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General: NCSoft & Nexon Bicker Over Management Styles

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

In 2012, Nexon purchased a block of stocks in NCSoft and became the largest shareholder. Pledging at the time not to interfere with NCSoft's management, Nexon has since rescinded that statement and has inserted itself, or tried to, in the day-to-day affairs of NCS.

Calling Nexon's style vastly different from its own, NCSoft is keeping track of outstanding stock purchases and calling on Nexon to back off its stance as injurious to shareholders and stock prices as well as its ability to compete.

We should learn more when each company's financial statements are released later this month. We'll  keep you posted.

Source: MMOCulture

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  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    Ugg, Nexon is a virus that is apparently spreading. 
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    The nature of business can be nasty at times. If NCsoft does not watch their stock closer they could lose their business all together. 
  • DracogeekDracogeek Member UncommonPosts: 31
    I would say this is more of a case of a virus infecting cancer.
  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803

    I know the hate for NC is big but .. what if  Nexon was pulling the strings?

    Not even I want to imagine that mess.

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  • LudwikLudwik Member UncommonPosts: 407
    A virus infecting cancer...

    Good analogy!
  • SquishydewSquishydew Member UncommonPosts: 1,107
    Ugh... I really don't nexon to have anymore control over anything.. They're awful.
  • bobfishbobfish Member UncommonPosts: 1,679
    Nexon are probably suggesting that Wildstar shouldn't be a subscription game, but free to play or buy to play :)
  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751
    What games are you guys still playing that EITHER of these two have an investment in?  Because I gotta tell you... their games are pretty much throw away anymore.
  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519
    Originally posted by Ikeda
    What games are you guys still playing that EITHER of these two have an investment in?  Because I gotta tell you... their games are pretty much throw away anymore.

    Agreed,  i haven't played one of their games in a long long time now.  And I don't see that changing in the future either.

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  • ShadowVlicanShadowVlican Member UncommonPosts: 158
    Nexus should just fuck off
  • ManestreamManestream Member UncommonPosts: 941

    both were bad, not played either of their stuff for a couple of yrs at least, they were both out to frisk teh player base out of as much as possible, as quickly as possible, guess you can say if you did not use teh cash shops in their games every week you would soon fall behind (and also not be able to do content). this worked out 3 or 4 times more costly than a monthly sub ever would have been.

    Thus for 2yrs (maybe longer) i have stayed well clear of them and their so called F2P bullshit.

    So the Virus infecting Cancer is probably well placed analogy

     
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    Originally posted by Ikeda
    What games are you guys still playing that EITHER of these two have an investment in?  Because I gotta tell you... their games are pretty much throw away anymore.

    Guild Wars 2. And its the only game im worried about if Nexon tries to pull something nasty with NCSoft

    EDIT: and Blade and Soul even though i am slightly losing interest since the russian version was just another generic quest grindfest.





  • HandBananaBustaHandBananaBusta Member Posts: 5
        I guess you guys are forgetting the fact Nc soft put out Guild wars and its xpacks that we people still play to this day. No cash shop. Or Guild Wars 2 where the cash shop is for looks nothing more. (The xp boosts you can buy you can get them free, or even get free gems traded from in game gold). Lets not forget COH COV. City of Heros and City of Villains. Wildstar, Lineage III.  Seems like to me you guys are just trolls that wanna to bash someone for no reason. Pretty sure none of you guys played Nc Soft games if you think they have cash shops. Its Nexon that does all that bull shit and now they want to take control over a giant in the MMO world because their games suck. 
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,939
    Originally posted by HandBananaBusta
        I guess you guys are forgetting the fact Nc soft put out Guild wars and its xpacks that we people still play to this day. No cash shop. Or Guild Wars 2 where the cash shop is for looks nothing more. (The xp boosts you can buy you can get them free, or even get free gems traded from in game gold). Lets not forget COH COV. City of Heros and City of Villains. Wildstar, Lineage III.  Seems like to me you guys are just trolls that wanna to bash someone for no reason. Pretty sure none of you guys played Nc Soft games if you think they have cash shops. Its Nexon that does all that bull shit and now they want to take control over a giant in the MMO world because their games suck. 

    But there is a cash shop in Lineage II and Aion. There is no Lineage III yet though they do have Lineage Eternal.

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  • aesperusaesperus Member UncommonPosts: 5,135

    And this is why you watch your stocks closely, and make sure that no matter the circumstances you hold the majority of shares (if you decide to go that route).

    As much hate as NC Soft generally gets from players, I actually find them to be more reasonable than most publishers currently. It is disturbing indeed to think what would happen if Nexon actually manages to get the upper hand and starts turning NC Soft into a much greedier company.

    I'm actually surprised Nexon has as much influence within NCSoft as it currently does. The conflict of interest seems fairly obvious from the outside. I have to wonder if they'd go as far as to jeopardize their own ROI to punish NCSoft's operating capital, being as they are in many ways competitors.

  • HandBananaBustaHandBananaBusta Member Posts: 5

    You are right but aion didn't start as a cash shop and when it went free to play i stopped playing so I can't speak on that. But as far as Guild wars 2 how does the cash shop seem bad? Its all about looks. And at the end of the day when you look at it, if you play the game and get gold you trade gold for gems which makes the game free still. I have 3 lvl 80's and have been off and on for while now. So where is the grind at? It is very easy to lvl in that game. You can hit max lvl in a day i f you want to.

    I agree Nexon buying in NCS was bad on NCS part. 

  • rockin_uforockin_ufo Member UncommonPosts: 378
    Originally posted by MisterZebub
    Originally posted by HandBananaBusta
        I guess you guys are forgetting the fact Nc soft put out Guild wars and its xpacks that we people still play to this day. No cash shop. Or Guild Wars 2 where the cash shop is for looks nothing more. (The xp boosts you can buy you can get them free, or even get free gems traded from in game gold). Lets not forget COH COV. City of Heros and City of Villains. Wildstar, Lineage III.  Seems like to me you guys are just trolls that wanna to bash someone for no reason. Pretty sure none of you guys played Nc Soft games if you think they have cash shops. Its Nexon that does all that bull shit and now they want to take control over a giant in the MMO world because their games suck. 

    Sorry but I don't hold the same high opinion of NCsoft AreanaNet and GW2 as you do. Frankly I think GW2 is one big boring ass grindy snoozefest mainly due to Crystin Cox's hand in the cash shop design. You know Crystin Cox the former Nexon employee. I feel due to this guys meddling GW2 was a much lesser game than it could have been and now if Nexon is going to start flexing their muscles expect GW2 and every other NCSoft published game to only get that much worse.

    I've been on this boat for years. In 2012 a pretty big shift in the development came in GW2 also. 

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  • VorthanionVorthanion Member RarePosts: 2,749
    Originally posted by HandBananaBusta
        I guess you guys are forgetting the fact Nc soft put out Guild wars and its xpacks that we people still play to this day. No cash shop. Or Guild Wars 2 where the cash shop is for looks nothing more. (The xp boosts you can buy you can get them free, or even get free gems traded from in game gold). Lets not forget COH COV. City of Heros and City of Villains. Wildstar, Lineage III.  Seems like to me you guys are just trolls that wanna to bash someone for no reason. Pretty sure none of you guys played Nc Soft games if you think they have cash shops. Its Nexon that does all that bull shit and now they want to take control over a giant in the MMO world because their games suck. 

    I believe that is because ArenaNet wouldn't do it any other way, no matter who had the purse strings or distributed their games.  The rest of NCSoft's online games are certainly not as friendly.

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  • ArakaneArakane Member UncommonPosts: 204
    Originally posted by Dracogeek
    I would say this is more of a case of a virus infecting cancer.
    so very,very true, and well said.

     

  • ArakaneArakane Member UncommonPosts: 204
    Originally posted by HandBananaBusta
        I guess you guys are forgetting the fact Nc soft put out Guild wars and its xpacks that we people still play to this day. No cash shop. Or Guild Wars 2 where the cash shop is for looks nothing more. (The xp boosts you can buy you can get them free, or even get free gems traded from in game gold). Lets not forget COH COV. City of Heros and City of Villains. Wildstar, Lineage III.  Seems like to me you guys are just trolls that wanna to bash someone for no reason. Pretty sure none of you guys played Nc Soft games if you think they have cash shops. Its Nexon that does all that bull shit and now they want to take control over a giant in the MMO world because their games suck. 
     if nexon made them bring coh/cov back online, I would love them forever :)
     
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  • PemminPemmin Member UncommonPosts: 623
    Originally posted by HandBananaBusta

    You are right but aion didn't start as a cash shop and when it went free to play i stopped playing so I can't speak on that. But as far as Guild wars 2 how does the cash shop seem bad? Its all about looks. And at the end of the day when you look at it, if you play the game and get gold you trade gold for gems which makes the game free still. I have 3 lvl 80's and have been off and on for while now. So where is the grind at? It is very easy to lvl in that game. You can hit max lvl in a day i f you want to.

    I agree Nexon buying in NCS was bad on NCS part. 

    gems for gold coupled with the fact that they nerfed drop rates pretty early on, super inflates the price of high end items on the tp. simultaneously lack of available farming due to said low drop rates resulted in pigeonholing people in to specific gear make ups in order grind dungeons. The game is based around horizontal progression and cosmetics, so the akward gap in prices does make for a stupid long grind if you aren't willing to open your wallet. that and lotto boxes are lotto boxes(its a way to get around gambling laws that just doesn't sit well with me)

    that being said NC softs business model is pretty moderate(especially for an eastern publisher) and they tend to limit themselves for pay for convenence and cosmetics. some of their decision making like closing CoH even though it was making 2mil a Quarter, rushing out wildstar and not regionalizing  BnS to the west seem kinda bad thou.

    while nexon seems to be shit all around.

  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    Originally posted by Dracogeek
    I would say this is more of a case of a virus infecting cancer.

    Heheheh could not agree more..

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  • GoldenArrowGoldenArrow Member UncommonPosts: 1,186

    Don't really have much respect for these companies.

    Nexon bringing the absolute worst products from KR to NA/EU and NCSoft not being able to realize the potential of BnS year or two ago and instead insisting on supporting Wildstar.

    If I had to pick I'd go with NCSoft due to Guild Wars 2 and upcoming Linage Eternal simultaneous global release.

  • UnlocoUnloco Member UncommonPosts: 13
    This has to be in regards to wildstar still being sub based. The devs of that game are barely clinging on to that fantasy thinking drop 6 is going to bring people back. They COMPLETELY missed their mark and insist to keep it aimed in the same direction.
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