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So what happens later on in game?
elthznd901
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Started playing this game to check it out.. only up to about level 7. So far it feels very anti-social/solo. Like the atmosphere, but sort of feel like I am playing a single player game.
What happens in later levels? Is it all just quest until you get to max level(and on your own)?
Also do you need to complete the quests or can you level just killing mobs and the such?
What do you think of the pvp?
Thanks!
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For the leveling experience you need to join a community to be part of a community, i.e guilds (im in 4 at the mo), once you get to know people it will no longer feel like a solo game. You can kills mobs or quest etc to level. Not sure about max level PVP im not there yet - but you can join when you get to level 10 or something like that and you are bumped up to level 50 without the gear.
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By anti-social/solo do you mean you don't see other players, or are they not talking to you(or you to them?), or is it the questing system which allows for solo play?
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Every single MMO I have played has felt like a single player game until I joined a guild or played with friends. City of Heroes may be the only exception but still the reason was I was always playing in groups.
As per your questions; Later levels invite you to do stuff in groups in Craglorn or you can PvP as well. You can actually start doing PvP at lvl 10.
Yes you need to complete the quests to get the max xp as you level. Grinding mobs is not the best way.
The PvP is fun but it is best done with an organized group.
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I see plenty of players.. I suppose I am asking if people just quest to the end, or does the game encourage grouping? If so, at what level does that happen?
I have played quite a few mmo's... and this one especially feels very solo compared to others. Maybe its the lack of names/guilds above peoples heads, thats mentally screwing with me..lol. I know that is supposed to make it immersive, although I think I dislike that aspect. I will have to try and get used to it I suppose.
Turn on chat bubbles.
Actually the fast way to level is not by doing quests. Mob grinding is the fastest. Next would be all the public dungeons, dolems, sky shards, world mini bosses and exploring. You wont enter a public dungeon w/o seeing multiple people. That's the group part of the leveling experience.
There is nothing like Cyrodiil in the industry. It's a full 3rd of the world map. It's breath taking. From the huge battles to the solo fight to the exploration and questing. I'm nearly a year in and still finding new things from time to time.
edit- to the poster above that spoke of pvp best in groups. Once you know what's going on and have a max level toon solo play is great. I've played solo for all but the first 3 months of the game launching and have ranked top 2% every campaign.
As far as what he said about grinding mobs. It is w/o questing the fastest way to level. You will miss out on a lot of skill points from the main quest lines though.
If at level 7 you think the game feels anti-social/solo then wait for when you reach level 30.. I joined a couple of guilds and the only thing they were doing was questing solo.. I managed to get groups for dungeons when asking in /zone chat since the guilds never helped. And the low level dungeons are the only ones where I manage to get groups. Seems after a month, many didn't resub so by the time I reached level 30, game felt like a ghost town.
I realized that many guilds just care about the perks they get but they need a specific amount of players to have guild bank; I never quested in Cyrodill since no one was questing when asked in chat, just PvPing and following the zerg.
Not all guilds are created equal. If one guild isn't providing you with what you want, find another that does!
It feels solo and anti-social because it is, most guilds are just private chat rooms while everyone solos. No one is going to group with you to do single player questing, why bother? The quests are all designed as single player to be done solo, the game is designed that way. Try and join a guild to make it feel like you actually have other people playing with you, but don't get your hopes up.
Do public dungeons. I never end up bothering to party with the people I meet in there, but every time I go in I meet a bunch of people and a few of us stick together in a quasi-group and work our way through. I dig the public dungeon idea. Would like more public quests, though, the anchors are not as much fun as the WAR public quests were.
As far as questing goes, so far for me all the quests have been all solo oriented. I like that myself, as I want to play with others I would rather have a dungeon or pvp. If you are looking for group quests I am not sure this game has something like that right now.
Definitely give the public dungeons a go, though.
We probably should have said this earlier. ALL of Craglon is group quest. It's a level 50 area though OP. Tons of group quest there. So many infact that people got mad about it lol. How'd we forget Craglorn?
Other than the odd token one here and there in some MMOs, quests are not designed for group play. So yeah, not many people are into trivializing the fights by doing solo quests grouped.
Although I'm sure if you spam the zone chat enough looking for a grinding partner to zip through quests and mobs, you'll get one... have fun with that.
Meanwhile back in reality, I've been in Cyrodiil with the same raid for about 4 hours straight fighting other groups. I haven't noticed any of the 40 or so people that have come and gone being particularly anti-social.
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Well it is the same for me and i don't like it,FFFXI was not like that at all as questing offered no xp and imo it is a totally silly idea that questing does offer xp in games.
Xp is SUPPOSE to be related to your player skills or if actually implemented properly an AGING process NOT i did this many quests therefor i am level 65.
I cannot play anymore games when i see markers over npc heads or markers on maps unless I put those marks on the map.I also cannot play linear questing games that offer xp to quest.Quests are suppose to be to gain favor with a NPC i mean why would you do something for someone in real life?You don't go help your Neighbor shovel snow to get xp lmao.
I also cannot play games where there is no actual role play of your character,as running linear quests then grinding some points or whatever else a game does has imo nothing to do with being a rpg.
A perfect example is i loved the graphics and feel of FFXIV ,i tried to accept lame dailies and instant warping around but when i got to the point where everyone just logs in to repeat grind the Avatars ,i was like my god this is not rpg gaming,this is Wow on rails and i cannot stand Wow.
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I guess I should clarify.. I actually dislike questing in general. Thats why I asked about the leveling with no questing. Im an old fart where you would go camp an area for a while leveling, etc... and you always needed people to help you do it. Sort of miss that as it made an MMO more MMO.. if you know what I mean.
I did turn on chat bubbles.. didnt make a difference. I think you need to see guilds/names as its part of the immersion(not the opposite as I suppose was the goal). Find it interesting you can join multiple guilds.. not what I am used to. Although if I look at it as a function of an economy I can utilize it.
I am going to keep plugging away as so far the game seems interesting to me. There is quite a bit of "cool" stuff and I want to try the pvp. So far visually and challenge wise.. it has worked well.
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There are people all over you can group with, your basically grouped with the whole world anyways.... So if your standing there and some one jumps your mob, you both get credit, or 20 people do you all get credit. Are there slow things like arche age, where you have to wait till 2am for the mobs to spawn, so every one sits around for hours wait, nah not that i see.
You also get bonuses if you group up for fishing, and you get even more bonuses if you group up with the same level crafter, and you guys deconstruct each others stuff.
It sounds like you are the one being anti social. Its like going into a bar, and sitting off to the side, and staring at the tv and wondering why no one is talk to you lol, and calling the bar a anit social bar. There are plenty of people, and plenty of things to do with those people. A lot of people dont want to group with other people, so they can do that to. It is def a good design, it doesnt force you to group from what i see.
The new content for end level does from what i read. There are arenas where you got to get a group going to beat it.
Hey guys.. relax..stop going to extremes.. never said the game was bad!! I also never said I wanted forced grouping. No need to run to its defense..lol
I could debate game mechanics and how it might generate certain human tendencies.. not sure I want to bother with that debate. Ok maybe a little.. your right in the sence that anyone could make the game more social for them(and I am not anti-social by the way) by going out of there way. One extreme is forced grouping, the other extreme is never having to group to play the game fully. Im sure ESO is not either extreme, although what I am hearing is it might be closer to the latter. Theres nothing wrong with encouraging social behaviour in an mmo, its the point of it isnt it?
I do appreciate the opinions.. although I will make up my own mind whether I want to play the game. This post was only an inquiry to help me determine the nature of the game. Thanks for the help!
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game gets really repeative. nothing but doing quests. crafting feels pointless becouse u get blue gear from dungeons and some times in solo.
Tryed pvp...just horrible. 10 vs 30 battles. hardly can call it pvp, u get killed in 1-3 sec.
Just gonna play Far cry 4 and do my own maps etc. will play TESO if its turned B2P or F2P.
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Leveling is mostly a solo game other then the small breaks for dungeon runs and PvP. Questing phasing is by far the worst handled of any MMO I have played. Once you break out of the leveling game its a lot more teaming but unlike most MMOs where solo content is the lower % (even then you can team most solo content in other MMOs not in ESO) it seems to stay a solid 50% 50%. Its why my wife and I quit. We were constantly forced to play solo even when on the same step of a quest. Trying to gets friends to join you questing was not something we could get to work.
TB no game is going to please the new generation gamer because it's constantly changing, gone are the old days of grouping to quest and its not comming back, it was forced out with WoW because of the complaints about having to wait to long to get it done, and if you don't think game designers don't look at other game forums your in for a surprise, I've been playing MMOs since the muds and beta tested almost everything or played it and still alot of games left me lacking or thinking if only they would do this! matter of fact my group of friends and I have this discussion almost every week! But ive come to realize that its a game and its the vision of SOMEONE else and that in order for things to change you have to give it time and feed back instead of game hopping and never being satisfied with nothing.
Well judging by your level I would say that is a big reason why you are getting smoked like a cheap cigar in PVP. The other part is probably you don't know how to read the flow of battle yet. Might sound corny but in PVP games, specially with mass PVP, you have to gain a sense of "awareness" so to speak. In other words, know when to run as well as when and where to attack and also accept that you will probably get hit by a bigger force who is better at those things than you. These types of PVP games take repetition to learn the map and speed of combat. If you already know this stuff then by all means disregard. As far as the crafting goes, I believe it serves as an alternative to those who don't want to do dungeons or for something to sell because in MMOs there are always people who are impatient with finding/crafting their own gear and would rather just buy it. I also hear that the best gear in game can be crafted though not sure.
Not trying to talk you out of your decision, but just giving you some perspective.
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IIIIII dislike questing.
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Here you go man 1-50 in about 40 hours. After you are done, you will want to go back and do the main story quest, collect skyshards and maybe do some of the zone main quest lines if you still need skill points. On my main all I have is about 165 skill points. If I'm not mistaken that's about half there is. On that toon I only complete maybe 1 or 2 zone quests. You get skill points for Alliance War ranks aswell.
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