Well, it isn't as if a lot of us hadn't already been dropping the $60 or so over the years on the shiny new mmos releasing between expansions before trudging back to WoW.
I will echo NobleNerd's point though, that it kind of stings for them to raise the price of the expansion, however little, when they won't even bother with a new class/race. Preferably, ones that you won't be able to boost for that year so the old content gets a little love. Those leveling zones are already ghosts towns even on the most populated servers and have been for awhile.
You call WoW the most expensive MMO? Just ... wow (no pun there).
It is not the most expensive MMO by far. Every single FTP is more expensive IF you want to experience the same amount of content and polish.
If you don't care about content and polish, sure... go play a FTP. For everyone with a job tho, those few bucks a month for the huge content and polish is about an hour worth of work for hundreds of hours fun.
MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.
Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?
Maybe cause I am old and I have lost touch with the world but what is wrong with paying a few cents a day for entertainment?
Have so many people been jaded by the so called "free to play" market that they cannot see the value of an entertainment dollar anymore?
If you spend 50 bucks a year on expansions and kept your 15 dollar sub going the whole time you would spend 230 a year on your game.
I do not play the game a lot, more than some but not a lot. I would say I play about 5 days a week, 3 hours a day so 15 hours a week. Multiply that times 52 weeks a year and it comes out to 780 hours a year.
230 dollars divided by 780 hours comes out to 29 cents an hour for my play time. 1 dollar a day is what I average for that.
The more I play it the less it costs.
Compare that to other forms of entertainment and I seriously doubt you will find much close to that cost.
Yeah, that is a great deal if you only play 1 game for a whole year but chances are you aren't. For $230, I can buy 3 $60 games and a $50 which gives me much more variety in what I play instead of spending it all on one game. It's fine for people who are WoW addicts and want to spend all day every day on it but I could just wait for a Stream sale and have a nice time with $230 and have much more to play.
You call WoW the most expensive MMO? Just ... wow (no pun there).
It is not the most expensive MMO by far. Every single FTP is more expensive IF you want to experience the same amount of content and polish.
If you don't care about content and polish, sure... go play a FTP. For everyone with a job tho, those few bucks a month for the huge content and polish is about an hour worth of work for hundreds of hours fun.
Yeah, the grand polish of a 10 year old game. Most people would call that rust.
I like it, but i would've liked more content patches more.
I don't really expect entire expansions, but it would be nice if they added a dungeon here or there rather then going months without new content.
Either way, more content is what i want, and considering how much a MMO can be played, it'll still be a heck of a lot cheaper then most other forms of entertainment.
As I was suspecting, there was article not too long ago on Blizzards intention to deliver expansions at a faster pace, so it doesn't occur the same mistake they've done few times now and losing big chunk of subs in the process.
The only thing I ever noticed is that Blizzard ALWAYS release a new expansion right around the same date where they preceive another major mmo title that might take some of their market share is about to be released.
Originally posted by Ballsout Revert WoW back to vanilla, make it challenging again, and I'll come back.
Please Link your achievement from vanilla. We will judge how much "challenge" you actually "love" after that. And if you don't know how to link your achievement and/or armory then you don't deserve to play WoW anymore.
If there was any statement that showcased the elitist foul attitude that pollutes wow, this is it.
Elitist is the guy that claims current Wow is too easy---particularly when challenge mode dungeons are about as difficult an encounter as you can find in an MMO.
I know we're all MMO snobs on here, but when people say Wow is "too easy," I have to laugh. It's as easy or as difficult as you want to make it.
Well all the mmos out today pretty much suck. Wow is just about the only one you can go back to and waste some time in. If folks want Vanilla wow just google Vanilla wow servers. They are out there with tons of people on them. ( I didnt mention names or links so I shouldnt get the 3 day usual ban )
And Vanilla wow was about who you knew. If you didnt know anyone then that was the worst gaming time of your life. Well, for me it was since I am a butthead.
The new expansion comes out tonight at midnight and I am guessing all the folks posting on this thread will be logging in. I know I will be. /chuckles
Maybe cause I am old and I have lost touch with the world but what is wrong with paying a few cents a day for entertainment?
Have so many people been jaded by the so called "free to play" market that they cannot see the value of an entertainment dollar anymore?
If you spend 50 bucks a year on expansions and kept your 15 dollar sub going the whole time you would spend 230 a year on your game.
I do not play the game a lot, more than some but not a lot. I would say I play about 5 days a week, 3 hours a day so 15 hours a week. Multiply that times 52 weeks a year and it comes out to 780 hours a year.
230 dollars divided by 780 hours comes out to 29 cents an hour for my play time. 1 dollar a day is what I average for that.
The more I play it the less it costs.
Compare that to other forms of entertainment and I seriously doubt you will find much close to that cost.
Yeah, that is a great deal if you only play 1 game for a whole year but chances are you aren't. For $230, I can buy 3 $60 games and a $50 which gives me much more variety in what I play instead of spending it all on one game. It's fine for people who are WoW addicts and want to spend all day every day on it but I could just wait for a Stream sale and have a nice time with $230 and have much more to play.
How many here even play WOW for the whole one year? do you? it is no where close to 230 bucks.
Maybe cause I am old and I have lost touch with the world but what is wrong with paying a few cents a day for entertainment?
Have so many people been jaded by the so called "free to play" market that they cannot see the value of an entertainment dollar anymore?
If you spend 50 bucks a year on expansions and kept your 15 dollar sub going the whole time you would spend 230 a year on your game.
I do not play the game a lot, more than some but not a lot. I would say I play about 5 days a week, 3 hours a day so 15 hours a week. Multiply that times 52 weeks a year and it comes out to 780 hours a year.
230 dollars divided by 780 hours comes out to 29 cents an hour for my play time. 1 dollar a day is what I average for that.
The more I play it the less it costs.
Compare that to other forms of entertainment and I seriously doubt you will find much close to that cost.
Yeah, that is a great deal if you only play 1 game for a whole year but chances are you aren't. For $230, I can buy 3 $60 games and a $50 which gives me much more variety in what I play instead of spending it all on one game. It's fine for people who are WoW addicts and want to spend all day every day on it but I could just wait for a Stream sale and have a nice time with $230 and have much more to play.
How many here even play WOW for the whole one year? do you? it is no where close to 230 bucks.
For wotlk, cataclysm and MoP it took an eternity from the last larger raid instance to the next expansion so it would be a great thing if people wouldn't have to raid the same place for a year. The problem is that their plans of quicker expansions isn't something new, they have tried to cut down the time and they failed every single time.
It would be a great thing for wow players if next expansion gets released in Q1 2016, but I doubt its going to happen.
Iselin: And the next person who says "but it's a business, they need to make money" can just go fuck yourself.
It is quite expensive for one game. In my first months of wow I was confused why I didn't get a free month with TBC like when I bought the original. I think it would be more fair to include a free month with all expansions.
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15x12 = 180?
15*12+50 = 230
Unless you pay 6 month at a time which I think is $13. 13*12+50 = 206
Considering they said the same thing at the end of BC which was over 6 years ago now, I'll believe it when i see it. That said if Activision has realized that they could sell one $50 expansion every year rather than one $40 expansion every two years while churning out only slightly more content but packaging it better I certainly wouldn't put it past them.
I think it's funny that people are trying to claim that WoW is so expensive when EQ1 during its prime had a monthly fee and an expansion every 6 months and people revere that as the best MMO ever.
EQ2 has had 11 expansions in its decade of release. EQ2 also has a full blown cash shop, not just vanity items like WoW.
Good for WoW, dunno bout the players or the rest of the MMO and video game industry. WoW needs more frequent updates to avoid the sub drop, guess they figured it out. You gotta feed the cow to milk it.
Originally posted by Xiaoki I think it's funny that people are trying to claim that WoW is so expensive when EQ1 during its prime had a monthly fee and an expansion every 6 months and people revere that as the best MMO ever.
EQ2 has had 11 expansions in its decade of release. EQ2 also has a full blown cash shop, not just vanity items like WoW.
EQ2 also puts out more content with less than 1/50th the revenue of WoW
Blizzard to put out a new WoW expansion every year? I'll believe it when I see it. They've said this before, hasn't happened. Yes Titan has been cancelled but now they have Overwatch to develop for, not to mention Heroes of The Storm & the new Starcraft expansion. I know they are saying this and that is their intention, but I don't believe it'll happen.
Originally posted by Xiaoki I think it's funny that people are trying to claim that WoW is so expensive when EQ1 during its prime had a monthly fee and an expansion every 6 months and people revere that as the best MMO ever.
EQ2 has had 11 expansions in its decade of release. EQ2 also has a full blown cash shop, not just vanity items like WoW.
EQ2 also puts out more content with less than 1/50th the revenue of WoW
EQ2 doesn't put out nearly the quality of content that WoW does.
Your polls always seem to prove your threads wrong. No matter what Blizzard does, you won't be satisfied because you are too hung up on the fact that you have to pay to play the game.
If you are not willing to pay a company for their hard work and polished game, then the game can definitely survive without you and many others who have that mentality. Just like it has for 10 years
Dear OP. as a non-WoW player, why do you feel the need to look out for us and care so much? Try not to take on other people's issues as it could lead to stress.
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Well, it isn't as if a lot of us hadn't already been dropping the $60 or so over the years on the shiny new mmos releasing between expansions before trudging back to WoW.
I will echo NobleNerd's point though, that it kind of stings for them to raise the price of the expansion, however little, when they won't even bother with a new class/race. Preferably, ones that you won't be able to boost for that year so the old content gets a little love. Those leveling zones are already ghosts towns even on the most populated servers and have been for awhile.
You call WoW the most expensive MMO? Just ... wow (no pun there).
It is not the most expensive MMO by far. Every single FTP is more expensive IF you want to experience the same amount of content and polish.
If you don't care about content and polish, sure... go play a FTP. For everyone with a job tho, those few bucks a month for the huge content and polish is about an hour worth of work for hundreds of hours fun.
MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.
Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?
Yeah, that is a great deal if you only play 1 game for a whole year but chances are you aren't. For $230, I can buy 3 $60 games and a $50 which gives me much more variety in what I play instead of spending it all on one game. It's fine for people who are WoW addicts and want to spend all day every day on it but I could just wait for a Stream sale and have a nice time with $230 and have much more to play.
Yeah, the grand polish of a 10 year old game. Most people would call that rust.
I like it, but i would've liked more content patches more.
I don't really expect entire expansions, but it would be nice if they added a dungeon here or there rather then going months without new content.
Either way, more content is what i want, and considering how much a MMO can be played, it'll still be a heck of a lot cheaper then most other forms of entertainment.
The only thing I ever noticed is that Blizzard ALWAYS release a new expansion right around the same date where they preceive another major mmo title that might take some of their market share is about to be released.
Seems like a successful strategy to me so far.
Elitist is the guy that claims current Wow is too easy---particularly when challenge mode dungeons are about as difficult an encounter as you can find in an MMO.
I know we're all MMO snobs on here, but when people say Wow is "too easy," I have to laugh. It's as easy or as difficult as you want to make it.
Well all the mmos out today pretty much suck. Wow is just about the only one you can go back to and waste some time in. If folks want Vanilla wow just google Vanilla wow servers. They are out there with tons of people on them. ( I didnt mention names or links so I shouldnt get the 3 day usual ban )
And Vanilla wow was about who you knew. If you didnt know anyone then that was the worst gaming time of your life. Well, for me it was since I am a butthead.
The new expansion comes out tonight at midnight and I am guessing all the folks posting on this thread will be logging in. I know I will be. /chuckles
How many here even play WOW for the whole one year? do you? it is no where close to 230 bucks.
15x12 = 180?
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For wotlk, cataclysm and MoP it took an eternity from the last larger raid instance to the next expansion so it would be a great thing if people wouldn't have to raid the same place for a year. The problem is that their plans of quicker expansions isn't something new, they have tried to cut down the time and they failed every single time.
It would be a great thing for wow players if next expansion gets released in Q1 2016, but I doubt its going to happen.
It is quite expensive for one game. In my first months of wow I was confused why I didn't get a free month with TBC like when I bought the original. I think it would be more fair to include a free month with all expansions.
15*12+50 = 230
Unless you pay 6 month at a time which I think is $13. 13*12+50 = 206
Considering they said the same thing at the end of BC which was over 6 years ago now, I'll believe it when i see it. That said if Activision has realized that they could sell one $50 expansion every year rather than one $40 expansion every two years while churning out only slightly more content but packaging it better I certainly wouldn't put it past them.
EQ2 has had 11 expansions in its decade of release. EQ2 also has a full blown cash shop, not just vanity items like WoW.
I think WoD will be the last expansion I buy. If I buy another it will heavily depend on whether they offer a new RACE and CLASS to the game.
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EQ2 also puts out more content with less than 1/50th the revenue of WoW
EQ2 doesn't put out nearly the quality of content that WoW does.
If the expansions are feature rich, then i have no issue paying for one every year.
If the expansions are on EQ2's level, then i'll pass.
Your polls always seem to prove your threads wrong. No matter what Blizzard does, you won't be satisfied because you are too hung up on the fact that you have to pay to play the game.
If you are not willing to pay a company for their hard work and polished game, then the game can definitely survive without you and many others who have that mentality. Just like it has for 10 years