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Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn: Three Square Enix MMOs Combine for 1M Subscribers
SBFord
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According to the latest financials from Square Enix, three of the gaming company's MMOs have nearly one million subscribers combined. The numbers were revealed in the President's Message attached to the SE financials and reveal the numbers from Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy XIV and Dragon Quest X.
President’s Message Three major MMO titles—“FINAL FANTASY XIV: A REALM REBORN,” which began operation last August, “DRAGON QUEST X,” which was launched in August 2012, and “FINAL FANTASY XI,” which has entered its thirteenth year of operation—maintain nearly 1,000,000 paying subscribers all together, and have established a solid revenue base
Check out the full Square Enix financial report.
Via Polygon
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Not for certain. Although Yoshi did say that FFXIV had over 2.5 million registrations (not the same as paying subs, but probably still resulting in a larger number than August 2014) in a recent statement. Not debating that this is the "latest" official released financial statement... just saying that some context might be nice.
Any news on DQ 10 being released in the west?
Am i the only one who thinks it would be the best timing ever to release it now with the lack of new MMO's
No MMO in a post SWTOR world will ever announce game subscription numbers if they are under 1 million.
Final Fantasy is not a failure like SWTOR and other games that released in the past years. It really is the only mmo released in the last 10 years that I can is a real success even if it took them 2 tries to achieve it.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6545299#6545299
"Outdated information is outdated. It has since been released in different areas around the world, as well as being spoken of in interviews since. According to such -- and observable evidence such as adding more servers and staff whereas most games ditch such by now -- the game has grown in population. There was further elaboration when all three producers of these games got together and spoke of the future of online games for Square Enix (which came down to FFXIV having the vast majority of subscriptions even with the other two combined). Though this was also with one of the Three not being out on the world market, with FFXIV also (at the time) still not being released in China (in addition to the PS4 version not yet released). Irregardless, at the time they noted some 600,000 unique account log-ins per day with FFXIV, if I recall. With many more only logging in every other day (this was without a trial version at the time; they have since released a trial version, which no doubt netted even more subscriptions for those who enjoyed it).
I'd expect the next expansion will also increase it's numbers as well, in addition to many of the positive improvements made over the year. In addition to Gold Saucer bringing a lot of the FF7 fan community in for a test ride.
Still haven't touched the game since they released personal housing, however. Though I hear the servers I played on are still quite full. No real interest or excitement in going back myself."
Please just stop posting financial news on this site, or get someone who is trained at collecting information (granted my irritation on the matter may make me sound harsh in that regard; mistakes are made, and troll posts on polygon aren't exactly rare) for such. Posting a financial report with year old information as "the latest" was awful when someone tried to do it in the forums. Abysmally amateurish when it was written by a staff member (though easily remedied with an edit to note that the information is old).
I don't care if another site did it first; that's the point of getting someone who is trained in conducting "research" and seeing if something is reliable (though no one is perfect). Besides that, one of the original sources have already redacted it and noted that it is old information.
Unless we all agree that year old information is relevant, or that it's the "latest" because we've heard nothing since in terms of financials. But honestly, with interviews since, and this information ending in March of 2014, it is hardly information that is new. It has been out there for a while.
Semantics. Slow news day. Or just seeing something on the interwebs, and posting it without obligation or responsibilities to the readers.
We'll see the real up-to-date information when the fiscal year ends in March for Square. Hopefully the expansion will be released by then so that things can be gauged adequately. Financials are one thing I think extra attention should be paid for, as I know MMORPG information can be overwhelming as a whole.
tldr; I mad
Also mad.
How is SBFord supposed to know FFXIV released in 2013? It's not like they have a game list around here she could study or anything.
think each server holds 8k at 1 time or something like that. ffxiv has like 600k plus subs
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SE releases outdated numbers - the fans are up in arms:
"Omg this doesn't count this is from last year!"
Round 2 incoming in 12 months. Well played SE.
Actually you're wrong. Square had a press conference last week and THEY used these numbers themselves. They decided to use old numbers to mislead investors and the press. Why? because it's obvious the numbers are a lot lower now so used old outdated numbers. All 3 of those games have lost large numbers of players since then.
Also as an aside here but are people in this thread really implying any mmo has more players 9 months later instead of significantly less? That's not how MMO populations work, if it did WoW would be sitting at 30-40 million by now.
MMO populations don't grow year on year, they decrease year on year because only a small minority actually stick with a title for a long time.
SWTOR has over 500k subs, over a million players a month, and makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year.
All games not named named WoW would KILL to fail that hard lol.
Please do tell....what makes FFXIV a success and SWTOR a failure? Regardless of SWTOR having a F2P option, they both probably have comparable subscription numbers.....I know...you are just talking out of your backside because you don't really have a reason why SE won't release actual monthly player numbers for FFXIV, like EA does for SWTOR and Blizz does for WoW...
The funny thing is, you literally just proved my point. Like I said, in a post SWTOR world, no company is going to release monthly player numbers of their MMO if they are under a million, simply because there are crazies out there that view SWTOR as a "failure", yet its the 2nd most played MMO in the west. If any game releases monthly numbers lower than SWTOR, they are going to have a negative perception, no mater how well and stable the game is.
Almost every MMO launches in China, most every mmo fails in China because it's a far more demanding audience due to having to pay hourly to play and the dominance of the main titles. Again if the numbers are higher why would the head exec of the company not use upto date numbers? He can get these numbers and not be forced to use ones from last march if they were so amazing. Polygon didn't use old numbers, they quoted the CEO last week who was using them.
Again all this is meaningless, an MMO simply does not grow subscriber numbers a year later than what it had when it was new. Population numbers drop year on year (and in many cases month on month), they don't rise. Gw2 launched in China, Rift launched in china and they all still have less players than they did at launch.
It amazes me sometimes that I'm on an MMO forum, are people really buying that an mmo in this day and age has more players a year later than at launch? Populations explode at the start and then receed, that's a fact of the life span of an mmo.
And if FFXIV 1.0 stayed the way it was, it would have killed the series...
We all know why they added a F2P option, it doesn't make SWTOR any less successfull today. Both MMOs had a torubled start, and both did things to turn it around...and both suceeded....... Claiming SWTOR is a failure because it added a F2P option 2 years ago, all while ignoring all the successes and insanly positive turnaround it has had since, is like saying FFXIV failed because it had to shut down and relaunch, ignoring all the success it had afterwards.......
The double standard some FFXIV fans have with SWTOR is off the charts here lol
I agree with this. It's the same story, except SWtoR never closed down for a period of time and because the IP is more popular SWtoR has a stronger following out of the gate.
Among other things, like fixing a lot of what was wrong with it to begin with. F2P was a huge push, but it was the game improvements that caused those newly gained players to stay and spend money/subscribe. Just like the ARR relaunch...had they not fixed what was wrong with the game in 1.0, it too would have failed.
FFXIV was an utter failure in China, they had a decent enough start but they lost players at an amazingly fast rate, aside from everything else it was badly managed by Shanda games which lead to large player losses.
China is one of the few regions where games shut down because players simply leave in incredible numbers, they have minimal loyalty to any title outside of wow.
You would have a better argument to state that it's doing well no matter how many subs it has, because this fight against reality to push the idea that it's the most popular mmo outside of WoW is nonsense. Even the company itself is arguing against you.
That's actually not true. China does have MMORPGs with subscription models, the country also just happens to have another model of payment where it's done on a per hour basis.
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Bioware announces over 1 million players a month, and boy wonder over here calls it an "irregular slip" with "no timeframe"...I guess "every month" doesn't mean every month, as in a frame of time, or you are despretly trying to imply that the "every month" statement could have been referring to months that happened way in the past, and wasn't current? lmao.
You sir just took mmorpg.com SWTOR success denial to a whole new level...
...try harder....