Originally posted by Soandsoso Wont be touching this after experiencing the ArcheAge fiasco.
Forget one thing, Arche Age is not a Trion product, there the hoster of Arche Age, they need some blame for it, like support and other stuff, but the game is self was programed and made by xlgames.
As much as AA destroyed any respect I had for Trion. I still enjoy this game. It's simple and goofy. It's worth a shot. I bought it in a Humble Bundle for $1, so I can't say it wasn't worth it, or at least worth a try for free.
Originally posted by Soandsoso Wont be touching this after experiencing the ArcheAge fiasco.
Forget one thing, Arche Age is not a Trion product, there the hoster of Arche Age, they need some blame for it, like support and other stuff, but the game is self was programed and made by xlgames.
This!
If you want to make a valid comparison, try out Rift for an idea of what Trion's monetization strategies for their in-house games are like. It's actually one of the best models out there.
Originally posted by Soandsoso Wont be touching this after experiencing the ArcheAge fiasco.
Forget one thing, Arche Age is not a Trion product, there the hoster of Arche Age, they need some blame for it, like support and other stuff, but the game is self was programed and made by xlgames.
This!
If you want to make a valid comparison, try out Rift for an idea of what Trion's monetization strategies for their in-house games are like. It's actually one of the best models out there.
I played rift, and I have been when it was sub, to free to play, but rift and there cash shop is more of rush want it now, or you can get it in game, and still not being hold back to have fun.
Trove is definitely a free to play game. I've been playing since alpha and the developers have never put anything controversial in the cash shop. It's all cosmetics and mounts. Yes, most people can agree that the handling of Archeage had been a hot mess, but the rest of Trion's games are fair. Seems the more people should point fingers toward XLgames considering Trion doesn't have full control over AA like the others.
But to the point, if you want to play Trove give it a try and don't worry about it being pay to win. It's a lot of fun.
When Trion owns the product, support and communication is pretty awesome. I had a blast in Trove in early alpha, when it was a dungeon crawler with a truly endless landscape. Communication with the devs continues to be excellent.
Great thing about Trove is its just so not "serious". And I don't mean in its art style and humor I just mean it's gameplay isn't hardcore own your life kinda MMO.
I think that will make the game rather P2W proof because if you really want to "win" at Trove it's probably not the right game for you. Lol
Originally posted by Soandsoso Wont be touching this after experiencing the ArcheAge fiasco.
Forget one thing, Arche Age is not a Trion product, there the hoster of Arche Age, they need some blame for it, like support and other stuff, but the game is self was programed and made by xlgames.
You can blame Trion for their behavior as publisher of AA, and their behavior has suggested nothing but a company trying to wring every last cent they can from the game rather than give their customers an enjoyable product.
Originally posted by Soandsoso Wont be touching this after experiencing the ArcheAge fiasco.
Forget one thing, Arche Age is not a Trion product, there the hoster of Arche Age, they need some blame for it, like support and other stuff, but the game is self was programed and made by xlgames.
"No tricks, no traps" If you believe they held their word on that one, you can continue to live in your nice little bubble;)
Trove is a little gem of fun, I play this with my son often we so far have unlocked all but one character type with no money spent, all it takes is a week and a day or so to get the 5000 cubits earned by simple and I mean really simple daily stuff.
500 every day and 1000 on sat then again on sunday plus you get 1000 every so many mastery levels. easy as pie.
On 6000 or so only 2000 more and final toon ice sage is mine for nothing but logging in for a short time each day.
Trove is good. It is a 3d diablo with voxels, bright colors and a touch of minecraft. Fun, simple and really free. It is not the game I would play for hours. It is more a nice casual blast.
My only complaint is when my son is tanking with his dracolyte instead of his knight )) Faerie is op and better than GW2 mesmer !!! Cannot wait to buy the Ice Sage !
Originally posted by Soandsoso Wont be touching this after experiencing the ArcheAge fiasco.
Forget one thing, Arche Age is not a Trion product, there the hoster of Arche Age, they need some blame for it, like support and other stuff, but the game is self was programed and made by xlgames.
When you say Hoster, you mean publisher. When you say programmed, you mean developed.
XL games is the developer. Trion is the NA/EU publisher.
It's as if some of you make being offended and comically bitter your life's work. While I realize some people value being cautious, cynicism and negativity does not equal wisdom. Just as optimism and enthusiasm does not equal naivety.
But, ahh well. All aboard the X Company/Game Hate Train.
Worry not, the ticket costs little more than a mouthful of hyperbole.
Originally posted by grimal Trion hasn't produced anything decent since Rift...and even that was not to my liking. After Defiance and AA, this is a do not buy from company.
They have only produced Defiance and AA since rift, so there isn't much to go off of. Honestly Defiance wasn't bad IMO I enjoyed it for quite a bit even if it was linear. Trove is a lot different though, it isn't a buy to play game like Defiance was, it isn't a sub game like rift was, it isn't even a cash shop hungry game like AA and rift (post f2p conversion). It has a cash shop but it isn't anywhere near as intrusive as Rift or AA is, plus you can get a majority of the items without paying, and the ones you can't are cosmetic.
Originally posted by Soandsoso Wont be touching this after experiencing the ArcheAge fiasco.
Forget one thing, Arche Age is not a Trion product, there the hoster of Arche Age, they need some blame for it, like support and other stuff, but the game is self was programed and made by xlgames.
"No tricks, no traps" If you believe they held their word on that one, you can continue to live in your nice little bubble;)
But they did - look at the Trove shop - seriously, what is your complaint exactly?
I guess they will do the same thing as in AA, boost RNG boxes, nerf loot across the board just after release.
Next to zero QA, glancing over obvious issues with the game, pretending on stream how good the game is.
Publicly lying that they did not advertise the 10% market place discount. It was shown in the founder packs, does this not count as advertising?
Blaming XL for coding errors is all fine and dandy, Trion publishing a sub par, heavily bugged and turning a 180 on things said pre release is not.
Should publishers not be accountable for their words pre launch of a game just because they are not technically coding the game?
Are these things not relevant in terms of trusting Trion on their word and whatever the current state business practice is? When they have proven they do not hold their words?
Originally posted by Soandsoso Wont be touching this after experiencing the ArcheAge fiasco.
Forget one thing, Arche Age is not a Trion product, there the hoster of Arche Age, they need some blame for it, like support and other stuff, but the game is self was programed and made by xlgames.
When you say Hoster, you mean publisher. When you say programmed, you mean developed.
XL games is the developer. Trion is the NA/EU publisher.
And by 'forget' you meant 'forgot'. And by 'there' you meant 'they're'. And by 'is self' you meant 'itself'.
No judgement, just assuming you're on your phone, a non-native English speaker or drunk. Or maybe a combination of all three.
Originally posted by grimal Trion hasn't produced anything decent since Rift...and even that was not to my liking. After Defiance and AA, this is a do not buy from company.
I truly enjoyed Rift (Vanilla) It was one of my favorites. Even if it was short lived. I really enjoyed the World boss zone events.
But it all fell apart with that.....ummm............whatever the name of that 1st expansion was.
Originally posted by grimal Trion hasn't produced anything decent since Rift...and even that was not to my liking. After Defiance and AA, this is a do not buy from company.
I truly enjoyed Rift (Vanilla) It was one of my favorites. Even if it was short lived. I really enjoyed the World boss zone events.
But it all fell apart with that.....ummm............whatever the name of that 1st expansion was.
Rift still good game, if someone just looking for a game to play time to time, they will enjoy it, as long they get pass most the vanilla stuff, that what hold some people back is the vanilla leveling.
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Forget one thing, Arche Age is not a Trion product, there the hoster of Arche Age, they need some blame for it, like support and other stuff, but the game is self was programed and made by xlgames.
This!
If you want to make a valid comparison, try out Rift for an idea of what Trion's monetization strategies for their in-house games are like. It's actually one of the best models out there.
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I played rift, and I have been when it was sub, to free to play, but rift and there cash shop is more of rush want it now, or you can get it in game, and still not being hold back to have fun.
Trove is definitely a free to play game. I've been playing since alpha and the developers have never put anything controversial in the cash shop. It's all cosmetics and mounts. Yes, most people can agree that the handling of Archeage had been a hot mess, but the rest of Trion's games are fair. Seems the more people should point fingers toward XLgames considering Trion doesn't have full control over AA like the others.
But to the point, if you want to play Trove give it a try and don't worry about it being pay to win. It's a lot of fun.
I remember a time not too long ago the ArcheAge cash shop wasn't P2W, but it somehow morphed once people had invested allot of time into the game.
The term bait and switch comes to mind.
I am not going to be able to look past ArcheAge.
Trion took a gamble thinking the NA market was ready for a full p2w system.
We aren't there yet, getting close though.
When Trion owns the product, support and communication is pretty awesome. I had a blast in Trove in early alpha, when it was a dungeon crawler with a truly endless landscape. Communication with the devs continues to be excellent.
I think that will make the game rather P2W proof because if you really want to "win" at Trove it's probably not the right game for you. Lol
You can blame Trion for their behavior as publisher of AA, and their behavior has suggested nothing but a company trying to wring every last cent they can from the game rather than give their customers an enjoyable product.
"No tricks, no traps" If you believe they held their word on that one, you can continue to live in your nice little bubble;)
Trove is a little gem of fun, I play this with my son often we so far have unlocked all but one character type with no money spent, all it takes is a week and a day or so to get the 5000 cubits earned by simple and I mean really simple daily stuff.
500 every day and 1000 on sat then again on sunday plus you get 1000 every so many mastery levels. easy as pie.
On 6000 or so only 2000 more and final toon ice sage is mine for nothing but logging in for a short time each day.
Nothing hidden here guys its a great game.
Trove is good. It is a 3d diablo with voxels, bright colors and a touch of minecraft. Fun, simple and really free. It is not the game I would play for hours. It is more a nice casual blast.
My only complaint is when my son is tanking with his dracolyte instead of his knight
)) Faerie is op and better than GW2 mesmer !!! Cannot wait to buy the Ice Sage !
When you say Hoster, you mean publisher. When you say programmed, you mean developed.
XL games is the developer. Trion is the NA/EU publisher.
MMORPG Forums = The Fox News of Nerds
It's as if some of you make being offended and comically bitter your life's work. While I realize some people value being cautious, cynicism and negativity does not equal wisdom. Just as optimism and enthusiasm does not equal naivety.
But, ahh well. All aboard the X Company/Game Hate Train.
Worry not, the ticket costs little more than a mouthful of hyperbole.
They have only produced Defiance and AA since rift, so there isn't much to go off of. Honestly Defiance wasn't bad IMO I enjoyed it for quite a bit even if it was linear. Trove is a lot different though, it isn't a buy to play game like Defiance was, it isn't a sub game like rift was, it isn't even a cash shop hungry game like AA and rift (post f2p conversion). It has a cash shop but it isn't anywhere near as intrusive as Rift or AA is, plus you can get a majority of the items without paying, and the ones you can't are cosmetic.
I guess they will do the same thing as in AA, boost RNG boxes, nerf loot across the board just after release.
Next to zero QA, glancing over obvious issues with the game, pretending on stream how good the game is.
Publicly lying that they did not advertise the 10% market place discount. It was shown in the founder packs, does this not count as advertising?
Blaming XL for coding errors is all fine and dandy, Trion publishing a sub par, heavily bugged and turning a 180 on things said pre release is not.
Should publishers not be accountable for their words pre launch of a game just because they are not technically coding the game?
Are these things not relevant in terms of trusting Trion on their word and whatever the current state business practice is? When they have proven they do not hold their words?
And by 'forget' you meant 'forgot'. And by 'there' you meant 'they're'. And by 'is self' you meant 'itself'.
No judgement, just assuming you're on your phone, a non-native English speaker or drunk. Or maybe a combination of all three.
I truly enjoyed Rift (Vanilla) It was one of my favorites. Even if it was short lived. I really enjoyed the World boss zone events.
But it all fell apart with that.....ummm............whatever the name of that 1st expansion was.
Rift still good game, if someone just looking for a game to play time to time, they will enjoy it, as long they get pass most the vanilla stuff, that what hold some people back is the vanilla leveling.