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this game is NOT vaporware

SpewnsSpewns Member Posts: 2

did you not read the devs themselves say themselves in past interviews that the information and updates are going to be slowing down as they put all they can into development?

did you not even see the new interview on MMORPG.com posted about 2 days ago?

I'm glad Darkfall has made it on the top 10 on the Hype meter, really glad, now more people will know about it, what I'm tired of seeing is every other comment saying this game is vaporware, even after the new freaking interview with the Darkfall devs, with a piece of the interview even responding to the vaporware claims... the only reason you could think it is vaporware is because obviously you don't care enough about the game to read the dev interviews and keep your eye peeled for news wherever you can

making comments saying this game is vaporware is nothing but lies and misinformation, and it'll do nothing but drive possible new fans of Darkfall away as they read nothing but false accusations that the game is sinking and no longer being developed


Darkfall is actually more anticipated than ever. Website traffic, community activity, messages, inquiries by press, fans, business, employment inquires etc. are some of the indicators. The response to our unpublicized clan beta invitation has been overwhelming. All this makes us very happy but it's difficult to handle when we're in full production and all our resources need to be in development. Our information stream as a result has been toned down considerably.

As for the board whisperers, they're a reaction to a highly anticipated and ambitious game by an independent studio. 'Whispers' have proven in the past to have an agenda or two behind them, and whether it's competition, attempts at forcing information, or manipulating an active community, we shouldn't propagate them by rehashing them.

Our commitment to Darkfall is a given. We're proud to report that we're in the final stages of production. Our community can look forward to a lot of new Darkfall information and material, and of course, the chance to playtest the game.


-Tasos Flambouras, Darkfall dev in the latest MMORPG interview
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  • tsr57tsr57 Member Posts: 187

    "this game is NOT vaporware"

    yea it is.

  • dark-merlindark-merlin Member Posts: 314



    Originally posted by tsr57

    "this game is NOT vaporware"
    yea it is.




    i have seen you post in many Darkfall threads, not one time something positive. Id like to know your concerns about the game and if you dislike it so much why do you post here. Maybe i can give you some information about it so you know both sides of the situation.

    That is if you are acctualy interested and not only posting to up your post count.

    Looking forward for some questions.

    Dark-Merlin

  • TaguritTagurit Member Posts: 309

    After my very short SWG experience, some friends mentioned 4 games that I should follow that might be the next revolution in MMORPGS. They were Dark & Light (which is severely suspect as I bought the Pioneer Pack--SoG is pretty bad.), Vanguard, Darkfall, and The Chronicles of Spellborn.

    So far I have seen "vaporware" comments on Vanguard and now Darkfall. The jury is still deliberating on Spellborn...Is this really true? Surely there is one game out there that can actually be successful?

  • APEistAPEist Member UncommonPosts: 409



    Originally posted by Tagurit

    After my very short SWG experience, some friends mentioned 4 games that I should follow that might be the next revolution in MMORPGS. They were Dark & Light (which is severely suspect as I bought the Pioneer Pack--SoG is pretty bad.), Vanguard, Darkfall, and The Chronicles of Spellborn.
    So far I have seen "vaporware" comments on Vanguard and now Darkfall. The jury is still deliberating on Spellborn...Is this really true? Surely there is one game out there that can actually be successful?


    your that gullible?

    anyways, tsr, if it comes out it comes out (and i believe it will), if it doesnt well then it doesnt.  going around posting about how its vaporware and simply dismissing it everytime you see it mentioned is infact called being an ass. i have never called a game vaporware and never will. 

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  • TaguritTagurit Member Posts: 309


    LOL! Gullible? Fortunately for me $60 is nothing. Heck, I made that while typing this reply....

    So far I have had a better play experience in SoG than I have had in other MMORPGs. The stability is pretty bad, hence why I might need to look for another game. So if they cannot get it fixed, there will be no one left who would want to play it.

    Darkfall looks promising though.

  • PeZzyPeZzy Member UncommonPosts: 154

    This game suffers from the fact that a small Norwegian developer decided to load everything they could think of into a game. As a result, they will either a) keep working and maybe release the game in 2010, or b) drop alot of the features they were promising. I'm beginning to think "b" will be the chosen option. Take a good look at SoG - it's an example of what a small time developer can produce after years of work. If you think Razorwax can pull it off, then perhaps your experience with $OE and Bli$$ard games have lulled you into a false sense of security. Also, small developers have a hard time fighting hackers and when you put hackers into a PvP game, you have a recipe for disaster.

  • Deerhunter71Deerhunter71 Member Posts: 527

    I am sure I will get slammed and other folks in beta will totally disagree. However, here is my info from a friend in beta right now. It does not break the NDA but an overall good account based on his extensive experience. In another e-mail he has stated that this is the best beta he has ever taken part in from a MMOG. To me that tells me they that this might just be a quality game and they are putting in the time to do so instead of saying hey we are going live on xxx date no matter what. The e-mail as follows:

    "I have beta tested Dark and Light Online, Roma Victor, SWG, City of Heros, Dark Fall Online, Jedi Knight 2 and JKA, Ultima Online, and World of Warcraft.

    DFO has been the best, and without a doubt will be the best MMO to hit the shelves. DFO= WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get). There is so much stuff in this game it seems endless. Not in 2 years could you explore this whole game."

    Another comment by him = "The game, I can't really tell you how its going since im under NDA. All I can say, really, is that it is better in beta than any MMO i've played that is released."

    I am sure there are differing opinions but hey it sounds promising at least.

  • shamallshamall Member CommonPosts: 516
    So far this game looks like its going to be released and I am keeping an eye on it. I hope it will bring some fun and not be just another auto attack eq clone.image

    The Brave Do Not Fear The Grave

  • angerrangerr Member Posts: 865


    Originally posted by dark-merlin
    Originally posted by tsr57
    "this game is NOT vaporware"
    yea it is.
    i have seen you post in many Darkfall threads, not one time something positive. Id like to know your concerns about the game and if you dislike it so much why do you post here. Maybe i can give you some information about it so you know both sides of the situation.
    That is if you are acctualy interested and not only posting to up your post count.
    Looking forward for some questions.
    Dark-Merlin

    he started out trolling the Dnl forums, guess he has moved on to other game's forums. ::::12::

    image

    read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....

  • hodge12hodge12 Member Posts: 99
    this game will never be released
  • KienKien Member Posts: 520

    I've been the the DF web site a few times and I must say, the games looks like it will be impressive IF it comes out.

    The clan beta announcement was made in early October, 2005. I don't see any indication that the beta has actually begun. If so, that leads me to believe the vaporware claim may have some merit.

  • LasastardLasastard Member Posts: 604

    I am geting tired of these comments ala " we are unable to communicate because we have to focus on the development"
    Sorry, but if a company is not able to post some updates once in a while than they probably should consider doing something less challenging. And even more fascinating are the people who actually buy such excuses...absolutely unbelievable.

  • knowomknowom Member UncommonPosts: 195
    I think until Darkfall lays out a release date or a beta with a lifted nda in place you'll continue to hear the word vaporware tossed around for Darkfall and in some ways for good reason. Look how many mmo's people have had there hopes up for in the past that went up in smoke UO2 and UXO comes to mind and I can think of alot more. It's only natural for people to have doubts as for the comments hurting the game I can't agree with that any publicity is good publicity. Look at world of warcraft and what happened before it was released supposidly and very mysteriously source code was said to have been "leaked" who knows how much of it was true and if it wasn't just a pr stunt to garner attention to the game. Hollywood does things like it all the time. Just look where Blizzard is located california. I'm not saying it was a pr stunt on Blizzard's behalf, but it very well could've been. In any case the game's been a huge success and garnered alot of attention in part because of said event and it hasn't hurt that game any. I welcome the comments personally since it draws more attention to the game.
  • thatolchestnthatolchestn Member Posts: 31



    Originally posted by Deerhunter71

    I am sure I will get slammed and other folks in beta will totally disagree. However, here is my info from a friend in beta right now. It does not break the NDA but an overall good account based on his extensive experience. In another e-mail he has stated that this is the best beta he has ever taken part in from a MMOG. To me that tells me they that this might just be a quality game and they are putting in the time to do so instead of saying hey we are going live on xxx date no matter what. The e-mail as follows:
    "I have beta tested Dark and Light Online, Roma Victor, SWG, City of Heros, Dark Fall Online, Jedi Knight 2 and JKA, Ultima Online, and World of Warcraft.
    DFO has been the best, and without a doubt will be the best MMO to hit the shelves. DFO= WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get). There is so much stuff in this game it seems endless. Not in 2 years could you explore this whole game."
    Another comment by him = "The game, I can't really tell you how its going since im under NDA. All I can say, really, is that it is better in beta than any MMO i've played that is released."
    I am sure there are differing opinions but hey it sounds promising at least.



    Unless I am mistaken no DF beta has began yet. Devs even stated that in their last interview....
  • dark-merlindark-merlin Member Posts: 314

    It is true that a closed beta (clan) has not started yet, however there alpha is going strong and we believe that some guilds have people in it, one guild for example Guild of SUN.

    so he could be right or just bsing.

     

    Dark-Merlin

  • iceefireiceefire Member Posts: 9



    Originally posted by tsr57

    "this game is NOT vaporware"
    yea it is.



    way to get flamed.  i have been following darkfall for probably about 3 weeks.  in this time, i have seen a gaming community more loyal and more trusting than any that i have yet.  people have good reason to trust the devs, they care about the game, and are making it according to how THEY would want a good rpg to be.  i will wait as long as it takes for this mmorpg, because no other game catches the essence of what i think an agressive-style game should be.  instead of being so pessemistic, at least give rational thoughts of why you have an opinion.
  • iceefireiceefire Member Posts: 9
    oh also, forgot to add.  when this game does come out (and it will, just a matter of time), you all will be eating your skepticism.  Such pessemistic attitude does not help anyone, and will only turn on you in good time.
  • APEistAPEist Member UncommonPosts: 409

    another update today at ign.

     

    ive been following this game hardcore for 2 years, and ive seen more promise and updates in the past 3 months than in ANY other time, including the year i simply had my eye on it (so that makes a total of 3 years ive been following).  this game IS being released, simple as that.

    wether its good or not still remains to be seen ofc.

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  • eggo2003eggo2003 Member Posts: 2
    Its definitely coming out, Thats all you need to know for now.
  • KienKien Member Posts: 520



    Originally posted by APEist

    another update today at ign.
     
    ive been following this game hardcore for 2 years, and ive seen more promise and updates in the past 3 months than in ANY other time, including the year i simply had my eye on it (so that makes a total of 3 years ive been following).  this game IS being released, simple as that.
    wether its good or not still remains to be seen ofc.



    The IGN "update" doesn't prove anything. The so-called update reads like it was written by someone at Darkfall, rather than IGN.

    Darkfall looks great on paper. Please Darkfall, prove me wrong and go live with a game that actually works. Until then, it's vaporware, and that's all there is too it.

    For anyone interested, the so-called update can be found here:

     

    http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/686/686562p1.html

     


     

  • APEistAPEist Member UncommonPosts: 409

    ok, so a clan beta registration in late november, a week of ign features in december, the interview in january, this last ign update today... yea vaporware LOL. 

    if youve followed this game at all youd know these devs arent the greatest at throwin its fanbase a bone (info + screens), so these last few months have been very accelerated for darkfall.

    oh and "until then, its vaporware"  uhm, then by your definition.. all games not yet released are vaporware?  ok then, thats cool, i mean DF isnt released yet lol so i guess it would be vaporware in your mind.

    man i need to meet some people who share your thoughts on this game in real life... i could make some good money off them, placin bets on whether or not DF comes out lol.

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    The noob formally not known as not being the formally not unkown known APEist; The Stone Cold Killer of Tarq.

  • RossmRossm Member Posts: 2
    2 updates in a week so far for DFO, looks like it may actually be released after all
  • HerithiusHerithius Member UncommonPosts: 277

    Most people either forget or don't know that Darkfall did IGN interviews back in 2001 too. Back then they stated that they were planning for Darkfall to enter beta in 2002.

    Yet here we are in 2006 and the game has not even entered beta yet. Will DF be released? Perhaps but its far from certain. And, with DF not even in beta it won't be for quite a while to come.

  • JimLadJimLad Member CommonPosts: 187



    Originally posted by Herithius

    Most people either forget or don't know that Darkfall did IGN interviews back in 2001 too. Back then they stated that they were planning for Darkfall to enter beta in 2002.
    Yet here we are in 2006 and the game has not even entered beta yet. Will DF be released? Perhaps but its far from certain. And, with DF not even in beta it won't be for quite a while to come.



    Rebuild.
    Apparently they scrapped their inital release plans to focus on making the game a 'main' contender for the MMO market. I can't remember if this was when Adventurine aquired RazorWax, but basically it meant that instead of creating a niche targeted game from a low budget team they were able to spend more time transforming it into a mainstream title.

    I can't remember the exact story, but if you search the official Darkfall forums you should be able to find it no prob.

  • APEistAPEist Member UncommonPosts: 409



    Originally posted by Kien



    Originally posted by APEist

    another update today at ign.
     
    ive been following this game hardcore for 2 years, and ive seen more promise and updates in the past 3 months than in ANY other time, including the year i simply had my eye on it (so that makes a total of 3 years ive been following).  this game IS being released, simple as that.
    wether its good or not still remains to be seen ofc.


    The IGN "update" doesn't prove anything. The so-called update reads like it was written by someone at Darkfall, rather than IGN.

    Darkfall looks great on paper. Please Darkfall, prove me wrong and go live with a game that actually works. Until then, it's vaporware, and that's all there is too it.

    For anyone interested, the so-called update can be found here:

     

    http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/686/686562p1.html

     


     


    yes ive read every single one of those.  you forgot to mention how they basically ran out of funding, and switched to razorwax and moved to greece.  that put a halt to things... i think just enough of a halt to convince them that they should restart and shoot for a 2nd or 3rd mmo generation release instead of going ahead with what they had, that and they decided to make the game a tad bit more competitive with the mainstream games, and that means a lot more work.  i think its obvious that they werent happy with what they had done/could do at the time.  

    if i had to guess i bet they ran into stability and lag problems mainly, and found that technology couldnt support their ambitions then. 

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