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Crown Store LIVE on PTS - Pics and video!
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Video here (not me).
http://deltiasgaming.com/2015/02/02/elder-scrolls-online-crown-store/
He shows the costumes and stuff around 15 mins.
Bundles
Consumables
Costumes
Mounts
Pets
And that's it 
If I'm thinking about buying a couple costumes (buys nothing), they are gonna make a ton of money off this stuff.
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Nice and well done. Exactly how a shop should be tbh.
The only things which makes me angry; Looking at it now and estimating how much time they needed to build this makes me thinking how long do they knew they will went B2P and not sharing any info about that. That......man....i cant get over it (right now) and makes me still very pissed. Even that i think it is a good move at all, it still has the taste of "trickery" on it. But then, it is as the industry is right now. Let's just hope that many companies look at this and learn.
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A shop that dont make you buy stuff per character? awesome!
A shop that has clearly been in the making for some time, while they were championing subscription? gfo please!
Brilliant if true, more like a subscription encouraged method. It will just make more sense.
Of course it was the plan all along, everyone knew that.
That being said, it looks like the main focus is going to be DLC at least at making a profit. Subs look like the initial main focus. Subbing will buy all that stuff and more. While buying a sub is ideal for them as well that doesnt look like a long term solution because eventually (with such a limited amount of cas shop items) people are going to have hoards of cash store credits. Most than enough to stop subbing and then just buy every DLC ZOS releases.
So they have a window of time to improve the store to include some things that arent just account wide one offs.
Housing is the most obvious. But everything we hear is housing is along way away and not in the plans. But from a cash shop stand point it should be a number one priority. Look n further than Rift and the money machine it has with housing items.
Sub for a year you get 18K crowns. That looks like more than enough to buy every item in the store, and have some left over. As a sub you also get access to DLC (so no need to buy). There is also going to be a promotional price for a 12 month sub. I suspect 99.99 but it could be 119.99. But for 120 bucks youre going to be able to buy everything in the store and more than likely have enough left over for a DLC also.(if you unsub).
Basically this looks way too player friendly at this point. Unless they are really focusing on fans who will sub anyway and these crown store items are just small perks. Good gesture not a sound business model. They can of course add more costumes, pets, mounts to the game but with the systems they have that can get over the top. even if theyre 'free' for subscribers.
Its a balancing act they want to give people a reason to do any and all options based on the customers thought process. Subbing long term (with a greatly reduced price) is the optimal option for most I suspect. That kills a couple birds, it gives them (ZoS)money up front and it gives the players all the new bling in the store. It also buys ZOS some time to add to the store, but ironically once everyone owns everything in it they will be clamoring for more sooner than later.
I understand it is a small version of the store and might not even represent everything it will have when it officially launches. I hope that is the case because they need about 10 times as many things in it now as they have. But the most important thing is it is obviously not pay to win and so vanilla it doesnt really even look overly profitable Which like I said might be their goal. They might just be focusing on maintaining subs.
On the costumes in game now you can hide helm. I figure you should be able to on these too. I remember the guy in the video saying something about "hide helm" was he not able to do it?
They didn't even bother to make the shop lore-friendly..
It's a matter of time to make a paid portable global AH now.
"Lore-Friendly". How so? Because explorers and guys killing everything in sight couldnt just start wearing armor of other races they killed? Or maybe ride a mount they took from someone they just killed?
There is lore and then there is implied logical lore. If my mount is dead and I am on foot and I am Imperial and I kill a whatever, and he doesnt ride a horse. You think I will NOT ride whatever mount he has? Hell an Imperial (according to the lore) would figure they have the right to kill the guy JUST to take his mount. Most might just commandeer it, but some might not bother asking. Or does the lore assume mounts are imprinted to know their enemies also and wont let you ride them?
Lore losers are basically the guys who are bitter about a games perceived shortcomings but are based on a totally illogical rationale.
The Imperial Edition Upgrade is still at the ESO store for $20. The same bundle in the crown store is 2100 crowns.
That should give you an idea that they will be somewhere around a penny a crown plus or minus depending on how many you buy. So it looks like the sub will get you roughly $15 worth of crowns + the other 10% benefits and the use of all DLCs (when there are some) without buying them.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
yeah looks like they tipped their hand a little on prices. I suspect most DLCs will be the 19.99 variety therefore they will more than likely be 2100 crowns. Of course they might not offer them at all for cash and the price might be alittle higher.
IMO they have to do something to make more money. I know console will help a lot but longevity the store just doesnt have it. Because right now no one has anything and thus subs wil get enough crowns to buy everything (about 5K left over) if you sub a year. 5K crowns left will buy two DLCS (if our guesses are close) So that means for a yearly sub (100-120 bucks) youre getting just about everythign they will release in a year.
Obviously guesses along with estimates along with suppositions but we can easily get some educated guessing going and be fairly close no matter what....
3-4 DLCs a year** (educated guess)
DLC costs 1000 to 3500 crowns per** (educated guess, IF they have tiered DLCs)
18K crowns per year as a sub ## (FACT)
$100-$180 annual sub * ($180 fact; lower price to be determined)
Bottom line is we know for sure what a sub for a year will get us in crowns, we also know (according to PTS prices) what items will cost. So those are known. We can also guess at DLC prices. They have quite a few ready for release and I suspect those will also be available when the transition takes place. Maybe 3 or 4 of them. Because if not then there is no reason to subscribe ATM unless you want to (which means current NON subscribers wont) or want to fulfill your 12 month never stopped subbing perk. I know I wont sub unless the price for the 12 month promo is ridiculously small (99 bucks) because then your basically buying 18k crowns for 100 dollars; or they release at least one DLC.
Non fans and people who quit are going to need some incentives, and more than they see now to come back to even play let alone spend money on it.
I would like to add that we are not even sure f these are prices are going to be final? for all we know prices can rise in cash shop. As of now the amount of crown they gives for a monthly sub seems too generous.
Perhaps I am mistaken then. Can anyone on Test confirm or deny?
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
If you think for a second that a major AAA subscription-based MMO even gets funding let alone gets made without a solid and planned-out B2P or F2P fall-back plan you are living in your own little fantasy world already.
yeah theirs was consoles. Nothing said they HAD to make PC version B2P, they just didnt want the backlash. People already think they used PC players as beta testers. Could be true. I didnt buy the game at release. But as of right now its a good game, 1.6 makes it better, the price (for now) is right. So no one has any excuse whatsoever to get into this game for cheap and to be able to play it for cheap going forward.
People can try and spin it to make it a negative all they want. A lot of people like myself knew it would happen and we took advantage of every perk we could get. I bought the game for the 19.89 or whatever it was special at Steam a few weeks ago. I also bought up a bunch of 60 day time cards ranging from 16.80 something to 18 80 something. They are still available for 20.80 something which as far as we currently know is cheaper than a sub package, although I suspect there will be a 12 month prom o option for no more than 119.99 and more than likely 99.99. But really a sub at this point is simply buying cash store crowns, because most people dont care about the perks it gives.
I'm actually not turned off by the crown shop for 2 reasons. It's all cosmetics and quality of life stuff that gives no advantage, and the crown shop isn't promoted in the game, it's only a simply crown icon that isn't flashing, golden, or blows up every 2 minutes yelling at you to buy something like just about every other B2P/F2P game.
I always have to tell people when it comes to lore in any TES, the elder scrolls actually make it possible for just about anything to happen...They could put in flying hover cars, lightsabres, and ridable T-Rex mounts, and it'd still be lore friendly...the Elder Scrolls made it happen
Fixed it for you.
The general opinion is that the bonuses are minor - otherwise you would be in a p2w scenario. And currently we have no news of any DLC. So a subscription will be equivalent to spending $15 a month in a cash shop.
Yes, you can definitely hide the head slot of costumes. It's automatic if you have that option toggled in the settings menu.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED