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Will this game appeal to me as a former WoW player?
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With the pvp servers less than a month away, i am very interested in giving it a shot due to being annoyed by their mental age of half of the WoW community and looking for a more mature audience to game with.
I already have played this game for a small amount of time about a year ago but i can barely remember my experiences so i have a few questions..
1: Does it work like WoW, you get new places to goto every 10 levels where you can quest, party and do a range of things?
2: How are the other areas of the game lke in terms of fantasy feel, originality and general "coolness"? The one thing i liked about WoW, is how each area had it's own feel to it and i was amazed by the prettyness of it.
3: How are the quests in this game? Is it like WoW where you either go from A to B or kill x amount of things?
4: How is the soloability in this game?
5: If i do get the game, i will be rolling a ranger, how are these class in general? From what i have found out, they sound like a rogue/hunter hybrid and in a GOOD way. How would they perform at ganking? (yeah i know it's immature but i can't deny the "feel good" feeling i get when knowing that somewhere across the world, i got someone shaking their first at their monitor and swearing, i blame WoW for that!)
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Basicly, its a little tuffer than WOW, but it feels way more rewarding
all od the pics except for the floating islands, i took
and if your joining PVP server go to the non-exchange one(exchange is ware people buy items for real money) ill be on the Non-exchange and my name will be obadno
yes the picture sizes have gone crazy it seems, ill see what i can do on photpucket
The new EQ2, better than ever befor !
don't click this link...
I'm a veteran wow players, and I tried eq2 back in around august of last year, but i ended up going back to wow at level 15, so i never really got far. No i reactivated and playing it again with my old friends who i started eq2 with, as well as some new people. They all still love the game, see people with numerous alts, up higher around 60, and really they say the same things that i feel about wow.
But from what I've seen so far, the quests in EQ2 are much better then ANY of the wow ones(Excluding a few like the alliances onyxia chain)
Like you make a half elf, and arrive in willow woods. There you talk to someone on the docks and you go through a quest line which basically shows how different races treat you for being a half elf. As well as seeing the bonds a human and a elf can have. It was really well thought out, and more intelligent then the wow quests.
I've seen too much in wow "These things bad, they mean, they ugly, go kill" Thats basically all of the quests.
Not to mention one of the best quest lines in the game(wow) is incomplete "The missing diplomat"
The new EQ2, better than ever befor !
don't click this link...
EQ2 is remarkably similar to WoW. Here is a quick list that just touches the surface:
* Griffins for flying transportation (the animation of the EQ2 griffin is horribly stiff)
* Two opposing, seperated factions (the restrictions are very light, even less restrictive today with the new character progression system)
* Elite status mobs (EQ2 calls these heoric, and has multiple levels of heroic)
* PvP battleground areas, including Capture The Flag (in EQ2 theyre called Arenas, and were added with the Desert of Flames expansion)
* Hearthstoning / recalling to bind point once per half hour (EQ2s version is extremely limited, taking you back only to either Qeynos or Freeport)
* In-game email system that that allows you to send text, coin and/or an item (EQ2s mailboxes are much more difficult to find, IMO)
* minor: Searchable database of player sold items (auction house in WoW is significantly more user friendly)
* minor(?): Most items are bound to the character upon equipping (EQ2s soulbinding is optional; you can wear to check appearance but receive no benefit from the item)
There are other similarities, such as icons above the heads of NPCs to represent the start, progress, or finishing step of a quest.
Screenshots have already been presented so I won't need to touch on that...
Quests do boil down to Kill X Ammount of Y, or Gather X Ammount of Item A, B, & C. However, I do have to admit that the new starting quests are very interesting. They also produce very good armor / items. So you'll hit to about 12th or 13th level before hitting the mindless grind. For more thoughts on the new starting experience, click here, or check the various posts on this site.
Soloability is very good. My highest level character is in his lower 30s and he has soloed the vast majority of these levels. It's terribly boring, usually, but it's certainly possible.
I can't give opinions about the Ranger class. I've never played it. The three classes that I've played over the last two months (and some change) the most are necro (lower 30s), monk (lvl 16) and Assassin (lower 20s).
I also don't participate in PvP, but you can't really gank kills (kill steal) in EQ2. Encounters can be locked, and the worse that can happen to the other player is that they receive reduced exp and loot. As far as I know, the KSer receives no credit for the kill regardless.
I don't really like EQ2, but I am impressed with the new changes. Grab the trial and have a go.
~Mysk
Actually locked encounters have been removed, griff animations fixed, and they added alot of mailboxes, and the factions mean somthing now, since you can gain faction points.
The hearthstone is minor, you can change it to any zone in the city once you do a quest.
As for the Auction house, i found it more cumbersome than EQ2 and harder to use. Though i really liked the try-on feature, that was nice.
The new EQ2, better than ever befor !
don't click this link...
I still find the grif animation to be pretty stiff, comparitively speaking. The WoW griff has a very fluid movement to it, but that's probably more a result of their over all art style. For better or worse they don't try to be realistic.
The "hearthstone" (aka "Call of The Overlord") is significantly limited compared to WoW's system. In EQ2 you can bind yourself only to the zones in either Freeport or Qeynos. Where in WoW you can bind yourself to outposts and other towns as you travel around the world. This makes travel much less restrictive / time consuming.
As for the AH / Broker system, I find that EQ2's broker system is a bit convoluted. While in your house you can't buy, but you can browse. Broker's are occasionally difficult to find (there's no single Auction House location). WoW's AH provides a mouse over tool-tip that shows the stats of your currently equipped item, this allows you to easily compare gear, and as you pointed out you can preview the look of the item on your character.
I'm not saying that one game is better than the other. I'm simply pointing out the reasons for my opinions given in my earlier post.
~Tired Mysk
As a person that has played both of these games in depth, I'm going to give you my honest opinion to each of your questions. I'm going to get pwned by SOE fan boys though.
Your Question: Does it work like WoW, you get new places to go to every 10 levels where you can quest, party and do a range of things?
My Answer: No. Everquest 2 is much more linear than WoW. They put certain restrictions on zones you can travel to based on your level, unless they have changed it since I played. Level 1 through 20 will either be Antonica or Freeport, and it got rather boring for me. Sure there may be an instanced dungeon or two along the way, but basically you are going to be in the same area.
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Your Question: How are the other areas of the game lke in terms of fantasy feel, originality and general "coolness"? The one thing i liked about WoW, is how each area had it's own feel to it and i was amazed by the prettyness of it.
My Answer: It is very similar actually, but the world on WoW is much larger and more diverse. There are certain zones on EQ 2 than can be mistaken for the same one at a glance.
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Your Question: How are the quests in this game? Is it like WoW where you either go from A to B or kill x amount of things?
My Answer: Yes, pretty much the same. It wasn't on release though. SOE (Not hating here, just stating a fact) copied a lot from World of Warcraft. I.E. the quest system, and the rested experience feature.
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Your Question: How is the soloability in this game?
My Answer: Horrible. That is one of the main problems I had in EQ 2. I couldn't solo at all, as a Ranger or a Warrior.
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Your Question: If i do get the game, i will be rolling a ranger, how are these class in general? From what i have found out, they sound like a rogue/hunter hybrid and in a GOOD way. How would they perform at ganking? (yeah i know it's immature but i can't deny the "feel good" feeling i get when knowing that somewhere across the world, i got someone shaking their first at their monitor and swearing, i blame WoW for that!)
My Answer: Rangers are fun, but here's an issue. There is hardly any diversity among classes in Everquest. They didn't make it where you had to have a specific class in your group, does that make sense? Look at WoW, remember how you had a Mage for crowd control? Remember how they used the polymorph spell? Almost all of the magic classes in EQ 2 can do that, and to me that takes away from uniqueness.
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In closing, EQ 2 is an excellent game, but just to be frank with you, WoW is much better. I understand your gripe about the immaturity on all the servers though. This has always been an issue with Blizzard's community. The main issue I have with Everquest 2, is that it wasn't Everquest 1 part 2, it was a completely revamped game. That's the issue. Coming from WoW, you are going to be dissappointed. Also, I hope you like to see flying carpets
Good luck with your decision.
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Helios
I just have to ask you Helios2004, in all honesty, when was the last time you played EQ2?
Cos if you can't successfully completely solo to at least level 30 with a Ranger... well... you are doing something very seriously wrong.
My guess is you haven't touched a Ranger since Live Update 18 or 19 at least, cos if you have you some serious instructions on how to solo as a Ranger, no personal offence meant.
Rangers are arguably one of the easiest soloing classes now in my opinion.
And a few other of your answers seemed a bit EQ2Part2 or so (it's up to change # EQ2Part10 or so now with all the complete overhauls they've done.. *sigh*)
It sounds rather biased too, it's not a very true representation of the current EQ2 game.
And for the record, I'm neither an SoE or Blizzard fanboi. I hate them both just the same; but play both the games (along with DR) due to complete lack of anything else of worth out atm. I could promote and flame both EQ2 and WoW equally).
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ya i was about to ask the Same Question Arremus when was the last time he played eq2 you can travel to any zone in the game there is no lvl requrments to enter a zone and after eq2 went live they changed it so there were no restrictions like i will tell everone of you Eq2 has a hole new deck of playing cards if you like challageing in deepth questing and Raiding Eq2 and the Bring a whole new Element to the MMo world
Rangers btw have the Longest ranged attacks in the game and the most deadly
but assassins out DMG them just by a bit
Tinylove shadowplage lvl 51 Necro lvl 60 sage sever Everfrost
GL all
It's been a while. I mean I'm not going to lie about that. I played beta, into release, and up to about level 40 or so, and I just wasn't that impressed. I think I also stated "unless they have changed it since I played" I was simply going based on what I knew, and believe me, at the time, I couldn't solo, and I know what I'm doing. Some may call me a newb or since I couldn't solo, but I've played a few mmorpg's in my day. (EQ1 60 Druid, 60 Warrior -- Pre 2002[EQ1's Golden Age])
But back on topic, the guy was asking for suggestions, and I frankly just gave my honest opinion, and maybe it is biased, but it's just a fact that WoW is a better game. I think numbers speak for themselves (what, EQ2's ~ 300,000? vs. WoW's ~ 6,000,000) And I say, I'm not a Blizzard lover by any means, but as far as a quality product, WoW is your true winner here.
I'm not trying to sway anyone over to WoW like all these other losers on the other posts, I'm just stating what I think about the game. It's nothing more than my opinion.
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Helios
(It's been a while. I mean I'm not going to lie about that) and theres my ponit you know nothing about the Game you of all people if your not lieing throw your teeth should know SOE constinly is changing things and if its been as long as you Said Beta you know nothing its a completly differnt game
(unless they have changed it since I played) they have its not like anything you played in beta at all and. not trying to offend any WoW players out there but i played beta for wow and i played live for 5 months i dont like that game at all just not me and thats ok if you want to play WoW go for it
but eq2 has a hole new deck of playing cards and helios2004 i challage you to start eq2 with KoS and play it seek me out on Everfrost or on the new Pvp sever my char's name will be Nicci
If you are looking for something that has a little more depth than WoW but is still not the punishing grindfest that most MMORPGs are, EQ II is a good joice, imo. EQ II is a little more "generic fantasy" setting feeling to me (compared to WoW), but overall I think it's a very good game.
I tried it about six months after launch, and i found it just as easy to quest and solo as WoW. The crafting system is also 1000x better than the one in WoW, if that's your bag. The ability to decorate an apartment is also a nice touch, and another a fun diversion that WoW lacks entirely. I have to agree with some of the others that the auctioning system leaves a bit to be desired (it is pretty clunky and arcane compared to the one in WoW). But overall, the changes that have gone in since luanch have made it so that if you once liked WoW, but got bored with it, you will almost certainly like EQ II. The EQ II devs have done a very good job of ripping off WoW when it improves their game, while still retaining the features that make EQ II distinct and a deeper experience.
I know I didn't answer any of your specific questions, but i hope the general tone of my answer was a bit helpfull
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.