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Highly underrated title...
I really wonder whats up with those communities today. A few friends are playing archeage now for a few weeks and we are having a blast. Its the most fun MMO in a long time. Not just the higly polished graphics etc.... but the very complex crafting system (where you can actually skip leveling totally and just focus on crafting), or the awesome trading, housing system. Then you have the sea battles and pirates.... a pvp system not just between your faction... also politically influences with consequences and a full court system.
What not to love in this game? Well yeah sadly its F2P, but absolutely no game stopper at all. Labor points keep crafting interesting... the best endgame gear is very difficult to obtain - which I think is a good thing. Mounts, Diving, Farms... I can go on and on... but for us its one of the most polished and deep new mmo there ever. We are so happy that we didn't listen to all the hate here and just tried it ourselve 
Happy playing
Currently playing: Archeage
Waiting for: Black Desert
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Currently playing: Archeage
Waiting for: Black Desert
It sounds like you haven't made max level yet or only just have. Either way the downside to AA will hit you eventually, and sadly it hits very hard. We were all like you trust me. Playing AA I couldn't believe how great it was, how beautiful it looked and how different it felt from common MMO's.
Then suddenly it hits you like a runaway truck. The dreaded labor point system and the endless, unforgiving RNG.
Enjoy it while you can tho, you will have a blast until endgame crafting kicks in. Then you will understand P2W.
/facepalm
There is nothing interesting about artificial barrier that, limits your game play. Crafting wise, it basically prevents any kind of sensible game economy.
PVP combat mechanics are about who stunlock the other guy first.
World PVP requires 500 lowbie kills to make PVP "meaningful".
Trade pack runs..? Seriously...
etc.
Up to each own, but ArcheAge is a typical asian shallow design game and those simply don't do well in west...
OP don't let infect your mindset by the haters.
You have to deal with the insta gimme western generation that on top of that isn't able to think things through and has a very selfish way of thinking.
"MY labourpool is too small waaah wahaaah QQ" instead to SOCIALIZE IN A MMORPG and make friends who help each other overcome LP shortcomings or even if they dont want to do that, PLAN ahead and keep FOCUS on what they want.
(Maybe its too much for western socialized people to ask for and develope basic qualities of modern people like having a plan and focus on it with determination.)
"waah waah QQ, RNG is baaad, i waaaaant maxed geeear NAW" instead of think that through and understand without RNG top gear would loose any value and RNG being fair because it doesnt favourize ANY precondition (level, xp, money, questing and whatever ALL HAVE THE SAME RANDOM CHANCE)
OP, yes highly underated title, with the original veterabn MMORPG community of the golden age 1997 - 2005 it would be an even more fantastic experience. Now we have to live with the poor playerbase of todays MMORPG's.
Visit Auroria and stop talk nonsense.
preying for lowlvls in a questing area should require some effort before it becomes rewardable for the pvp predator.
Of course it would. They'd be too stunned by the shiny graphics and fancy animations compared to other MMOs of that era. :P
Unfortunately for AA, it actually has modern day competitors. With more being added all the time.
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When you add in the fact that Archeage also wasn't new, but just the third iteration of the game, following on from the original and the russian versions, which by the sound of it, also tanked badly, then its hard to see how the game could possibly be 'underrated' if anything, its the reverse, has the game been improved over the previous versions after all, all evidence suggests this is far from the case, this was always going to be a game that would struggle with a western audience who have plenty of alternatives available to them.
Its not the "third iteration".
In fact EU/NA publish is the "first version" (lower game patch version) with other regions having newer patch levels.
Thinking before posting, do you ever played or even informed yourself about the western release before , i have to wonder about that.
Good you googled up how the game works.
It is no nonsense on my end, just poor design of the game.
well, the first version didn't do all that well either, and the first version for the 'second time' also failed to gather all that many fans in Russia, so now we have the first version for the third time, aaaand.. its doing really well here
.. oh wait.. not it isnt. SURPRISE!
We figured out the truth after playing the game in most ways. It's flawed in ways many can't or should not accept.
The crafting seems good until you try and make any quality gear suitable for your level at max. Then is starts becoming a random number generator game (see gambling with horrible odds).
The housing system was messed up by hackers auto placing houses while not even being there. The PvP system was corrupted by people being able to duplicate items that provided them with a massive gear advantage over non-cheaters. The court benches were and probably still are being used for afk'ers to build labor points without being auto kicked.
Early on that is the feeling from most people. Over the course of the months since it was released all the problems I mentioned and alot more kept many honest people from enjoying the game to it's fullest. Also the cash shop was another let down since several of the things being sold in it were also random number generated and directly effected some of the biggest ways of making gold in the game.
Is there a great game underneath all the negatives? Absolutely. Just wish half those negatives didn't exist. Also the labor points are a bit light if all you want to do is mine or other activities since you run out and would have to get labor potions (which are for sale in the cash shop) to conitinue for the day.
I tried the game and got all my combat skillsets to maximum level. Got a clipper, small farm, large farm, house, cottage, 6 spot farm cart. My favorite activities included solo clipper trade runs to enemy ports and going invis and trying to get to the turn in guy before being spotted. Also treasure hunting was fun, gliding around, hunting for hidden farms, farming PvE mobs in Aroria for aroria armors both to wear and sell. Some dungeons were interesting. Just a shame really. They were really onto something
I still can't see the big problem...
I mean exploits, and cheats aside... many MMOs today are plagued by this in the beginning. At the moment it looks great, I haven't encountered one BOT or the typical gold spam shouts..., I also got a great large land plot, so all working fine. The beginning of a mmo is always very harsh..
Regarding the RNG, I don't see any problem here, I have to agree, that maybe western people don't realize what hard to earn equipment mean - they all want easy going. Thats maybe why so many are playing wow, there you get everything in your face - but it took me 3 months to abadone that game. Everything was worthless... There will never be a fair system to make equipment rare except with a RNG... may it be a very rare drop from a boss or the randomness of the crafting... making it very hard, makes it very valuable. And thats something I so miss in western games and I think is totally fine in archeage...
So yeah even though I am casual and I know I will most probably never reach the high end game equip... but still you can strive for it, its something to accomplish over the months/years to come - thats why you should enjoy the varies in the crafting system and try to get the most out of it - there is plenty more to do than just getting the best gear....
Surely if you just want to get to level 50 to pvp and kick everyone in the butt with uber leet gear, you may not like this game
Just my 2cents.
Currently playing: Archeage
Waiting for: Black Desert
It's clear you haven't played for very long... get back to us when you are 30 days in...
I had to laugh
It's not looking good on them if uninformed people laugh. On the contrary if uninformed people laugh they look like...
Don't want to get in to a discussion about numbers but i doubt any of you jokers have any valid officiall numbers.
You even demonstrated that you even don't know much about the game.
Those who tested and played early had to deal with incredible amounts of botting, spam, hacks, server instability, no land for houses, skyrockted prices and overtuned fixes that caused loss of houses, farms and patron status or perma-bans that took months to reverse. For some folks, it's too little, too late.
OP, you missed all the early junk so you are seeing the game with fresh eyes. I think it's great you are enjoying it and having a blast!
I was informed enough to recognize you were playing semantics and he called you out on it.
Learn to talk facts and not semantics or stay away if you dont have anything usefull to contribute.
Fact is, AA was released in Korea before EU/NA so Phry was indeed correct that it went through iterations. More precisely, it was localized for English speaking players.
Now, maybe you disliked the tone he used and/or the implication that AA failed. However, the game did exist (launched) a full year and a half before EU/NA got to play it.
AA:
Complete Questiine is boring (after 1st run through) and done in just under 4 hours times 6 toons over 2 days at Headstart and I'm done questing for...ever in AA?
RNG for crafting success regardless of skill? BUY AH components if you want better successes (clearly P2W)
Rare components were brought to AH boxes, suddenly not so rare (clearly P2W)
Crafting requires braving PVP guarded trade pack turn in spots OR the AH.
Weapon Tokens ONLY had in a single PVP zone.
Larger guilds clear advantage winners for keeps due to overall gold production capability to ward off bids. (Gold sellers win bigtime with this one)
Stun Lock is king so lots of the same archetypes running around in endgame.
Just short of 3 months...I quit and never returned.
There are positives but these nowhere near offset the negatives and the repetitive way one must play this game to produce gold. And did I mention labor points? Don't get me STARTED on Labor points!!!
First PC Game: Pool of Radiance July 10th, 1990. First MMO: Everquest April 23, 1999
wait, you did built your opinion based on this site here? lol.
i hope you learned something at least.
If you like AA, play it. That's been said here many times, and I think it's mostly the point. The only problem in this thread is coming here telling people who have tried it and find major fault that they are somehow wrong. Now you're mired in facts, like the game's various releases and general unpopularity, and you're not going to dig your way out of it, at least not with this crowd.
There are things to like about AA. If you can solely focus on the good, it can be a really fun time. I'm glad you found something you enjoy.