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Curious to know where all those fanboys for this game went.

NotimeforbsNotimeforbs Member CommonPosts: 346
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I remember when this game was about to launch.  It was sort of going toe to toe against ESO at the time.  All I ever heard about was how much ESO was a fail game, and how WS was going to be the second coming.

Now it seems like tables have turned.  All I hear from people anymore is how WS is sucking so bad, its either going to shut down or go F2P.  So... what the hell happened?

I played the Beta.  Honestly, the game didn't really seem all that bad, although I didn't get too far into it.  Still, it seemed like it was a lot of fun.  It actually surprised me a bit.  In fact, I almost bought it on pre-order.  I would have too, had I not been preoccupied with ESO at the time.

So - what's the deal?  This game seriously can't be that bad.  I mean, I played it, and it was pretty good.  It seemed like a really fun adventure I might want to try out some day.  I know these forums, though.  People love the doom and gloom story - especially people who seem to advertise a game's inevitable "decline" into F2P territory like they have some sort of secret agenda.  But whatever.

Is this game really "that bad" or are people just blowing smoke because they don't like subscription models... like they do with every other Subsciption game?

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  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,689
    Originally posted by Notimeforbs

    I remember when this game was about to launch.  It was sort of going toe to toe against ESO at the time.  All I ever heard about was how much ESO was a fail game, and how WS was going to be the second coming.

    Now it seems like tables have turned.  All I hear from people anymore is how WS is sucking so bad, its either going to shut down or go F2P.  So... what the hell happened?

    I played the Beta.  Honestly, the game didn't really seem all that bad, although I didn't get too far into it.  Still, it seemed like it was a lot of fun.  It actually surprised me a bit.  In fact, I almost bought it on pre-order.  I would have too, had I not been preoccupied with ESO at the time.

    So - what's the deal?  This game seriously can't be that bad.  I mean, I played it, and it was pretty good.  It seemed like a really fun adventure I might want to try out some day.  I know these forums, though.  People love the doom and gloom story - especially people who seem to advertise a game's inevitable "decline" into F2P territory like they have some sort of secret agenda.  But whatever.

    Is this game really "that bad" or are people just blowing smoke because they don't like subscription models... like they do with every other Subsciption game?

    Basically, you hit level 50, buy a set of crafted gear that beat most junk you could get in the non-raid dungeons, and ask yourself, "Now what?"  That's what happened to most people.

     

    Even if you get past the attunement process and get into a raiding guild, raids are on a weekly cooldown so you only raid once a week and then... do nothing, really.

  • aesperusaesperus Member UncommonPosts: 5,135
    Pretty sure they all went back to WoW.
  • TheGoblinKingTheGoblinKing Member UncommonPosts: 208
    Originally posted by Notimeforbs

    I remember when this game was about to launch.  It was sort of going toe to toe against ESO at the time.  All I ever heard about was how much ESO was a fail game, and how WS was going to be the second coming.

    Now it seems like tables have turned.  All I hear from people anymore is how WS is sucking so bad, its either going to shut down or go F2P.  So... what the hell happened?

    I played the Beta.  Honestly, the game didn't really seem all that bad, although I didn't get too far into it.  Still, it seemed like it was a lot of fun.  It actually surprised me a bit.  In fact, I almost bought it on pre-order.  I would have too, had I not been preoccupied with ESO at the time.

    So - what's the deal?  This game seriously can't be that bad.  I mean, I played it, and it was pretty good.  It seemed like a really fun adventure I might want to try out some day.  I know these forums, though.  People love the doom and gloom story - especially people who seem to advertise a game's inevitable "decline" into F2P territory like they have some sort of secret agenda.  But whatever.

    Is this game really "that bad" or are people just blowing smoke because they don't like subscription models... like they do with every other Subsciption game?

    Nothing, the games great actually! I'm playing, my guilds active, the main city is teaming with people all over the place and everyones raiding and having a blast!

     

    Drop 3 just hit which brang out another big zone, over 100 pages of bug fixes, balances for all classes across the board, thats just the tip of the iceberg that I can remember! Carbine is really doing a great job and turning things around from Frost and his idiocy of 40 man raid content end gaming.

     

    People here (especially on this site) are always going to bemoan cry and kick and scream and put down sub models. Even when WoW has 10 million subs TEN YEARS LATER and is crushing every F2P game under its heel they'll still prattle on because they are just jealous a game they want to play hasn't gone F2P and they are on the outside looking in spewing their hatred.

     

    It was also like any launch, all the content locusts showed up and moved on and now you have a great population of the commited long term community members playing. Happens to every MMO.

     

    Its not going F2P, and Donatelli stated that and so did NCSOFT about support for the game in there quarterly but you'll still see responses from people here screaming and whining and making up anything they can out of spite and in some vain hope they get to play a game they are to cheap to pay for.

     

     

  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,101
    Originally posted by TheGoblinKing
    Originally posted by Notimeforbs

    I remember when this game was about to launch.  It was sort of going toe to toe against ESO at the time.  All I ever heard about was how much ESO was a fail game, and how WS was going to be the second coming.

    Now it seems like tables have turned.  All I hear from people anymore is how WS is sucking so bad, its either going to shut down or go F2P.  So... what the hell happened?

    I played the Beta.  Honestly, the game didn't really seem all that bad, although I didn't get too far into it.  Still, it seemed like it was a lot of fun.  It actually surprised me a bit.  In fact, I almost bought it on pre-order.  I would have too, had I not been preoccupied with ESO at the time.

    So - what's the deal?  This game seriously can't be that bad.  I mean, I played it, and it was pretty good.  It seemed like a really fun adventure I might want to try out some day.  I know these forums, though.  People love the doom and gloom story - especially people who seem to advertise a game's inevitable "decline" into F2P territory like they have some sort of secret agenda.  But whatever.

    Is this game really "that bad" or are people just blowing smoke because they don't like subscription models... like they do with every other Subsciption game?

    Nothing, the games great actually! I'm playing, my guilds active, the main city is teaming with people all over the place and everyones raiding and having a blast!

     

    Drop 3 just hit which brang out another big zone, over 100 pages of bug fixes, balances for all classes across the board, thats just the tip of the iceberg that I can remember! Carbine is really doing a great job and turning things around from Frost and his idiocy of 40 man raid content end gaming.

     

    People here (especially on this site) are always going to bemoan cry and kick and scream and put down sub models. Even when WoW has 10 million subs TEN YEARS LATER and is crushing every F2P game under its heel they'll still prattle on because they are just jealous a game they want to play hasn't gone F2P and they are on the outside looking in spewing their hatred.

     

    It was also like any launch, all the content locusts showed up and moved on and now you have a great population of the commited long term community members playing. Happens to every MMO.

     

    Its not going F2P, and Donatelli stated that and so did NCSOFT about support for the game in there quarterly but you'll still see responses from people here screaming and whining and making up anything they can out of spite and in some vain hope they get to play a game they are to cheap to pay for.

     

     

    Yea it's the people on forums that made the game suck and caused a mass exodus of players....

    You like it, good for you. But to claim this is all just made up by haters is stupid. The game had mega-hype, sold tons of copies, had a huge player base for about a month....then drifted away. You are in denial.

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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203
    To real life, until they fix the game and/or something else worth playing comes out ..

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  • ZorgoZorgo Member UncommonPosts: 2,254

    i have a feeling this post is less about your curiosity and more about rubbing salt in the wounds. 

    On a side note, the fanboys may be gone - but apparently the haters are still around.

     

  • ChrisboxChrisbox Member UncommonPosts: 1,729
    A lot of guilds realized it sucked and are now raiding warlords of draenor, the people that aren't probably just aren't playing MMO's at this time...or you're delusional like zybak and still play and think its the best mmo evur. 

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  • BraindomeBraindome Member UncommonPosts: 959
    Possibly fell over from depression of waiting and trying yet another disappointing MMO?
  • TheGoblinKingTheGoblinKing Member UncommonPosts: 208
    Originally posted by Viper482
    Originally posted by TheGoblinKing
    Originally posted by Notimeforbs

    I remember when this game was about to launch.  It was sort of going toe to toe against ESO at the time.  All I ever heard about was how much ESO was a fail game, and how WS was going to be the second coming.

    Now it seems like tables have turned.  All I hear from people anymore is how WS is sucking so bad, its either going to shut down or go F2P.  So... what the hell happened?

    I played the Beta.  Honestly, the game didn't really seem all that bad, although I didn't get too far into it.  Still, it seemed like it was a lot of fun.  It actually surprised me a bit.  In fact, I almost bought it on pre-order.  I would have too, had I not been preoccupied with ESO at the time.

    So - what's the deal?  This game seriously can't be that bad.  I mean, I played it, and it was pretty good.  It seemed like a really fun adventure I might want to try out some day.  I know these forums, though.  People love the doom and gloom story - especially people who seem to advertise a game's inevitable "decline" into F2P territory like they have some sort of secret agenda.  But whatever.

    Is this game really "that bad" or are people just blowing smoke because they don't like subscription models... like they do with every other Subsciption game?

    Nothing, the games great actually! I'm playing, my guilds active, the main city is teaming with people all over the place and everyones raiding and having a blast!

     

    Drop 3 just hit which brang out another big zone, over 100 pages of bug fixes, balances for all classes across the board, thats just the tip of the iceberg that I can remember! Carbine is really doing a great job and turning things around from Frost and his idiocy of 40 man raid content end gaming.

     

    People here (especially on this site) are always going to bemoan cry and kick and scream and put down sub models. Even when WoW has 10 million subs TEN YEARS LATER and is crushing every F2P game under its heel they'll still prattle on because they are just jealous a game they want to play hasn't gone F2P and they are on the outside looking in spewing their hatred.

     

    It was also like any launch, all the content locusts showed up and moved on and now you have a great population of the commited long term community members playing. Happens to every MMO.

     

    Its not going F2P, and Donatelli stated that and so did NCSOFT about support for the game in there quarterly but you'll still see responses from people here screaming and whining and making up anything they can out of spite and in some vain hope they get to play a game they are to cheap to pay for.

     

     

    Yea it's the people on forums that made the game suck and caused a mass exodus of players....

    You like it, good for you. But to claim this is all just made up by haters is stupid. The game had mega-hype, sold tons of copies, had a huge player base for about a month....then drifted away. You are in denial.

    You can say whatever you want, I know i'm not in denial because i'm the one logging in and having a blast with everyone else. The only one in denial is the person here making things up thats not even playing the game.

  • The.agGThe.agG Member Posts: 119
    Originally posted by Zorgo

    i have a feeling this post is less about your curiosity and more about rubbing salt in the wounds. 

    On a side note, the fanboys may be gone - but apparently the haters are still around.

     

    image

    The title is as flame-baitey as it can get. Who would want to have a serious discussion with the OP when it's clear what the intentions of his post are...

  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,405
    Originally posted by The.agG
    Originally posted by Zorgo

    i have a feeling this post is less about your curiosity and more about rubbing salt in the wounds. 

    On a side note, the fanboys may be gone - but apparently the haters are still around.

     

    image

    The title is as flame-baitey as it can get. Who would want to have a serious discussion with the OP when it's clear what the intentions of his post are...

    Yes was going to report it but someone beat me to it.

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  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    Originally posted by TheGoblinKing
    Originally posted by Notimeforbs

    I remember when this game was about to launch.  It was sort of going toe to toe against ESO at the time.  All I ever heard about was how much ESO was a fail game, and how WS was going to be the second coming.

    Now it seems like tables have turned.  All I hear from people anymore is how WS is sucking so bad, its either going to shut down or go F2P.  So... what the hell happened?

    I played the Beta.  Honestly, the game didn't really seem all that bad, although I didn't get too far into it.  Still, it seemed like it was a lot of fun.  It actually surprised me a bit.  In fact, I almost bought it on pre-order.  I would have too, had I not been preoccupied with ESO at the time.

    So - what's the deal?  This game seriously can't be that bad.  I mean, I played it, and it was pretty good.  It seemed like a really fun adventure I might want to try out some day.  I know these forums, though.  People love the doom and gloom story - especially people who seem to advertise a game's inevitable "decline" into F2P territory like they have some sort of secret agenda.  But whatever.

    Is this game really "that bad" or are people just blowing smoke because they don't like subscription models... like they do with every other Subsciption game?

    Nothing, the games great actually! I'm playing, my guilds active, the main city is teaming with people all over the place and everyones raiding and having a blast!

     

    Wildstar-progress tells a completely different story about "everyone's raiding and having a blast".

     

    You should check the guild activity timeline.

  • TheGoblinKingTheGoblinKing Member UncommonPosts: 208
    Originally posted by Shodanas
    Originally posted by TheGoblinKing
    Originally posted by Notimeforbs

    I remember when this game was about to launch.  It was sort of going toe to toe against ESO at the time.  All I ever heard about was how much ESO was a fail game, and how WS was going to be the second coming.

    Now it seems like tables have turned.  All I hear from people anymore is how WS is sucking so bad, its either going to shut down or go F2P.  So... what the hell happened?

    I played the Beta.  Honestly, the game didn't really seem all that bad, although I didn't get too far into it.  Still, it seemed like it was a lot of fun.  It actually surprised me a bit.  In fact, I almost bought it on pre-order.  I would have too, had I not been preoccupied with ESO at the time.

    So - what's the deal?  This game seriously can't be that bad.  I mean, I played it, and it was pretty good.  It seemed like a really fun adventure I might want to try out some day.  I know these forums, though.  People love the doom and gloom story - especially people who seem to advertise a game's inevitable "decline" into F2P territory like they have some sort of secret agenda.  But whatever.

    Is this game really "that bad" or are people just blowing smoke because they don't like subscription models... like they do with every other Subsciption game?

    Nothing, the games great actually! I'm playing, my guilds active, the main city is teaming with people all over the place and everyones raiding and having a blast!

     

    Wildstar-progress tells a completely different story about "everyone's raiding and having a blast".

     

    You should check the guild activity timeline.

    Your 100% right about guild progress, no one has to this day completed the 40 man raid, and that is why in drop 4 (  February) they are changing it to a 20 man raid and fixing attunement crap and drop rates etc.

    Alot of big changes regarding raids and not making them so ridiculously hard to get into coming, which I think everyone can agree is a good thing :)

    The 40 man raid itself isn't to hard because of the bosses so they won't be toning it down in that respect, its just to hard getting 40 people together to actually do it.

    So yes, i agree your statement on raid progess is correct :)

  • aftabbooaftabboo Member Posts: 67

    I never went for this game from the beginning and told my fanboy friend it would be a bust and it is.

     

    Its a pure wow clone, it has identical to wow graphics, identical to wow questing system (go here kill x mob in the same place everytime), identical to wow user interface, identical to wow system of skill trees although displayed differently and identical to wow gameplay with the exception that you see zones for enemy attacks so you can dodge which is an improvement over wow.

     

    Long story short, why they decided to make a 2014 mmo rpg using the template of a 10 year old game for gameplay and graphics, I will never understand. It was bound to fail.

     

    In my opinion, the only reason wow still works is not because its an exceptional game anymore because its just wildstar really, its because it still has those people who started playing it close to the beginning loyal to it and they fear losing their community (friends) which they have grown close to over the years if they leave.

     

    They will lose those close friends when they leave so its a legitimate concern but that's the cycle of life.

  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803

    An obvious troll thread and it lured out a whiteknight.

    My fav statement is 'the game is great cause a patch that will hit in 4 months will fix everything'

     

    I'm not sure if that is meant to be funny but it sure made my day.

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  • NotimeforbsNotimeforbs Member CommonPosts: 346
    Originally posted by cheyane
    Originally posted by The.agG
    Originally posted by Zorgo

    i have a feeling this post is less about your curiosity and more about rubbing salt in the wounds. 

    On a side note, the fanboys may be gone - but apparently the haters are still around.

     

    image

    The title is as flame-baitey as it can get. Who would want to have a serious discussion with the OP when it's clear what the intentions of his post are...

    Yes was going to report it but someone beat me to it.

    This isn't a troll thread.  I'm asking a legitimate question.  Why do people hate this game so much, when it seems like it should be pretty good?  Just because I use the word "fanboys" doesn't mean I'm trying to be antagonistic.  Everyone is a fanboy over something.

    You guys should spend less time worrying about the intentions of others and just answer the questions to have a real conversation.  Otherwise, you aren't adding anything to the discussion.  You're just trying to spin it into another useless negative thread - which it isn't.

  • Varex12Varex12 Member CommonPosts: 357
    Flame Bait.   Mods should delete this entire thread.  
  • NotimeforbsNotimeforbs Member CommonPosts: 346
    Originally posted by Varex12
    Flame Bait.   Mods should delete this entire thread.  

    Why?  There's nothing wrong with the thread.  I'm asking legitimate questions and having civil conversation.  Don't blame my thread for yours and others' inability to stay on topic.

  • makasouleater69makasouleater69 Member UncommonPosts: 1,096
    Originally posted by Chrisbox
    A lot of guilds realized it sucked and are now raiding warlords of draenor, the people that aren't probably just aren't playing MMO's at this time...or you're delusional like zybak and still play and think its the best mmo evur. 

    You do understand what you just said makes 0 sense right. It is personal who thinks what mmo is the best, and you cant be delusional in your choice of what is best. That is like saying some one who likes coke over pepsi is delusional. Your making a good case for your self though in the areas of being delusional. 

  • majimaji Member UncommonPosts: 2,091

    Well, it's the same as with all MMORPGs: they get hyped up far too much.

    Thing is: I didn't like Wildstar when it was announced, for several reasons:

    - always the same type of weapon for your character

    - you don't really have a choice on where to level up your character

    - combination of purchasing the game plus subscription plus pay2win

     

    Also, it didn't have a free trial, and I wasn't going to spend that amount of money for something I haven't tried.

    Then again, some months after the release of the game, I did get a free trial option, and used that. The game was more fun than I expected, especially the combat. I even was close to buying it, soooo close, but the points mentioned above were all still valid. In the end, WoD came along, so I gave that a try. And I'm having fun. Since I don't have time for two MMORPGs, there is no reason for me anymore to even consider purchasing Wildstar.

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    Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)

  • Varex12Varex12 Member CommonPosts: 357
    Originally posted by Notimeforbs
    Originally posted by Varex12
    Flame Bait.   Mods should delete this entire thread.  

    Why?  There's nothing wrong with the thread.  I'm asking legitimate questions and having civil conversation.  Don't blame my thread for yours and others' inability to stay on topic.

    Well, let's see...

    You go to another game's forum on this site, explain that you are an ESO player, set up an ESO vs. Wildstar competition, call the fans of Wildstar "fanboys," and imply that they have all gone silent because the game didn't live up to expectations. 

    It's a troll thread.  You're a troll.  Your only purpose in starting this thread was to rub salt in old wounds.  Your goal is to shout, "Hey, look a me!  I won!  I'm playing the more popular game!"  Your phony guise of "Oh, I'm just curious..." is bullshit, and you know it.  

    Again, mods should delete this thread and at the very least, give you a warning.  

  • ThebeastttThebeasttt Member RarePosts: 1,130
    Wildstar's light show combat system is probably the most offensive thing I've ever seen in a AAA MMO. i can't believe that made it to launch the way it did, they deserve to crash and burn honestly.
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by TheGoblinKing
    Originally posted by Notimeforbs

    I remember when this game was about to launch.  It was sort of going toe to toe against ESO at the time.  All I ever heard about was how much ESO was a fail game, and how WS was going to be the second coming.

    Now it seems like tables have turned.  All I hear from people anymore is how WS is sucking so bad, its either going to shut down or go F2P.  So... what the hell happened?

    I played the Beta.  Honestly, the game didn't really seem all that bad, although I didn't get too far into it.  Still, it seemed like it was a lot of fun.  It actually surprised me a bit.  In fact, I almost bought it on pre-order.  I would have too, had I not been preoccupied with ESO at the time.

    So - what's the deal?  This game seriously can't be that bad.  I mean, I played it, and it was pretty good.  It seemed like a really fun adventure I might want to try out some day.  I know these forums, though.  People love the doom and gloom story - especially people who seem to advertise a game's inevitable "decline" into F2P territory like they have some sort of secret agenda.  But whatever.

    Is this game really "that bad" or are people just blowing smoke because they don't like subscription models... like they do with every other Subsciption game?

    Nothing, the games great actually! I'm playing, my guilds active, the main city is teaming with people all over the place and everyones raiding and having a blast!

     

    Drop 3 just hit which brang out another big zone, over 100 pages of bug fixes, balances for all classes across the board, thats just the tip of the iceberg that I can remember! Carbine is really doing a great job and turning things around from Frost and his idiocy of 40 man raid content end gaming.

     

    People here (especially on this site) are always going to bemoan cry and kick and scream and put down sub models. Even when WoW has 10 million subs TEN YEARS LATER and is crushing every F2P game under its heel they'll still prattle on because they are just jealous a game they want to play hasn't gone F2P and they are on the outside looking in spewing their hatred.

     

    It was also like any launch, all the content locusts showed up and moved on and now you have a great population of the commited long term community members playing. Happens to every MMO.

     

    Its not going F2P, and Donatelli stated that and so did NCSOFT about support for the game in there quarterly but you'll still see responses from people here screaming and whining and making up anything they can out of spite and in some vain hope they get to play a game they are to cheap to pay for.

     

     

    I keep hearing about this 100 page patch notes. Do you have a link?

  • hockeyplayrhockeyplayr Member UncommonPosts: 604
    took a break from mmos, then WOD released so never went back.
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    Rhetorical question
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