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  • StanleyMStanleyM Member Posts: 14
    Originally posted by Alverant
    Originally posted by StanleyM

    Hi,

    Wondering if newbies can get into World of Warcraft at this stage? Is it worth it or a decade too late? I'm only thinking of the PvE aspect. Would it be overwhelming in any way?

    Thanks,

    Stanley

    I tried it earlier this year and couldn't get into it. The auto-attack kept messing things up and I couldn't figure out what to do half the time. I wouldn't say it was overwhelming but it was designed for people who thought a certain way and made no effort to explain itself.

    It has a very good tutorial at the moment imho. It shows how to do quests and use keyboard and mouse if one is entirely new to MMORPGs. As for the play style... there are so many games out there that if you don't like this I'm sure you'll find a better one. :-)

     

  • xxtriadxxxxtriadxx Member UncommonPosts: 155

    WoW is the easiest to get into and most newbie friendly MMO you will find.

     

    Playerbase is immense and covers all level ranges....

  • AthisarAthisar Member UncommonPosts: 666

    Sadly they've made the older parts stupidly easy.

    I created a new priest. Before the patch you'd have to run away if a couple of murlocs attacked you at once, now I can take on 5 with barely a scratch.

  • danmax67danmax67 Member UncommonPosts: 37

    OP, why not just try it for free for 20 levels and see what you think?

    For my part, I played on and off from Vanilla up until early Cata, at which point I was no longer enjoying the game so stopped.  Recently, I guess since they had a new expansion coming out, Blizzard gave me a free 10 day trial.  I checked it out and found the game to be dated and not enjoyable.  The community was as bad as ever. I got hit with profanity from one guy becuase I didn't want to duel and when I asked a question about an item in trade chat, I got lots of trolling responses and no real answer.  A couple of people actually whispered me to apologize for the community (which I thought was actually pretty cool of them) and referred me to wowhead.

    Maybe my tastes have changed, but I don't really think that's it. The game itself wasn't fun.  Time has passed it by. Granted, I did not experience the 90+ content, so maybe that's awesome and not to be missed. I get the feeling that's not the case though.

  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001

    OP, WOW is a gear race, so as long as you can get in a good guild that will give you a raiding spot, you will be able to keep at a reasonable competitive state for PVE and PVP.  For PVP its about how fast you can grind out tokens.   Both PVE and PVP if you do not keep up the experience is absolutely awful, where you are have to enter lower skill level raids that is a horrible face-roll with no fun tactics, or the latter in PVP where you are simply out geared to the point where you can be one shotted and can do very little damage to others.

     

     

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • StanleyMStanleyM Member Posts: 14

    Originally posted by xxtriadxx

    WoW is the easiest to get into and most newbie friendly MMO you will find.

     

    Playerbase is immense and covers all level ranges....

    Yes this is really a big positive imho. Activity.

    Originally posted by Athisar

    Sadly they've made the older parts stupidly easy.

    I created a new priest. Before the patch you'd have to run away if a couple of murlocs attacked you at once, now I can take on 5 with barely a scratch.

    As I'm new I don't have a point of reference to how it was, but I totally agree with you that there is no risk involved. When I did quests with murlocs involved I just ran up and collected 4-6 at a time and proceeded to open a can of whatever on them.

    Originally posted by danmax67

    OP, why not just try it for free for 20 levels and see what you think?

    For my part, I played on and off from Vanilla up until early Cata, at which point I was no longer enjoying the game so stopped.  Recently, I guess since they had a new expansion coming out, Blizzard gave me a free 10 day trial.  I checked it out and found the game to be dated and not enjoyable.  The community was as bad as ever. I got hit with profanity from one guy becuase I didn't want to duel and when I asked a question about an item in trade chat, I got lots of trolling responses and no real answer.  A couple of people actually whispered me to apologize for the community (which I thought was actually pretty cool of them) and referred me to wowhead.

    Maybe my tastes have changed, but I don't really think that's it. The game itself wasn't fun.  Time has passed it by. Granted, I did not experience the 90+ content, so maybe that's awesome and not to be missed. I get the feeling that's not the case though.

    I did what you suggested danmax67. I'm now a proud owner of every class to level 20. I also got an offer of 50% off for everything up to the new expansion with 30 days so I bought that... extremely cheap tbh less then an large Starbucks coffe. I'm going to select 2 characters to continue with, one Horde and the other Alliance.

    I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the people. I've met and chatted with a few and we basically goofed around and raced to complete quests just for fun. I guess it's like real life but with the anonymity factor added that makes people act in certain ways.

    I just found a funny youtube playlist about how evil people really are on WoW. I suggest listening to this one if you want to laugh in a tragic kind of way. Preach is a bit overbearing at times with his yelling but he does a good job and is funny telling others WoW stories: 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxFYuvQvT9k

    Originally posted by Bladestrom

    OP, WOW is a gear race, so as long as you can get in a good guild that will give you a raiding spot, you will be able to keep at a reasonable competitive state for PVE and PVP.  For PVP its about how fast you can grind out tokens.   Both PVE and PVP if you do not keep up the experience is absolutely awful, where you are have to enter lower skill level raids that is a horrible face-roll with no fun tactics, or the latter in PVP where you are simply out geared to the point where you can be one shotted and can do very little damage to others.

     

     

    I don't like dealing in absolutes but I'm pretty sure I will never be raiding. I will stick to a very small narrow path of activities that I enjoy and avoid the rest. Each to their own as they say. :-) Thanks!

  • cesmode8cesmode8 Member UncommonPosts: 431

    @OP:

    Quick points about WoW: (see the last bullet point bolded and underlined for the quicker version :p)

    • Its not a gear race, play however fast or slow as you want.
    • Cartoony graphics, if you are into that sort of thing.  Its part of the charm.
    • The game used to be a lot more 'hardcore' or rugged...now it is silly easy to level up and gear up with minimal effort.  You can do zero damage in dungeons and looking for raid(group finder for raids that are adjusted for Pickup group environments) and you can still get gear.  Basically after leveling, you are free to see nearly all of the game without much of a challenge. 
    • The game is not a challenge.  At all.  Unless you slog through a few difficulties at endgame(normal dungeons , heroic dungeons, LFR, normal/heroic raiding, mythic raiding).  Other than Mythic and MAYBE heroic, none of these will provide much of a challenge.
    • The game is very accessible and new player friendly, I feel.  I honestly feel that if you are someone like me who hasn't played WoW much in 3 years, but one month here and there, it is harder to get back into because you are so used to how things were for 4 or 5 years, and now things are so different(yet so much the same).  Its frustrating for me to think about.
    • Blizz pandered to casuals, which is the best business strategy from a $$ standpoint.
    • Anywhere in the industry you go, any other MMO you play, the common reputation that WoW has is that it is carebear...easy, mindless.
    • Combat is very old school.  Tab target, stand still, go through a rotation.  MMos these days are now action combat(have to aim your mouse), more build diversity, movement is life, etc.  
    • Lore is great, aside from MoP...
    • Raids are easily the most interesting thing about the game if you do true raiding and not LFR.
    • Sad reality is: After you get to max level and have no intentions on leveling anything else to max level, unless you plan on PvP'ing or raiding (not including easy-mode LFR), the game does not offer much in endgame.  Pet battles...interesting but you get bored of it.  Scenarios are cake.  Challenge modes...who really does this for endgame?  Garrisons are new and a timesink...good stuff I hear but to what end?  You deck out your garrison to what end? You can craft(like in any MMO, but it is extremely shallow in WoW), run dungeons(which after a few months become exceedingly trivial), or dallies(which WoW is horribly known for shoving down our throats).  Basically, raid normal/heroic/mythic or PvP in battlegrounds/arenas.  Everything else is a means to an end, and if you have no end, no way to test your meddle, gear, skill, then IMO its a waste of time.
     
    If you are looking for a casual leveling experience with a casual endgame, or a story focused type of game that you can progress your character at your own pace with no gear treadmills(gear treadmills are every few months you grind for a new "better statted" gear set) might I suggest:
     
    • Guild Wars 2 (I played this for over a 1.5 yrs.  Best leveling experience Ive ever had.  Gorgeous world, you grind for aesthetic looks not better stats in gear at endgame...World vs World is fun.  But IMO they killed this game with living story.
    • Elder Scrolls Online (I am currently playing this.  slowly leveling, casually, going through the stories which are FANTASTIC!! Crazy build diversity, best in the MMO industry MMO.  The endgame needs a little work but it is less focused on gear, which is good.  The company has made huge changes to this game to make it worth MY time and money.)
     
     
     
  • StanleyMStanleyM Member Posts: 14
    Originally posted by cesmode8

    @OP:

    Quick points about WoW: (see the last bullet point bolded and underlined for the quicker version :p)

    • Its not a gear race, play however fast or slow as you want.
    • Cartoony graphics, if you are into that sort of thing.  Its part of the charm.
    • The game used to be a lot more 'hardcore' or rugged...now it is silly easy to level up and gear up with minimal effort.  You can do zero damage in dungeons and looking for raid(group finder for raids that are adjusted for Pickup group environments) and you can still get gear.  Basically after leveling, you are free to see nearly all of the game without much of a challenge. 
    • The game is not a challenge.  At all.  Unless you slog through a few difficulties at endgame(normal dungeons , heroic dungeons, LFR, normal/heroic raiding, mythic raiding).  Other than Mythic and MAYBE heroic, none of these will provide much of a challenge.
    • The game is very accessible and new player friendly, I feel.  I honestly feel that if you are someone like me who hasn't played WoW much in 3 years, but one month here and there, it is harder to get back into because you are so used to how things were for 4 or 5 years, and now things are so different(yet so much the same).  Its frustrating for me to think about.
    • Blizz pandered to casuals, which is the best business strategy from a $$ standpoint.
    • Anywhere in the industry you go, any other MMO you play, the common reputation that WoW has is that it is carebear...easy, mindless.
    • Combat is very old school.  Tab target, stand still, go through a rotation.  MMos these days are now action combat(have to aim your mouse), more build diversity, movement is life, etc.  
    • Lore is great, aside from MoP...
    • Raids are easily the most interesting thing about the game if you do true raiding and not LFR.
    • Sad reality is: After you get to max level and have no intentions on leveling anything else to max level, unless you plan on PvP'ing or raiding (not including easy-mode LFR), the game does not offer much in endgame.  Pet battles...interesting but you get bored of it.  Scenarios are cake.  Challenge modes...who really does this for endgame?  Garrisons are new and a timesink...good stuff I hear but to what end?  You deck out your garrison to what end? You can craft(like in any MMO, but it is extremely shallow in WoW), run dungeons(which after a few months become exceedingly trivial), or dallies(which WoW is horribly known for shoving down our throats).  Basically, raid normal/heroic/mythic or PvP in battlegrounds/arenas.  Everything else is a means to an end, and if you have no end, no way to test your meddle, gear, skill, then IMO its a waste of time.
     
    If you are looking for a casual leveling experience with a casual endgame, or a story focused type of game that you can progress your character at your own pace with no gear treadmills(gear treadmills are every few months you grind for a new "better statted" gear set) might I suggest:
     
    • Guild Wars 2 (I played this for over a 1.5 yrs.  Best leveling experience Ive ever had.  Gorgeous world, you grind for aesthetic looks not better stats in gear at endgame...World vs World is fun.  But IMO they killed this game with living story.
    • Elder Scrolls Online (I am currently playing this.  slowly leveling, casually, going through the stories which are FANTASTIC!! Crazy build diversity, best in the MMO industry MMO.  The endgame needs a little work but it is less focused on gear, which is good.  The company has made huge changes to this game to make it worth MY time and money.)
     
     
     
    • I'm not really in any hurry. I started from level 1 and have so far done every class to 20 and now selecting two characters to continue with. 
    • I'm OK with the graphics even though they're nothing like ESO, an MMO I we eventually want to try.
    • As for a challenge, I'm really a casual player or a casual niche player that focus on a few things that I like. I do what I enjoy and if stops I'll move on. I'm not a hardcore raider, maybe I should have mentioned that in my original post, sorry.
    • I'm a newbie, and not returning.
    • I can't really comment on Blizzards vision.
    • I'm having fun so far and hopefully that will continue for a while, as it's my first time around and everything is new to me.
    • I don't mind tab targeting and rotation MMOs. Not saying I don't like action oriented just don't mind the old-school either.
    • I honestly think the lore is better in other Blizzard games.
    • I'm not sure what the difference is between true raiding and LFR. What I've gathered from youtube is unfortunately that many people seem to come unprepared and just rock up in LFR without doing any kind of ground work. Maybe it's just the videos I've seen, maybe LFR is great. I will probably never know because if I hit the max cap and have done the normal dungeons I'm most likely moving on if there is nothing really super exciting to do. I'm not going to raid.
    • If what you're saying is true, I guess when my two characters I've selected reach a 100 I'll pack up and move on to ESO, or try an Engineer in GW2. I'm not into time sink stuff, I rather read a book, spend time with family and friends or even learn a new language or solve differential equations.
    Thanks for your view on things, and to everyone else too. This has probably been the most informative replies I've ever gotten to a post, so big thanks again to every single poster that replied.
  • XerekXerek Member CommonPosts: 61
    The base game is on sale for $5.00 and it now includes every expansion pack except the newest (WoD). You get one free month with purchase. Honestly spend the $5 and decide for yourself. :)
  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    Originally posted by cesmode8

    @OP:

    Quick points about WoW: (see the last bullet point bolded and underlined for the quicker version :p)

    • Its not a gear race, play however fast or slow as you want.
    • Cartoony graphics, if you are into that sort of thing.  Its part of the charm.
    • The game used to be a lot more 'hardcore' or rugged...now it is silly easy to level up and gear up with minimal effort.  You can do zero damage in dungeons and looking for raid(group finder for raids that are adjusted for Pickup group environments) and you can still get gear.  Basically after leveling, you are free to see nearly all of the game without much of a challenge. 
    • The game is not a challenge.  At all.  Unless you slog through a few difficulties at endgame(normal dungeons , heroic dungeons, LFR, normal/heroic raiding, mythic raiding).  Other than Mythic and MAYBE heroic, none of these will provide much of a challenge.
    • The game is very accessible and new player friendly, I feel.  I honestly feel that if you are someone like me who hasn't played WoW much in 3 years, but one month here and there, it is harder to get back into because you are so used to how things were for 4 or 5 years, and now things are so different(yet so much the same).  Its frustrating for me to think about.
    • Blizz pandered to casuals, which is the best business strategy from a $$ standpoint.
    • Anywhere in the industry you go, any other MMO you play, the common reputation that WoW has is that it is carebear...easy, mindless.
    • Combat is very old school.  Tab target, stand still, go through a rotation.  MMos these days are now action combat(have to aim your mouse), more build diversity, movement is life, etc.  
    • Lore is great, aside from MoP...
    • Raids are easily the most interesting thing about the game if you do true raiding and not LFR.
    • Sad reality is: After you get to max level and have no intentions on leveling anything else to max level, unless you plan on PvP'ing or raiding (not including easy-mode LFR), the game does not offer much in endgame.  Pet battles...interesting but you get bored of it.  Scenarios are cake.  Challenge modes...who really does this for endgame?  Garrisons are new and a timesink...good stuff I hear but to what end?  You deck out your garrison to what end? You can craft(like in any MMO, but it is extremely shallow in WoW), run dungeons(which after a few months become exceedingly trivial), or dallies(which WoW is horribly known for shoving down our throats).  Basically, raid normal/heroic/mythic or PvP in battlegrounds/arenas.  Everything else is a means to an end, and if you have no end, no way to test your meddle, gear, skill, then IMO its a waste of time.
     
    If you are looking for a casual leveling experience with a casual endgame, or a story focused type of game that you can progress your character at your own pace with no gear treadmills(gear treadmills are every few months you grind for a new "better statted" gear set) might I suggest:
     
    • Guild Wars 2 (I played this for over a 1.5 yrs.  Best leveling experience Ive ever had.  Gorgeous world, you grind for aesthetic looks not better stats in gear at endgame...World vs World is fun.  But IMO they killed this game with living story.
    • Elder Scrolls Online (I am currently playing this.  slowly leveling, casually, going through the stories which are FANTASTIC!! Crazy build diversity, best in the MMO industry MMO.  The endgame needs a little work but it is less focused on gear, which is good.  The company has made huge changes to this game to make it worth MY time and money.)
     
     
     

    I agree with everything here apart from the first point, but i can clarify what i mean.  Wow is a Gear grind if you want to play in mythic (you want challenge, every other skill level will is nerfed over time as usual) or Battlegrounds, or Arena.  If you plan to play say 8 hours a week then you will simply not be able to keep up in gear.  That means you are not at the right level for mythic, and in Battlegrounds or Arena you will simply be out geared to the point where you cannot kill people and those same people can slaughter you - regardless of skill.

    As above,  for casual players  who can only devote so many hours a week GW2 or ESO is a great option regardless of skill.  A mention for LOTR as well, that game has a really nice vibe to it and a very friendly community.

     

     

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • TweFojuTweFoju Member UncommonPosts: 1,236

    i wouldn't recommend you to use the lv 90 scroll, why? because by doing so, you are skipping almost the whole content straight to Draenor..

    its up to you, but you should play from level 1, and it will only take you max 1 month before you hit 100, that is good since the raiding will only start this week, so you aren't that late or anything,

    sure, a 10 year content sounds soo much things to catch up to, sure, you wont feel the raids of many previous expansions ( the normal way of raiding )

    but i am sure you will be soo overwhelmed by the new raiding content, since it is the best one since TBC

    So What Now?

  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
    Originally posted by Xerek
    The base game is on sale for $5.00 and it now includes every expansion pack except the newest (WoD). You get one free month with purchase. Honestly spend the $5 and decide for yourself. :)

    This is the best reply for the OP. Its 5 freaky bucks for levels 1 - 90 and with a free 30 days.  And it is the easiest and the most fun mmo on the market. You will see players everywhere. And if you have any questions post them on the new and returning players board on the wow site. You find many players that will help you.

  • DinastyDinasty Member UncommonPosts: 212

    Don't waste your time, money or effort. 

    Blizzard has totally trashed crafting and many other aspects of the game. 

    The official forums are full of legitimate complaints that may not be addressed for years.

    Stay away.

     

    This of course is just my opinion.

  • leinad312leinad312 Member UncommonPosts: 319
    I'm thinking of giving WoW another go, due to the $5 deal that they've got going on right now. I no longer have access to my old account but I'd want to replay everything anyway as I haven't played since the Burning Crusade.

    Playing - FFXIV,  ESO
    Played - FFXI, WoW, Lineage 2, Guild Wars, Aion, SWToR, LotRO, GW2, TERA, Rift, ArcheAge, TSW

  • knightauditknightaudit Member UncommonPosts: 389

    I got a friend from work to try it and she loves it. She loves all the aspects and enjoys just having fun in the world.

    It is never too late if you think you could enjoy it. If you are not sure .. try the free to play to lv 20.. then get the expansions.

    Just enjoy and have fun

  • sportsfansportsfan Member Posts: 431

    WoW is the only game you need to play if you are even remotely interested in dabbing in MMORPG play.

    The rest is mostly junk that was hyped and pushed by this site and their dwindling number of posters because of the "interest of the industry".

     

    Screw the industry which launched every dead duck for 8 years straight with the most unpolished gaming trash you could ever imagine possible on your screen.

    ------------

    Most of us lost fortunes by listening at these guys, I could cite dozens of aweful products I bought with my hard earned money that did not even last an hour or 3.

    It is telling EVERYTHING really that just one MMORPG still has 10.000.000 subscriptions after 10 years while the rest turned free to play within 2 years after launch.

    That sentence right there tells the UGLY truth about MMORPG land, because people always vote with their wallets.

    ... And WoW had a 2013 yearly revenue of 1.04 billion dollars worldwide , that was more than the numbers 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 COMBINED...

    And WoD was not even launched... which simply added even more to the gap.

     

    ---------

    That WoW superiority is sooooo obvious that in no other industry you will find this kind of dominance within a product range.

    Incredible really, it is as if in the car/phone/Tv//Music/ industry would have one product selling more than all other models 2-9 combined.

    Even discussing this simple fact is ridiculous.

     

     

     

  • StormyYammaschitaStormyYammaschita Member UncommonPosts: 25

    Do you believe that EverQuest Next exists?

     

    SitH happens

  • leinad312leinad312 Member UncommonPosts: 319
    If I buy the WoW $5 deal digitally, does the 30-day game time automatically start? I'm thinking of buying it due to the deal, but don't have the time to really play it right now. Anytime I've bought something on the BNET site, it seems to automatically apply to the account.

    Playing - FFXIV,  ESO
    Played - FFXI, WoW, Lineage 2, Guild Wars, Aion, SWToR, LotRO, GW2, TERA, Rift, ArcheAge, TSW

  • gunmanvladgunmanvlad Member UncommonPosts: 281
    Originally posted by leinad312
    If I buy the WoW $5 deal digitally, does the 30-day game time automatically start? I'm thinking of buying it due to the deal, but don't have the time to really play it right now. Anytime I've bought something on the BNET site, it seems to automatically apply to the account.

    You can gift it to yourself if you're worried about that. Then you get the game code on your e-mail and can apply it whenever you want.

     

    Oh and to answer to post as well, WoW is probably the only MMO out there with a strong PvE focus where you can jump into the game now and not be at any disadvantage even at the VERY high end. Reasons?

    - boost to lvl 90, a step away from cap

    - most ppl are very new to the lvl cap of 100 as well

    - most ppl only have basic dungeon gear so far (you can catch up fast)

    - the economy is starting to stabilize, but you can still make small fortunes with gathering stuff

    - most classes/roles have a beautiful learning curve: easy to pick up rather quickly, but will take a while to refine

    - most of the "grind" is for fluff

    - there are about a bajillion people playing, easy to find a group to do PvE with

  • leinad312leinad312 Member UncommonPosts: 319
    Originally posted by gunmanvlad
    Originally posted by leinad312
    If I buy the WoW $5 deal digitally, does the 30-day game time automatically start? I'm thinking of buying it due to the deal, but don't have the time to really play it right now. Anytime I've bought something on the BNET site, it seems to automatically apply to the account.

    You can gift it to yourself if you're worried about that. Then you get the game code on your e-mail and can apply it whenever you want.

     

    Oh and to answer to post as well, WoW is probably the only MMO out there with a strong PvE focus where you can jump into the game now and not be at any disadvantage even at the VERY high end. Reasons?

    - boost to lvl 90, a step away from cap

    - most ppl are very new to the lvl cap of 100 as well

    - most ppl only have basic dungeon gear so far (you can catch up fast)

    - the economy is starting to stabilize, but you can still make small fortunes with gathering stuff

    - most classes/roles have a beautiful learning curve: easy to pick up rather quickly, but will take a while to refine

    - most of the "grind" is for fluff

    - there are about a bajillion people playing, easy to find a group to do PvE with

    Thanks, I ended up doing that. Someday I'll get around to giving WoW another go, should be fun as I haven't played since BC.

    Playing - FFXIV,  ESO
    Played - FFXI, WoW, Lineage 2, Guild Wars, Aion, SWToR, LotRO, GW2, TERA, Rift, ArcheAge, TSW

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