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[Column] General: Can Goats Teach MMOs to Be More Fun?
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With the announcement of games like Grass Simulator, and I Am Bread, it seemed like the horse that is the quirky, physics-based simulator game was about to be getting its proverbial execution and subsequent beating. Yet, Coffee Stain Studios, developer of Goat Simulator, unleashed Goat MMO Simulator update upon gamers last week, showing that you can invigorate a game in an unexpected way. The best part may also be that it’s free DLC for the original game’s owners.
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I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
Are you weed? Cuz that is the only thing that makes GS fun. No content updates in months? What could they have been doing in that time? Buying Fantasy MMO art assets and arranging them in the form of a game world? This is not fun, it is proof that drugs rot your brain. By rot I mean, cause damage to your brain just like having a stroke. The segment of society that enjoys these games doesnt need games, they need medical attention.
Really what does the development community learn from this? How to take advantage of people who have fried their brains? There is a reason why in those PSAs they should and egg being fried. I used to respect this column.
Boy: Why can't I talk to Him?
Mom: We don't talk to Priests.
As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
Same here (and not because I posted the link even before mmorpg staff put it in the video section
).
"it's time for lazy developer to turn on their computers, once again" Game > New Patch > Add MMO Spport... then a few checkmarks and hit Apply, there's the new dlc
(with options like Story: None, and Login Queue Time with a dropdown list)
Not to mention it's a fun (though silly) little game.
I hope not. While these games have their place, I do not want to see "player goats" blowing up the landscape in a more serious world.
If players can not find "fun" in the games they play, maybe they should stop playing them? Just a thought
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
Little forum boys with their polished cyber toys: whine whine, boo-hoo, talk talk.
+1
Waiting for a Cyber Monday or Christmas deal.
U mad bro?
Really, I've never thought Goat Simulator's price would be worth the meager amount of time it would stay amusing just for the "lawls" and yes it appeals more to the community that frequents YouTuber channels... but really this kind of rage is unwarranted.
If anything rots your brain it's ignorance and blind, pointless hatred.
Internet arguments aside I thought this update was pretty funny and actually tempted me to pick the game up, still waiting for a reasonable sale though.
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Disgusting trend in gaming.
These "simulator" games are bad for gamers and gaming in general. It makes me sad to see these kind of horrid cashgrab throwaway games make money, even more so to see then getting time on a site that should be mocking this kind of filth.
The issue here is one of taste.
I would never want to play a "wacky" mmo. But I'm sure there are people who would be all for it.
Just like I cringe (and despise) mmo's that offer tuxedos, jumpers, WWI helmets, tutus, goggles.
But, there are people who love this stuff. I think iot pollutes the landscape. But that's just me.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
All to their own of course, but we've already seen how well Wildstar and WoW's Pandara did vs more serious efforts like the most recent dragon age and WoD. Perhaps the industry doesn't need more self mocking immature games and needs to take itself a little more seriously?? From the above listed examples gamers money seems to think so.
lol seriously? When did you stop laughing exactly?
Bought Goat Simulator for $10 on steam. Had a few laughs, no regrets. By reading these comments, some people need to pull the poles out of their assholes and remember why they play video games in the first place.
Goat MMO Simulator is anything but a horrid cashgrab throwaway game. I watched someone play it on YouTube. That game had more quality work put into it than most games. If it was just a joke, a five second low quality gag, then I would have ignored it, but seeing the environments and creatures there, the work that went into the chat window, the quests (such as the iQuest: collect apples and bring them to quest giver Steve Works), that definitely put the game on my radar.
And sure, a real MMO wouldn't have gotten away with the bugs and stupid physics gags, but it's still a really big environment to explore with things to do, all the while making good fun of MMO's and other stuff. That's worth a couple of bucks in my book.
Here is my claim to fame, I’m the last surviving member of my sixth grade class. A quarter of them moved away and I didn’t keep in contact with them. But the rest stayed in town and graduated High School. The ones that died in their twenties, died as a result of their being stoned. For two months I was losing a friend every week. The ones that died in their thirties, died as a result of someone else being stoned. Of those who didn’t die because of drugs. Five died serving this country. Eleven died of poor health.
Do I think promoting a game that is part of recreational drug use is bad?Boy: Why can't I talk to Him?
Mom: We don't talk to Priests.
As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
I could have some fun in GS, maybe 30-60 minutes here and there, but there is no point to it, for me, except to laugh.
If people enjoy and want this type of gameplay(?), more power to them. Just do not think to "merge" this into a game where I am trying to connect to my character. I won't play it.
I think these games should be made for those gamers that find them, fun.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
What goat simulator teaches us that you can sell pretty much anything as long as you package it right and get enough enthusiasm from the player base. Problem is, we already have that.
What MMO's need are games that move beyond the cheap jokes and give a lasting experience, and in that aspect goat simulator teaches us nothing.
If you were ever curious about where the line is that transitions a person from geek/nerd to dork, your curiosity has just been sated.
You'll also frequently see the line crossed in the "serious games" crowd as well.
.... I am simply dumb founded on how one simple game can have such a negative affect on people. For the people who see this game as a sign that the seventh seal is broken take a minute and read the history of it.
Goat Simulator started as a joke prototype from an internal one-month game jam held by Coffee Stain Studios in January 2014, after completing work for their game Sanctum 2.[6][7] The game was described by the lead developer Armin Ibrisagic as "an old school skating game, except instead of being a skater, you're a goat, and instead of doing tricks, you wreck stuff".[8] The idea followed after originally pitching the game as a variation ofQWOP, where the player would control the individual limbs of the goat separately with various keyboard keys; this concept was rejected in favor of the more Tony Hawk Pro Skater-type of gameplay the final game presents.[9]Ibrisagic had focused on goats after jokingly trying to convince his coworkers that goats would achieve viral attention on the Internet in much the same way that cats presently do.[9]
The prototype used a Nvidia PhysX and Apex physics engine with ragdoll physics for the goat and human models within the Unreal Engine 3, a game engine they were familiar with from the Sanctum series.[6][10][11] In-game assets were purchased from third-party vendors instead of developed in-house, such as the original goat model which the studio acquired for use for less than $20.[9] The prototype was meant to be a parody of various other "weirdly successful" Simulation games presently available, such as Euro Truck Simulator.[12] Ibrisagic had no intention of this becoming a full title, instead only offering the prototype for him and other developers to learn theUnreal Engine alongside other developers that were developing prototypes in more earnest.[6]
Footage of the game in its alpha state was posted to YouTube by Coffee Stain, where it received more than a million views in two days and a large response from fans requesting a full release of the game in part due to variousglitches in the prototype's engine.[3] The appeal of the video was also picked up by the agricultural magazine Modern Farmer.[12][13] Some journalists suggested that the title be developed into a full game even knowing it was meant as a joking title;[14][15] GameSpot editor Danny O'Dwyer supported the full release of the game arguing that "games should be dumb once in a while".[16][17]
Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat_Simulator
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Lol, we do need more humor and parody in our video games, I will never understand why people hate pandarens, but I don't think they quit WoW because of pandas. I'm sure they quit wow because of A) lack of content updates and boredom
dailies don't count as fun content nor do reputation grinds and C) they changed the talent tree system and oversimplified things further and alot of people missed Wrath of the Lich King .
People in Cataclysm were probably desperately hoping for another Wrath of the Lich King expansion, and other people couldn't get past the fact that the alliance was actually working with the horde instead of against them...
It didn't help that you couldn't fly until you were level 90 in pandaria, nor that it cost you 4k gold because some players seem to be impatient and unable to earn any gold. The linear questing structure was more of the problem than the storyline and pandarens in WoW. If they could make it more branched out sandboxy and allow you to fly from the start people probably wouldn't have left it. Yet, boredom and lack of content updates is a constant problem with Blizzard. Scenarios also didn't start until level 90 or heroics, so people always get bored before max level, when all they can run are normal dungeons and solo quests, and some people didn't appreciate pokecraft.
I fail to see why everyone was such a huge fan of Wrath of the Lich King, however I agree that the tabard system for reputation was better than the BC worthless non existant one that they have brought back now (tabards are cosmetic only buyable at exalted and don't give any reputation).
Also, Mists allowed everyone to do a legendary cloak questline as does Warlords of Draenor's ring legendary questline. How was Shadowmourne any better when you had to be a specific sword wielding class to attain/use it? Cataclysm only gave rogues their legendary fangs of the father and casters their fireland staff, but once again a lot of people were left out until Mists, unless they wanted to gimp themselves and use an outdated Shadowmourne. Legendaries still aren't transmogable and thus, you have to put them away every single expansion.
In essence, why so much hate?? Goat simulator looks hilarious and what is wrong with paying 5 or 10 dollars for comedy? People usually pay 50 or 100 bucks for a boxed television series on DVD, I don't see how a game is worthless compared to that...