low for such a strategically diverse game.
Conclusion: i'm not going anywhere unless i am offered a one-time-buy for full unlock and the game does something new enough to pull my friends with me.
They just announced the shutdown and refund offer.
You really think you would be immediately first in line at customer support on the same day of the announcement?
/shrug
i think i was not clear, tho i'm happy (or enraged?:-p) I don't know about this game, but i'm happy for you if u are getting refunded for it. U deserve it. Just i wish that EA had the same attitude for major games that were released in pre-alpha state like the games i named. Refunding people for a "no-one-knows-about-it" game it's easy. Refunding on a major title is another thing. That was what i was complaining about. But sumone unable to read confused waters even more.
Also: Online games are not like single-player ones. You pu effort and long-time expectations....will EA refund this too?. For someone time is not important, for me it is.
Like someone said here, EA thoughts are "If the game grants me a new Lamborghini within 2 day from the game launch then it's ok, otherwise it's not worth keeping it alive".
i enjoyed Dawngate, actually more than LoL gameplay wise. But man, EA's pattern is getting more and more obvious and ridiculous lol... Swtor failed at getting WoW's millions, Titanfall failed at getting CoD's millions, and now Dawngate failed at getting LoL's millions. EA really needs to cease to exist or change everyone who makes decisions in there.
More likely they need a decent Pr and Marketing Department. Many companies give support to minimum or almost null incoming creating games, cause they are like "living advertisement". Ea wants fast and easy money. And this is only bringing em to compete with Ncsoft for the title of "Worst Pubblisher Ever".
Someone shuld explain them that this title brings no money.
MOBA clones falling as fast as wow clones i guess..
I seem to recall seeing some ads floating around on this one but never gave it a 2nd thought.
Is this game a
"JAFMOBA"?
Just
Another
F...........riendly
MOBA
i was very happy when i got acess to the closed beta. instead of lol or dota2 i was playin dawngate the last weeks and i must say i really enjoyed it. not that it was perfect, ofc there are some major things id like to see changed.
the different archetypes of roles u can choose during the selecting phase is nice. if u go for a support role, u get bonus gold for harrasing, and if u go for assasin role u get bonus gold for killin champs/ workers. ur not bound to a support role by pickin a champ that fits most for it.
dunno why they shut it down, there are way more worse mobas online (chaos heroes online). anyway, im lockin forward for tome:immortal arena on 11.21.14. still lookin for a beta key
Not really, look at Rift. It found a 2nd life due to its imba f2p formula that doesn't go into p2w. (at max it becomes pay2boost but even thos buying gear from the shop get crappy sub-version of the best gear you can get via proper playing, aka no procs or set bonus and diminished stats). The problem i see is that they all are going money-hungry, too hungry, only obtaining a backfirethat results in everything but incomes cause they don't have the patience and the manpower to support the rush to money they want. I left WoW after TBC due to reasons that many already know, but WoW it's still there with its subbing formula that still works cause they put effort and support in it.
But when you see a company saying "within 3 months this game will be closed forever" what u can do? Who will play this game being aware that all progress will be wiped out? Who will trust again the pubblisher/developer after this?
If I had to rattle off what I thought were the top 5 MMOs (Player base wise)
WoW
GW2
SWTOR
FFXIV:ARR
Not sure about the last one. Rift. or ESO maybe?
So 3 or 4 of them use the old Theme Park model. So which MMOs are you referring to as Failing WoW Clones? Wild Star?
WildStar isn't failing becasue it's a WoW clone, it's failing because it's just not a good game.
the league guys originally pitched LoL to EA, and they got laughed out of the room for it
bet the suits are kicking themselves over that one now
Aw man, how will the world go on without another MOBA?
It was fun for the few weeks I had played it.
Originally posted by Arskaaa
"when players learned tacticks in dungeon/raids, its bread".
With fully voiced character stories etc., maybe they tried a bit too hard, given the competition?
And EA is not exactly known to support developers. So it didn't meet EA's expectations, but that doesn't say anything about the quality. Maybe some other publishers would have sticked with it.
Or maybe it's just too late now, with LoL, DotA, Smite, some other random MOBAs (HoN included, doesn't look like that many people sitll play it), and HotS upcoming..
There is only so much room for the same game, and unlike MMOs, those games do not really feature a story (i love to read the LoL character stories even though i do not play it, but if all you do is play the game you won't ever come across them), but still a lot of investment via acquiring new heroes, skins etc. As it's PVP you do not run out of content liike MMOs do. So overall, little incentive to switch to a new game.
EA simply is late to the party.
I'll wait to the day's end when the moon is high
And then I'll rise with the tide with a lust for life, I'll
Amass an army, and we'll harness a horde
And then we'll limp across the land until we stand at the shore
Game wasn't bad.... But you can't expect to win market share by comming in years after the fact and copying the guy in first place.......
You'd think they'd have learned from the EQ/Wow Clones.
I tried out Dawngate when it was in early open beta. I saw little reason to continue playing it over DotA2, LoL, or Smite which are all better games.
Heroes of the Storm on the other hand, is fun, but it really doesn't feel like a normal Defense of the Ancients based MOBA - so I'm adding it to my roster of games that get my time.
How many people would have said "EA? No thanks." and simply have played Heroes of Newerth instead. And would League of Legends be the international phenomena it is today replacing the support of Tencent with the support of EA? Possibly, but no 100% guarantee.