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MMO where questing is fun
So I am playing ESO at the moment but the questing is abysmal. I would really like to have a morrowind type of experience where I get a quest and have to figure out where to go and what to do. I would like to shy away from killing 10 rats and gathering 15 herbs type of quests too. If ESO deleted the quest markers and had a way to figure out what to do through dialogue and journal entries, the game would be my favorite leveling experience of all time since I very much enjoy the combat system. Anything like this exist?
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Every game is going to have, at some point, variations of "kill x" for some quests/missions. Secret World has better variations of missions and better storyline. Some missions aren't "kill x of anything" but thinking puzzles.
Another game in which I found leveling more fun than others was Wildstar, because it has a number of logic puzzles, but it also has a gratuitous number of "kill x", especially when you get to the "STV type" planet, I forgot the name of it.
I was about to suggest The Secret World as well.
No others come to mind for me.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
Try a private WoW server, play classic non-boosted mode... refrain from using the internet to figure out the quests... and you will have exactly what you want. Totally unlike modern WoW, in every way.
Classic WoW also had a gigantic number of kill 10 rats -quests.
Questing generally takes a back seat to the social and massive multiplayer aspect of an MMO, if you want immersive quests then I recommend a single player RPG.
The Witcher 2
Skyrim
Oblivion
Morrowind
Daggerfall
Fallout: New Vegas
Planescape Torment
Neverwinter Nights 1 + 2 plus all expansions from GoG
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However it would just give you a "Northwest of here there are 10 Dick Wolves, please kill them cause they X my Y."
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The Secret World has the best quests in an mmo (imo).
Swtor has good questing 1-50
The first 20 levels of wildstar was great
90-100 in wow is very good
Tsw's investigation missions are also among the best
Try the druid quests... in which you had to find parts of an amulet in order to earn a new shapeshifter ability... had to swim out into nowhere, nearly drown, or did drown, in order to get the item. No big arrow pointing you to it. Swim in the wrong direction... die. Dive down in the wrong spot... die. Oh then there was the ship surrounded by and full of Merlocs that you had to get past without dying to get another piece. These quests are more than your run of the mill gather 10 rats... and even those wanted you to kill specific rats... and they were never the ones nearby. The questing in vanilla will provide him with the challenge he seeks.
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They don't really. There is no need to tell us to grind mobs in forms of quests.
A quest should be something long and epic, you know the whole thing "throw down the one ring in mount Doom" or something like that. 100 long and fun quests beat 1000 crappy general FEDEX and rat killing quests any day.
To me it just sounds like the devs like to brag how many quests their game have but quality is actually more important than quantity.
Personally do I think that a good themepark MMO would be a mix between good long quests and dynamic events for the killing spree thing. The boring stuff actually gets more fun if instead of walking over to kill 10 outlaws they suddenly attack you and the people (and npcs) around you. Unlike a standard quest that keeps at least me somewhat on edge.
Long and epic quests, like EQ2s heritage quests, on the other hand can't be presented that way but here we have pretty hard and long quests with many steps and good rewards.
That is why I feel mixing those systems would be the best of both worlds.
ESO's good usage of phasing also helps with making them feel more epic.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
Use addon.
http://www.esoui.com/
Get a time machine and go back to the pre-WoW era.
That's the only way.
Or buy TSW and pretend it's an MMO, even though its basically a singleplayer game.
DDO must be on this list. It has some good questing fun -- more so if you have a group you enjoy playing with that doesn't just race through the quests; Try to do them without looking up the puzzles even better.
Secret world's are not bad either.
Play Everquest and don't look anything up on fan sites.
Still provides what the OP is looking for after 15 years.
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