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/facepalm
Dat interpretation, people were saying that it wasn't a scam since they weren't forcing anyone to donate, I just said if they were, it would be called a robbery, not a possible scam.
Edited: Oh, I just noticed now that you answered my post inside my own quote, cool.
I wouldn’t bother making an MMORPG, because I don’t have the skills required for it, of course I could do like some people around there, that ask for donations in order to hire someone to do it for me! But we both know how well that will work out in the end…
Why? Oh true! I forget that people here start calling me a troll and a liar without even reading what people write! My first post, go read it, I won’t bother repeating myself to you.
Also, I’ll be honest with you, no matter how you feel like putting it, that curse “theory”, is just hilarious, I mean, we are obviously members of Illuminati! Anyone already noticed it.
yes, because since it's a free world, I’m free to entitle myself as a lawyer and make a profit from it.
Jeez, time to move out from lálá land mate.
I don't think we really want to start the MO comparisons...
Let's just agree that their method of funding is "unique" in how they have lost money every single quarter since the one they launched in including the one that just past. Not sure if it's 5 years like you said, but it's close.
I backed TOA reflexively because I am a sucker for the limited tier stuff. I will likely re-evaluate as it get's closer to the kickstarter end if they seem likely to fund (which at this point seems very unlikely).
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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Key word here is Justify.
Myobi has provided an excess of links, images and posts in order to back up their positions, yet ToA fans have only replied with "trolls" and "liers".
I'm really having a hard time accepting that ToA fans don't seem to realise that the burden of proof lies on the shoulders of ToA and not the opposition AND YET Myobi is the one providing the evidence here.
ToA fans' actions are the definition of a cult, not being able to see past their idealism or even consider other opinions. And you wonder why people don't take you seriously.
But apparently it seems like it's the people who are opposed to something that need to prove themselves and not the people who ask for monetary investements.
Myobi, I asked about the Kickstarter content, because I have already read what you said about the business practices and I am not suspicious by how they are attempting to make the game.
I don't need to talk anymore about the MMO Champion Thread because you guys aren't on trial in this thread. I was asking about the Kickstarter content because to me the Business practice stuff wasn't convincing. That's all.
Hi. We're right here. Not a cult. Support the game? Yes. Sorry you disagree.
I know you are here. That's why I replied.
I just can't fathom how you just dismiss anything you don't like and the amount of audacity with which you do so.
Oh don't take what I write personally. I was responding in general, it just happened to be your post to be quoted.
Looks promising. I wish forged chaos all the best. Seems like a lot of money left to be raised in only a short time.
For those who are trying to tear down ToA: I would not waste your energy. KS is not looking very likely to succeed:
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/forgedchaos/trials-of-ascension/
edit: I read that wrong. nevermind.
further edit: I'm bad at reading comprehension tonight. Also, did you like my astronaut humor?
This is something they don't want understand, even without MMO-Champ thread the result would be the same, in fact, it was in their first Kickstarter attempt. There is just so many things wrong about the idea itself and how they are "developing" it that I could write a bloody book about it…
Also for those feeling offended by the use of the term “cultist”, this is one of the reasons why people keep mentioning it: http://i.imgur.com/oFkUzJo.png
"There has been no news from FC themselves, no instruction on what fans should do/shouldn't do, no guidance on how to combat the negativity"
Sounds like a freaking holy war going on around here, jesus.
I really can't understand this premature KS comeback. Why did they set the goal at 80% of the previous KS when the game only looks slightly better, the KS presentation is still unimpressive (going from poor to mediocre; monotone to near-monotone), and the ideas still seem unconvincing (are you really going to sell me on "putting the RPG back into MMORPG?")
You know what they say folks-- If you keep doing what you're doing, you're gonna keep getting what you're getting.
""Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity? Insanity is doing the exact same fucking thing over and over again, expecting shit to change." - Vas
All I'll say about that video is that.... lacks on a good and solid demonstration of the gameplay, I would rather just watch 10 minutes of a random player playing the game than all those “epic” glimpses of gameplay flashing before my eyes with the majestic song and all that crap…
In fact, if there are players already testing the game, I was wondering if Forged Chaos would be okay with streaming a little of gameplay, just 5-10 minutes, we are all aware that the game is still pre-alpha, that bugs will show up, but that is pretty normal in any alpha ~
Hoping the do stream a little, Myobi, although there are a few of these videos already on the internet including the one they streamed live on Ten Ton Hammer, but I want to see the further improvements myself.
No need to question if there "if there are" testers in the game at this point - there are. I was offered a few testing dates myself but couldn't attend for a few reasons.
How do you force someone on the internet to give you money?!
my main issues with the game and why i think it wont hit kickstarter. (i already backed the game and hope it does succeed however)
1. obviously the lack of experience of the development team
2. lack of publicity for the game.
3. slow progress and little has been shown.
4. hefty kickstarter goal and if it doesnt hit 600k then they got nothing and the money is returned.
5. many recent kickstarters have either failed to materialize or failed to deliver what was promised.
6. no well known license or world to draw from.
7. niche mmo with full pvp
8. 3 races to choose from that are vastly different in a full pvp game means ridiculous balancing issues.
9. most of the game is still whats planned and not what we have currently.
10. mediocre graphics at best.
what i expect FC to do..
cancel the kickstarter in about 2 weeks then launch the goals on thier website were people can pay to play in the alpha similar to what LIF did. essentially using kickstarter as a means of gaining interest in the game, then offering a method of payment that has no goal or timetable.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
This is one of the red flags, raised by ToA, for me. Any game, however tight the NDA will have leaks.
And the lack of player content from the testing/alpha/pre-alpha whatever is profound. Not even screenshots.
Why must people go big or go home with these kickstarters? If they had asked for a smaller amount then later had another kickstarter for the remainder of the money when they had more gameplay to show I'm sure it would have worked out better.
Waiting for:
The Repopulation
Albion Online
Was about to donate when I read up on the Full loot PvP aspect of the game and quickly decided not to bother. I hate PvP in any MMO but I also know it is generally a part of it, but to risk losing you own stuff to asshat greifers is going to shy everybody I know away from this game.
I want an MMORPG where is is only PvE elements and PvP being only is designated areas such as arenas. I want to be able to go around and PvE without wondering if some retard high level character is going to run up, kill me and take my gear. Hell, Lineage 2 has real open world PvP but you don't risk losing you shit unless you have karma built up; and if you do then you deserve to lose your stuff for being a PK'r.
Looked good but going to pass on this one.
You forgot the step where they blame the lack of exposure and blame that they didn't convey what they wanted to do properly.
TOA has been one big blame everyone else game by Brax and Co for a long time. They blamed the publishers wanting to have some say as to why they didn't get funded (reality is they probably never had a solid offer from a publisher), they blame people for not getting their vision, and they blame other mmorpgs for watering down the genre.
Dear TOA,
your product is NOT unique.
Your vision is going to be the exact same as every other "sandbox" mmorpg ever.
Even if you release it will be a grief fest with full pvp no matter how many restrictions you put or how your reputation system works.
Put YOUR money where your mouth is, commercial loans, personal loans, friends and family, investors. Stop depending on your dedicated fans to make the game.
Your kickstarter is a joke when it comes to repeating the SAME mistakes, your negativity in the industry is why no one is taking you seriously. You sit there and bash what everyone else is doing instead of promoting what your game is doing.
No one gives a shit that your game is hardcore, no one gives a shit that you don't do mini maps, no one gives a shit that you need food/water to survive. The only thing people give a shit about is WHAT you CAN do, not what you're forcing them to endure to DO that stuff.
None of which have/had player testers, like ToA claims to have.
Wouldn't you trust a player-made video over a dev.-made video to show both positives and negatives of a game?
I know I would.