Originally posted by Adjuvant1 Most polls have a margin for error +/- 3 or 5%, so the result isn't particularly telling except to say both games have avid communities and it was a good fight.
Originally posted by Adjuvant1 Most polls have a margin for error +/- 3 or 5%, so the result isn't particularly telling except to say both games have avid communities and it was a good fight.
You know this is a scientific poll right?
Maybe for pharmaceutical companies it is! Let's see, how much will the sale of ADD and anti-o/c meds raise this year...
Originally posted by Adjuvant1 Most polls have a margin for error +/- 3 or 5%, so the result isn't particularly telling except to say both games have avid communities and it was a good fight.
Since not all games actually took the time to tell their communities to vote, the whole poll is rather about dedication. Most people awaited GW2 and WoW being in the finals but neither of the companies bothered to inform their communities to vote. The results could have been different if every game bothered to inform their community by a message on the client that they can support the game by voting.
Either way though.. ESO, TSW, Eve and Lotro are good games and they deserve all good at the end of the day.
It was a great fight, but congrats to ESO on the win - you guys definitely rallied the troops. Glad we made it a little hard on ya though! Now to try out the ESO box I got for Christmas...
I was definitely one of your more avid opponents in advertising this face-off and getting people to vote for TSW, but it is what it is. I'm impressed by your community effort. Because of that, you were a much harder opponent than GW2. Well done ^^,
Now, I'm installing ESO again to see what the game is like now since I last tried it out in May
Originally posted by Tumlin It appears mmorpg.com have left the voting open well after the deadline in the hope that TSW will pass ESO and then they can slam it shut and announce TSW as the winner?... I really hope this is not the case. ESO won 9 hours ago.
lol, conspiracy much? ESO has won. That's it.
The last time MMORPG did a similar contest didnt they get into hot water with Rockstar after Skyrim beat GTA? Both Rockstar and Funcom get advertised quite a bit on this site on the front page.. Just saying ahahaha.
Originally posted by Tumlin It appears mmorpg.com have left the voting open well after the deadline in the hope that TSW will pass ESO and then they can slam it shut and announce TSW as the winner?... I really hope this is not the case. ESO won 9 hours ago.
Evidently you haven't noticed that every single one of these votes have not been listed as 'closed' until about a day after the deadline. Then all in that phase were listed as 'closed' at the same time. None of the totals changed for any pairing between the deadline and when they were marked 'closed'. It may be that the time between the deadline and the official closing is when MMORPG.com checks for......irregularities.
ESO in its actual state didn't deserve to win. Crappy PVP with everyone playing the same cheaty shit stacking billions of armors, VR annyoing, Craglorn annoying too, etc ...
But I still voted for him, thinking about a brighter future that will probably begin with the 1.6 patch.
(If some of my sentences are weird it's because i'm not english)
ESO in its actual state didn't deserve to win. Crappy PVP with everyone playing the same cheaty shit stacking billions of armors, VR annyoing, Craglorn annoying too, etc ...
But I still voted for him, thinking about a brighter future that will probably begin with the 1.6 patch.
(If some of my sentences are weird it's because i'm not english)
Originally posted by Despair9To put it against TSW however, ESO is miles ahead, in content, quality of content etc. Don't be silly most of people don't even know what TSW is nor have ever heard of it, they are just voting against the most popular games. Some deserved to be popular (ESO did), others didn't (WoW).
Don't be silly. ESO may be more popular, because it is a well known franchise. But TSW's quality of content is MILES ahead of ESO.
That is so funny & lame at same time but can't expect much from them, they are desperate badly.
They should be disqualified for that, period !
PS: Also there is no way to make last comments show up 1st ? Getting tired to scrol all the way down..
Other games, the fans rallied and voted.
ESO, the company had to post on their launcher for their fans to go support them...lol
If you cant win with just the Elder Scroll IP alone, that pretty much tells you the game is bad.
Well people complained and said this wasn't happening. So to all these ESO people who said this wasn't happening and called out the people who said it was so, what do you have to say? Sadly I imagine most of them were brand new accounts.
Damn, ESO is so sad. Give them the medal, dude, they really want it.
My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.
ESO devs put a notice on their launcher. It is NOT against the rules. TSW devs (actually the community manager since FC gave most staff the holidays off) put a notice on the TSW launcher but only much later after most people had already logged on. Good strategic move, not illegal in any way. Our devs either missed the ball or were very carefully staying out of it because of the accusations leveled earlier. Either way, there is absolutely nothing wrong in the rules about a company posting to inform their community about the contest. It is illegal to coerce your community to vote or bribe them to vote.
ESO is obviously going to win the final poll, and probably by a sizable margin. Every post is just about ESO, and no one is even mentioning the other game that won in the semi-finals. That other game is squeaking through just because it's so far below the MMORPG demographic's radar while in direct competition against games that this site actively hates.
Originally posted by Paragonian ESO is obviously going to win the final poll, and probably by a sizable margin. Every post is just about ESO, and no one is even mentioning the other game that won in the semi-finals. That other game is squeaking through just because it's so far below the MMORPG demographic's radar while in direct competition against games that this site actively hates.
Classy. Actually, with a few exceptions (you ARE one), the communities have been mature, confrontational but mature and respectful.
Originally posted by Jomsviking ESO devs put a notice on their launcher. It is NOT against the rules. TSW devs (actually the community manager since FC gave most staff the holidays off) put a notice on the TSW launcher but only much later after most people had already logged on. Good strategic move, not illegal in any way. Our devs either missed the ball or were very carefully staying out of it because of the accusations leveled earlier. Either way, there is absolutely nothing wrong in the rules about a company posting to inform their community about the contest. It is illegal to coerce your community to vote or bribe them to vote.
I didn't see any notice on my ESO launcher - mostly because a lot of its players don't use it (I don't, I launch directly unless it's a patch day.) The reason for that is there was kind of a bad memory leak associated with it some months ago - it's been fixed, but i got out of the habit of using the launcher.
I heard about this contest from a fellow player over on the ESO forums.
Word of mouth on either side is fair play.
It was an exciting contest to watch, either way.
And no, I won't slag Secret World. I haven't played it, for one thing. Looking at it, yeah, it looks like it might be OK, but I personally have no interest in RPGs that don't offer playable non-ape ("beast") races. I'm probably one of few people who didn't find Pandaren to be stupid at all (they're a perfectly good people, and strike me more as Irish-American, than Chinese. I don't associate over-eating and drunkenness with Chinese people or their culture, for some reason ...)
My favourite all time RPG is, after all, Werewolf: the Apocalypse.
Wow I can't believe EvE lost to LoTRO - EvE is certainly boring at times, but it is still one of the most incredible games to participate in, where LoTRO is host to one of the more vanilla-feeling (though certainly polished) experiences in MMORPGs. I can only guess that EvE's weak as hell "questing" dragged it down. LoTRO certainly has some great lore to pull from, but I actually always loved EvE's lore far more - but the damn stuff is not found in game, it is on their website, under Eve Chronicles.
On the other side, I can't believe TSW got so close to ESO. TSW has such awful gameplay, it gets recommended solely on the high strength of the awesome quests it has. Having the best questing in MMOs does not do much for me if I can't stand to deal with the combat. ESO is a far more well-rounded game, with good questing, combat, immersion, etc. I think ZOS is showing that they can really clean things up - a disaster at launch is now an excellent experience. I look forward to their upcoming update adding stealing and bounties.
And I'm really surprised EVE lost. I've respected what I've heard about it. I probably wouldn't mind it it - it sounds like such a deep game ... but I probably would fail to understand it.
I can't seem to edit my first post about Angry Joe. I realize it sounds kind of childish - but so was he. He just based his opinion on an hour or so of play, at around launch (or late beta?) I played since January beta, got early access, can put my Khajit and Argonians in any alliance I want to. Yeah, some of my early characters got blocked by bugged quests, but those quests are fixed now (and I still need to fix my badly-built early Frankenstein experiments.)
It's a much better-feeling game now than it was in April (though I've heard some complaints on the PvP side about lag, but it could just be people playing on potatoes). And around February or so, it'll be a different game, with the Justice System.
I'm parking myself because of what they said about Champion points (I'm not angry, I just wish to conserve quests on my main; I'm almost done Cadwell's Gold on it, finally). I went back to Skyrim just to train myself NOT TO STEAL - not to just automatically open up and grab everything I see. I've got lots of ESO characters on both servers, see, just because I was experimenting. It was really fun to let my lowbies just Hoover up everything in sight. I'm gonna kind of miss that.
Oh, and I only played STO and SWTOR for an hour or so, too. I wouldn't call them bad games on that basis.
I just have a problem playing in third person now, after playing ESO in first person mode all year, and always playing Skyrim in first-person as well.
The trick is kiting, and being aware of when jerkfaces want to jump over your head to backstab you. I've gotten surprisingly good at ESO; the combat (despite animation problems) just seems more organic to me than it has done for .. ANY computer game Iv'e ever played (and I'll admit, I haven't played many in my 46 years of labouring like a dog.)
Originally posted by Jomsviking ESO devs put a notice on their launcher. It is NOT against the rules. TSW devs (actually the community manager since FC gave most staff the holidays off) put a notice on the TSW launcher but only much later after most people had already logged on. Good strategic move, not illegal in any way. Our devs either missed the ball or were very carefully staying out of it because of the accusations leveled earlier. Either way, there is absolutely nothing wrong in the rules about a company posting to inform their community about the contest. It is illegal to coerce your community to vote or bribe them to vote.
I didn't see any notice on my ESO launcher - mostly because a lot of its players don't use it (I don't, I launch directly unless it's a patch day.) The reason for that is there was kind of a bad memory leak associated with it some months ago - it's been fixed, but i got out of the habit of using the launcher.
I heard about this contest from a fellow player over on the ESO forums.
Word of mouth on either side is fair play.
It was an exciting contest to watch, either way.
And no, I won't slag Secret World. I haven't played it, for one thing. Looking at it, yeah, it looks like it might be OK, but I personally have no interest in RPGs that don't offer playable non-ape ("beast") races. I'm probably one of few people who didn't find Pandaren to be stupid at all (they're a perfectly good people, and strike me more as Irish-American, than Chinese. I don't associate over-eating and drunkenness with Chinese people or their culture, for some reason ...)
My favourite all time RPG is, after all, Werewolf: the Apocalypse.
I saw it when I logged on. It was talked about in chat channels as well. I must have voted for ESO at least 20 times or more as I made many accounts. I know a few guys in my guild did the same thing. Who cares what happened or how it happened. ESO won, they let their players know when they logged on so they could vote and they won. It was smart and a great way to get the win fair and square.
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You know this is a scientific poll right?
Maybe for pharmaceutical companies it is! Let's see, how much will the sale of ADD and anti-o/c meds raise this year...
Since not all games actually took the time to tell their communities to vote, the whole poll is rather about dedication. Most people awaited GW2 and WoW being in the finals but neither of the companies bothered to inform their communities to vote. The results could have been different if every game bothered to inform their community by a message on the client that they can support the game by voting.
Either way though.. ESO, TSW, Eve and Lotro are good games and they deserve all good at the end of the day.
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Grats on the win ESO
I was definitely one of your more avid opponents in advertising this face-off and getting people to vote for TSW, but it is what it is. I'm impressed by your community effort. Because of that, you were a much harder opponent than GW2. Well done ^^,
Now, I'm installing ESO again to see what the game is like now since I last tried it out in May
The last time MMORPG did a similar contest didnt they get into hot water with Rockstar after Skyrim beat GTA? Both Rockstar and Funcom get advertised quite a bit on this site on the front page.. Just saying ahahaha.
Evidently you haven't noticed that every single one of these votes have not been listed as 'closed' until about a day after the deadline. Then all in that phase were listed as 'closed' at the same time. None of the totals changed for any pairing between the deadline and when they were marked 'closed'. It may be that the time between the deadline and the official closing is when MMORPG.com checks for......irregularities.
ESO in its actual state didn't deserve to win. Crappy PVP with everyone playing the same cheaty shit stacking billions of armors, VR annyoing, Craglorn annoying too, etc ...
But I still voted for him, thinking about a brighter future that will probably begin with the 1.6 patch.
(If some of my sentences are weird it's because i'm not english)
Probably because it's been out longer?
Other games, the fans rallied and voted.
ESO, the company had to post on their launcher for their fans to go support them...lol
If you cant win with just the Elder Scroll IP alone, that pretty much tells you the game is bad.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
Well people complained and said this wasn't happening. So to all these ESO people who said this wasn't happening and called out the people who said it was so, what do you have to say? Sadly I imagine most of them were brand new accounts.
My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.
Classy. Actually, with a few exceptions (you ARE one), the communities have been mature, confrontational but mature and respectful.
So, way to be, bro. Way to be.
Hurray for ESO.
Take that, "Angry Joe." Blow your hot butt air about something else.
I didn't see any notice on my ESO launcher - mostly because a lot of its players don't use it (I don't, I launch directly unless it's a patch day.) The reason for that is there was kind of a bad memory leak associated with it some months ago - it's been fixed, but i got out of the habit of using the launcher.
I heard about this contest from a fellow player over on the ESO forums.
Word of mouth on either side is fair play.
It was an exciting contest to watch, either way.
And no, I won't slag Secret World. I haven't played it, for one thing. Looking at it, yeah, it looks like it might be OK, but I personally have no interest in RPGs that don't offer playable non-ape ("beast") races. I'm probably one of few people who didn't find Pandaren to be stupid at all (they're a perfectly good people, and strike me more as Irish-American, than Chinese. I don't associate over-eating and drunkenness with Chinese people or their culture, for some reason ...)
My favourite all time RPG is, after all, Werewolf: the Apocalypse.
Wow I can't believe EvE lost to LoTRO - EvE is certainly boring at times, but it is still one of the most incredible games to participate in, where LoTRO is host to one of the more vanilla-feeling (though certainly polished) experiences in MMORPGs. I can only guess that EvE's weak as hell "questing" dragged it down. LoTRO certainly has some great lore to pull from, but I actually always loved EvE's lore far more - but the damn stuff is not found in game, it is on their website, under Eve Chronicles.
On the other side, I can't believe TSW got so close to ESO. TSW has such awful gameplay, it gets recommended solely on the high strength of the awesome quests it has. Having the best questing in MMOs does not do much for me if I can't stand to deal with the combat. ESO is a far more well-rounded game, with good questing, combat, immersion, etc. I think ZOS is showing that they can really clean things up - a disaster at launch is now an excellent experience. I look forward to their upcoming update adding stealing and bounties.
And I'm really surprised EVE lost. I've respected what I've heard about it. I probably wouldn't mind it it - it sounds like such a deep game ... but I probably would fail to understand it.
I can't seem to edit my first post about Angry Joe. I realize it sounds kind of childish - but so was he. He just based his opinion on an hour or so of play, at around launch (or late beta?) I played since January beta, got early access, can put my Khajit and Argonians in any alliance I want to. Yeah, some of my early characters got blocked by bugged quests, but those quests are fixed now (and I still need to fix my badly-built early Frankenstein experiments.)
It's a much better-feeling game now than it was in April (though I've heard some complaints on the PvP side about lag, but it could just be people playing on potatoes). And around February or so, it'll be a different game, with the Justice System.
I'm parking myself because of what they said about Champion points (I'm not angry, I just wish to conserve quests on my main; I'm almost done Cadwell's Gold on it, finally). I went back to Skyrim just to train myself NOT TO STEAL - not to just automatically open up and grab everything I see. I've got lots of ESO characters on both servers, see, just because I was experimenting. It was really fun to let my lowbies just Hoover up everything in sight. I'm gonna kind of miss that.
Oh, and I only played STO and SWTOR for an hour or so, too. I wouldn't call them bad games on that basis.
I just have a problem playing in third person now, after playing ESO in first person mode all year, and always playing Skyrim in first-person as well.
The trick is kiting, and being aware of when jerkfaces want to jump over your head to backstab you. I've gotten surprisingly good at ESO; the combat (despite animation problems) just seems more organic to me than it has done for .. ANY computer game Iv'e ever played (and I'll admit, I haven't played many in my 46 years of labouring like a dog.)
I saw it when I logged on. It was talked about in chat channels as well. I must have voted for ESO at least 20 times or more as I made many accounts. I know a few guys in my guild did the same thing. Who cares what happened or how it happened. ESO won, they let their players know when they logged on so they could vote and they won. It was smart and a great way to get the win fair and square.