Originally posted by motanila The 345$ Carrack is the cats maw for exploration. Anything else is suboptimal. Carrack is ex-military ship for exploration and worth every $ .
Doing your "fake fan" routine again, Darth Obvious ?
You DO know that the full description and stats of the Carrack have not been published yet, do you ?
So you have no data to base this statement on ....
Have fun
there is data 345$ making it the most expensive expllarion ship to date. So carrack 345$ is best exploration ship. The carrack 345$ is to 315 explaration class (~70$) what Constelation 225$ or hornet 115$ is to aurora 34 in a dogfight (ie aurora gets it trough all hatches)
there is data 345$ making it the most expensive expllarion ship to date. So carrack 345$ is best exploration ship. The carrack 345$ is to 315 explaration class (~70$) what Constelation 225$ or hornet 115$ is to aurora 34 in a dogfight (ie aurora gets it trough all hatches)
Thats your opinion, to which you are entitled.
Does not make it a fact. There is nothing to test exploration equipment yet, so how do you support your claim of the Carrack being "the best" exploration ship ?
And i win dogfights in Auroras against Origin 315p and Hornets .... fly better with an Aurora, shoot better, ambush them in asteroid fields - and you can win. The pilot matters much more than the ship.
there is data 345$ making it the most expensive expllarion ship to date. So carrack 345$ is best exploration ship. The carrack 345$ is to 315 explaration class (~70$) what Constelation 225$ or hornet 115$ is to aurora 34 in a dogfight (ie aurora gets it trough all hatches)
Thats your opinion, to which you are entitled.
Does not make it a fact. There is nothing to test exploration equipment yet, so how do you support your claim of the Carrack being "the best" exploration ship ?
And i win dogfights in Auroras against Origin 315p and Hornets .... fly better with an Aurora, shoot better, ambush them in asteroid fields - and you can win. The pilot matters much more than the ship.
Have fun
Hornet have more guns, ghimballed, more shield, more hull, better generator. Flying in aurora against an hornet when both pilots are skilled is suicide.
Only way to win is if hornet is afk, noob or badly wounded.
And btw i don't need your approval to be entitled to an opinion.
Hornet have more guns, ghimballed, more shield, more hull, better generator.
--> Won't help him if he hits an asteroid ;-) chasing me. Hornet is as nimble as a pregnant cow at the moment IMHO.
Flying in aurora against an hornet when both pilots are skilled is suicide.
--> IMO Hornet has a higher chance of winning, but flying an Aurora is not suicide. CIG has already published extensive data on the playtesting, including information on how well the different ships fare in PvP ... its their basis for analysing and balancing.
Only way to win is if hornet is afk, noob or badly wounded.
---> An interesting observation .... you were there ? At every fight won by an Aurora against a Hornet ? Impressive ! You must work for CIG to have such in depth knowledge.
--> Or is this .... your personal opinion ... and not fact ?
Hornet have more guns, ghimballed, more shield, more hull, better generator.
--> Won't help him if he hits an asteroid ;-) chasing me. Hornet is as nimble as a pregnant cow at the moment IMHO.
Flying in aurora against an hornet when both pilots are skilled is suicide.
--> IMO Hornet has a higher chance of winning, but flying an Aurora is not suicide. CIG has already published extensive data on the playtesting, including information on how well the different ships fare in PvP ... its their basis for analysing and balancing.
Only way to win is if hornet is afk, noob or badly wounded.
---> An interesting observation .... you were there ? At every fight won by an Aurora against a Hornet ? Impressive ! You must work for CIG to have such in depth knowledge.
--> Or is this .... your personal opinion ... and not fact ?
--> Have fun
It;s a fact. I have both ships and they are not in the same league. Equal skill and fully armed Aurora will loose every time..
--> so do I. I can try any available Arena Commander ship i want.
and they are not in the same league.
--> Hornet is the better fighting ship stat wise, I agree ... but this is a pilot skill game more than a ship stat game
Equal skill and fully armed Aurora will loose every time..
--> in your personal case this might be true. But that still does not make it a universal fact. Auroras HAVE won against Hornets. Here is an example from Youtube (and no, thats not a video I have posted):
--> so do I. I can try any available Arena Commander ship i want.
and they are not in the same league.
--> Hornet is the better fighting ship stat wise, I agree ... but this is a pilot skill game more than a ship stat game
Equal skill and fully armed Aurora will loose every time..
--> in your personal case this might be true. But that still does not make it a universal fact. Auroras HAVE won against Hornets. Here is an example from Youtube (and no, thats not a video I have posted):
went and watched that video. You would think that for 100 million dollars, they would have somebody in house to tell them that you can't hear things explode in space, or lasers whizzing by.
you have absolutely no idea what I would, or would not like.
Have fun
That is correct.
So the direct question: Would you buy a game with the space combat described as in the article ?
(Average length of engagement: milliseconds; average type of maneuverability : almost nothing; average things to see : almost nothing; most devastating weapon: (literally) balls of steel (at relativistic speeds))
The different choices (10 events, 20 choices, 60 different outcomes) could be a good indication what CIG has planned for explorers. They could reflect typical scenarios that an explorer could experience in the line of duty. And what perils they face - crew morale being a bigger challenge than hostile action !
I would wait until there is a game before paying anything.
Right now there are allot of promises and I don't see this game being launched in the next 2-3 years.
There is a game right now. Arena Commander has been released for quite a while, and gets constant updates. v1.0 just dropped as well, quadrupling the number of flyable ships. On top of that, they have regular dev diaries and huge amounts of infromation and videos from inside the studio. The FPS and Social models are both quite close to release.
Just because every module isn't released doesn't mean there isn't a game.
However, if you're not a fan of early-access or supporting alpha stage games, I totally agree with you.
Originally posted by nebb1234
Originally posted by Erillion
Originally posted by motanila
It;s a fact.
--> only in your personal case, it seems.
I have both ships
--> so do I. I can try any available Arena Commander ship i want.
and they are not in the same league.
--> Hornet is the better fighting ship stat wise, I agree ... but this is a pilot skill game more than a ship stat game
Equal skill and fully armed Aurora will loose every time..
--> in your personal case this might be true. But that still does not make it a universal fact. Auroras HAVE won against Hornets. Here is an example from Youtube (and no, thats not a video I have posted):
went and watched that video. You would think that for 100 million dollars, they would have somebody in house to tell them that you can't hear things explode in space, or lasers whizzing by.
I thought this was a sim?
They've actually specifically addressed this before. For gameplay reasons, sounds are added in (and there will be a realism mode option for sound), and are explained in-lore by the cockpit recreating these sounds to help with situational awareness.
Originally posted by motanila The 345$ Carrack is the cats maw for exploration. Anything else is suboptimal. Carrack is ex-military ship for exploration and worth every $ .
Why do you constantly do this weird bullshit "I'm a fan" thing when you so clearly hate every aspect of the game and only seek to create flame wars in these forums?
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Carrack is best explaration ship. End of storry.
You DO know that the full description and stats of the Carrack have not been published yet, do you ?
So you have no data to base this statement on ....
Have fun
there is data 345$ making it the most expensive expllarion ship to date. So carrack 345$ is best exploration ship. The carrack 345$ is to 315 explaration class (~70$) what Constelation 225$ or hornet 115$ is to aurora 34 in a dogfight (ie aurora gets it trough all hatches)
Thats your opinion, to which you are entitled.
Does not make it a fact. There is nothing to test exploration equipment yet, so how do you support your claim of the Carrack being "the best" exploration ship ?
And i win dogfights in Auroras against Origin 315p and Hornets .... fly better with an Aurora, shoot better, ambush them in asteroid fields - and you can win. The pilot matters much more than the ship.
Have fun
Hornet have more guns, ghimballed, more shield, more hull, better generator. Flying in aurora against an hornet when both pilots are skilled is suicide.
Only way to win is if hornet is afk, noob or badly wounded.
And btw i don't need your approval to be entitled to an opinion.
It;s a fact. I have both ships and they are not in the same league. Equal skill and fully armed Aurora will loose every time..
went and watched that video. You would think that for 100 million dollars, they would have somebody in house to tell them that you can't hear things explode in space, or lasers whizzing by.
I thought this was a sim?
Ever watched a Star Wars movie ?
Its a sim, but it should be a FUN sim ... that includes some cool sound effects.
You would not like realistic space combat:
http://gizmodo.com/5426453/the-physics-of-space-battles
Have fun
you have absolutely no idea what I would, or would not like.
Have fun
That is correct.
So the direct question: Would you buy a game with the space combat described as in the article ?
(Average length of engagement: milliseconds; average type of maneuverability : almost nothing; average things to see : almost nothing; most devastating weapon: (literally) balls of steel (at relativistic speeds))
Have fun
Hell no. I think this whole thing is absolutely ridiculous.
I also think that you are a paid advertiser.
Have fun
I would wait until there is a game before paying anything.
Right now there are allot of promises and I don't see this game being launched in the next 2-3 years.
There is an exploration mini-game (text based) in the Carrack description on the webpage (scroll down):
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14323-Into-The-Unknown-A-Carrack-Her-Crew
The different choices (10 events, 20 choices, 60 different outcomes) could be a good indication what CIG has planned for explorers. They could reflect typical scenarios that an explorer could experience in the line of duty. And what perils they face - crew morale being a bigger challenge than hostile action !
Have fun
There is a game right now. Arena Commander has been released for quite a while, and gets constant updates. v1.0 just dropped as well, quadrupling the number of flyable ships. On top of that, they have regular dev diaries and huge amounts of infromation and videos from inside the studio. The FPS and Social models are both quite close to release.
Just because every module isn't released doesn't mean there isn't a game.
However, if you're not a fan of early-access or supporting alpha stage games, I totally agree with you.
They've actually specifically addressed this before. For gameplay reasons, sounds are added in (and there will be a realism mode option for sound), and are explained in-lore by the cockpit recreating these sounds to help with situational awareness. Why do you constantly do this weird bullshit "I'm a fan" thing when you so clearly hate every aspect of the game and only seek to create flame wars in these forums?