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Steam: The only place where you get banned for telling the truth
Razeekster
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So, I warned players before buying Xyson that they should probably know that this game has been out for a number of years already, and even had a Kickstarter to continue their development. I saw their move to go to Early Access on Steam as a money grab in all honesty, but here is my reply to someone telling them how they had been on Kickstarter, and I'm being told I was banned permanently for "posting false information."
And here is a picture where Xyson itself announces it's own Kickstarter:
If nothing else, Steam's Early Access program has given the people a look at how quite a lot of developers lack any moral compass when it comes to getting their game an influx of cash (look up other Early Access games, and you can see how developers work reviews so a large percentage of negative reviews are flagged, even though they are legitimate reviews and usually have more up-votes and other people's agreement than the positive reviews, and at how they delete any negative posts on their game's forums, no matter how slight, even giving out permanent bans to the people who post them). It's rather sad and has made my disdain for the Early Access program only grow.
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I am not really familiar with Steam community, I still use the forums haha.
Banned by whom and from where?
Valve and ALL Steam community pages or just for that particular game?
Problem its not steam itself
But Xsyon dev(yea i buy this crap and get trap in he lies)
but here its warning DONT BUY XSYON
First all because are release few years ago , no early start
Second so many promises and never finished over years
Just from the Xyson forum by a Xyson dev. Sorry, the title may be misleading now that I think about it (I just naturally assumed people would know what I meant, since this sort of thing isn't very uncommon with Early Access games).
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Premium MMORPGs do not feature built-in cheating via cash for gold pay 2 win. PLAY to win or don't play.
But... Xsyon: Prelude wasn't funded by Kickstarter. If you're referring to Xyson: Apocalypse, it failed to reach it's goal by.. well.. over 96% heh.
I understand it's the same company, same IP, you can argue it's the same game, same deal etc, and that's fine, but even in that event you're mistaken. Saying something "was funded by Kickstarter", when the funding was unsuccessful and no pledges collected, is a mistruth. I'm not defending the game, I don't like the game, I don't play the game, but in this event, you did indeed convey false info.
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/382040989/xsyon-apocalypse/
That does explain things, and as he was banned for posting misinformation, in this case, about the whole kickstarter thing, then it does kind of put things back into the correct perspective. Having said that, a permaban for that single statement, which in all probability was the result of a genuine mistake on the OP's part, does seem excessive, particularly as they seem to be still in ignorance of the true situation.
Personally, i think all early access games are just not worth the headache and won't touch with a ten foot pole.
I don't know why people actually needed to be warned. If they buy into pretty much an unfinished product, that is their problem, not mine.
Well, if you read their forums, people (rightfully) arguing against subscription for a game still sheltering itself under the guise of early access after 4 (5?) years, (you know I'm really against all this but I won't repeat it for the sake of on-topic discussion), and others saying, "just don't buy it", the devs are probably in damage control mode, at wits end. Good. It's time for that game's devs, as my dad used to say, to "shit or get off the pot" (deliver or quit playing around), gather some self respect and call the game released. This money grubbing under disclaimers is absolute horse manure.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
To be fair, I've read comments on Steam calling some game makers (Capcom comes to mind) a lot worse than "scammers".
There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.
-- Herman Melville
except in theory Xsyon not unfinished product and are release in 2011
and try scam people in kickstart / early acess
Sure, so have I. Developers are individuals too with different tolerance levels for abuse. Insult at your own risk and don't whine if they snap back at you.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
So, not really anything to do with Steam then, if it was the Xyson forum and you were banned by a Xyson dev. Maybe a change to the thread title is merited?
The OP must be new to the MMO world because people have been getting banned left and right giving their opinions going all the way back to the early 2000s when games finally received their own forums on the game companies websites. This includes the more accurately compared Store websites like Gamestop (reply negatively to a review several times and see what happens), and game sites, like this one...you can get banned for sneezing in a brown-nosing thread.
Also, your pissy rant was just that, a pissy rant. Everyone calls their opinion the truth, doesn't make it so. Try being less pissy and just give an opinion.
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http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
Yeah, I just knew that they had a Kickstarter. I assumed it was successful. Surprise to me, guess people are smarter than I give them credit for.
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I had a entire thread on who's been banned and why did you get the boot.
I told everyone Steam was a monopoly when I found out they took sole possession of Skyrim for PC. Monopoly is synonymous with demonic overlord for you subservient brain tards who grow money and can't give it away fast enough to said overlords.
Thanks for the explanation
I bought this game a few years ago and found it to lack what they said it would and i emailed the derv team and complained that they had miss sold it and requested a full refund and had to threaten them with legal action and they finally refunded my money. I followed up with a few other emails telling them they would have issues in the future and as it appears this is the case now on steam.
Steam are very nasty corporate company based on profit and hide behind their T&C's all the time and I have stopped buying from them as I tried to get a refund from some German space game who's name I will not mention as to this day it's still a pile of S---.
Until someone from government get a grip of steam the consumer will have no rights of protection and the only way to stop that is to stop supporting it full stop then they will sit up and listen. In my opinion Steam is an utter and complete scan and should be closed down.
But due to the traffic it has there is little or no chance of this happening and perma bans will stay in place unless you use legal action to get ban's removed in a court of law you cannot and will not win. I wish you luck OP.
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