Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

So whats the next new big thing?

time007time007 Member UncommonPosts: 1,062
haven't been keeping up the past 8 months in gaming, due to being jaded over countless games (don't get me started on the list heheh)  I won't say things like sandbox, themepark, big name, AAA etc as they become divisive and bring out the devils advocates, trolls etc.  not looking for an argument over definitions, but what is the next big thing coming out next?  Everquest Next? Camelot Unchained?  Last I checked those were over a year away so was wondering if there was anything decent bigname/AAA coming out soon?

IMPORTANT:  Please keep all replies to my posts about GAMING.  Please no negative or backhanded comments directed at me personally.  If you are going to post a reply that includes how you feel about me, please don't bother replying & just ignore my post instead.  I'm on this forum to talk about GAMING.  Thank you.
«1

Comments

  • Charlie.CheswickCharlie.Cheswick Member UncommonPosts: 469
    I would say that CU is what the peeps are into these days. That & blumpkins.
    -Chuckles
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936

    I don't think there is anything coming out soon.

    Skyforge will be having betas soon though that game is going to be hit or miss for some people.

    Black Desert seems to get a lot of interest though that won't be here soon.

    Camelot Unchained is about to hit Alpha testing.

    Pantheon chugs along. I hope they can finish it.

    Shroud of the Avatar also "chugs along" in development.

    Wow, there really isn't a lot is there? There must be more, I'm just forgetting it.

    Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb." 

    Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w


    Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547

    Try the "Special Edition." 'Cause it's "Special." https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64878/?tab=description

    Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo 
  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    Honestly? None of them. I don't trust that any of them are going to deliver what they claim to. Too much being lied to by the game companies. Too many disappointments. I have been waiting to be impressed. Several of them have managed to impress me for the first hour, the first week, the first month, only two managed to keep my attention for two years (EQ2 and SWTOR), and only one managed six years (EQ2). I've been trying to find my new MMO home for several years now. I don't see it happening any time soon. 
  • time007time007 Member UncommonPosts: 1,062
    Originally posted by Moirae
    Honestly? None of them. I don't trust that any of them are going to deliver what they claim to. Too much being lied to by the game companies. Too many disappointments. I have been waiting to be impressed. Several of them have managed to impress me for the first hour, the first week, the first month, only two managed to keep my attention for two years (EQ2 and SWTOR), and only one managed six years (EQ2). I've been trying to find my new MMO home for several years now. I don't see it happening any time soon. 

    yeah im the same story as you, but with DaoC as my long term mmo that I played (as opposed to you being EQ2)

    Over the years I've played for the first 1-6 months for many of the big AAA MMO's that came out. some I came back to off and on but just to be bored again.    I also tried lots of the smaller budget ones over the years too.  I've been taking a pounding the last 6-8 years going on the roller coaster / hype train for every big name mmo that's come out since 2008 roughly. 

    Now for pure entertainment purposes I wanna know what the next big bust is going to be just so I can follow it heheh from a different viewpoint, not one of optimism but like from a guy wanting to watch the Hindenburg in all its glory. 

    though was hoping there was something coming out soon, but I guess not.  I think the last big MMO that came out was ESO? correct? that was about the time I gave up on keeping up to date with upcoming MMO news.   

    I remember now, it was Arche Age that came out most recently

      

    IMPORTANT:  Please keep all replies to my posts about GAMING.  Please no negative or backhanded comments directed at me personally.  If you are going to post a reply that includes how you feel about me, please don't bother replying & just ignore my post instead.  I'm on this forum to talk about GAMING.  Thank you.
  • H.A.M.AH.A.M.A Member UncommonPosts: 29
    I'm just waiting for Witcher 3, even though it's not an mmo. 
  • aesperusaesperus Member UncommonPosts: 5,135
    Originally posted by time007
    haven't been keeping up the past 8 months in gaming, due to being jaded over countless games (don't get me started on the list heheh)  I won't say things like sandbox, themepark, big name, AAA etc as they become divisive and bring out the devils advocates, trolls etc.  not looking for an argument over definitions, but what is the next big thing coming out next?  Everquest Next? Camelot Unchained?  Last I checked those were over a year away so was wondering if there was anything decent bigname/AAA coming out soon?

    It really depends on what you're looking for.

    There's a handful of smaller-budget (aka 'indie) MMOs coming out, most notably Albion, Crowfall, and CU. In addition to a few more sandboxy indie MMOs. Everquest Next, sadly, looks to have been gutted. It's not cancelled, but all signs point to Daybreak (a new studio that is the acquisition of SOE) cutting as much production costs as possible without actually tanking the game. In otherwords, the fired a few hundred people; but left enough of the staff around that they could still release a shippable version of the game. Read: A version of EQN will probably be released, but it will be a shell of what the original vision entailed. They haven't actually said this, but we know about the layoffs, and the studio has publicly stated that EQN isn't cancelled. So, make of you will from those indicators.

    Aside from that, there is the GW2 expansion due out sometime later this year. It's surprisingly enough looking to be a good expansion, but I'm going to assume if you were interested in that you probably wouldn't have made this thread.

    If you're fine with more asian MMOs, Black Desert is also shaping up to be an impressive game. Somewhat similar to Archeage, but from what I've been hearing they aren't making the same mistakes, and are improving on most of what made that game appealing. Not to mention it's probably got the best graphics of any MMO to date. Currently though, there's not a ton we know about the game. it's in open beta in Korea, and some of us westerners have managed to get a KSSN to play; but nothing's translated. There will be an english port of the game, but that isn't due out for another couple years.

  • MookzenMookzen Member Posts: 18

     

    Crowfall for sure, check it out !  Though perhaps not as soon as we would like.

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916

    Afaik there are no western developers working on a new AAA MMO currently (that we know of), other than EQ:N. Development efforts seem to have shifted in the direction of various interpretations of MOBA's, which are easier to design and cheaper to build.

     

    Indie MMO projects are proliferating like weeds however, to fill this gap. Most of those offerings are not what I'd call AAA, and I suspect that the majority of them will most likely not meet with great success.

  • exile01exile01 Member RarePosts: 1,089
    The next big think is EOS  Echo of Souls (Ariagames)
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko

    Afaik there are no western developers working on a new AAA MMO currently (that we know of), other than EQ:N. Development efforts seem to have shifted in the direction of various interpretations of MOBA's, which are easier to design and cheaper to build.

     

    Indie MMO projects are proliferating like weeds however, to fill this gap. Most of those offerings are not what I'd call AAA, and I suspect that the majority of them will most likely not meet with great success.

    I'd be quite happy with a MMO that doesn't meet with great success but instead is successful and has great gameplay and an awesome community.

    To be honest I am still waiting for the MMO bubble to explode so that most of the studios will pull out of the MMO field and we can return to what made them great to begin with.

  • exile01exile01 Member RarePosts: 1,089
    Originally posted by Kefo
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko

    Afaik there are no western developers working on a new AAA MMO currently (that we know of), other than EQ:N. Development efforts seem to have shifted in the direction of various interpretations of MOBA's, which are easier to design and cheaper to build.

     

    Indie MMO projects are proliferating like weeds however, to fill this gap. Most of those offerings are not what I'd call AAA, and I suspect that the majority of them will most likely not meet with great success.

    I'd be quite happy with a MMO that doesn't meet with great success but instead is successful and has great gameplay and an awesome community.

    To be honest I am still waiting for the MMO bubble to explode so that most of the studios will pull out of the MMO field and we can return to what made them great to begin with.

     

    That will NEVER happen. The people that grew up with MMOs are now around 30 and more. I think they have other priorities then playing games. And those few that are left have no market value to be profitable for a company. The new generation doesnt play those old MMOs, hence we have those new flashy 2 weeks -trash can- MMOs.

  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    Bloodbourne & a redo of Dark Souls 2 on my PS4. Then I have The Witcher 3 to play on my PC. Putting all your eggs into MMOs is just dumb.




  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Originally posted by exile01
    Originally posted by Kefo
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko

    Afaik there are no western developers working on a new AAA MMO currently (that we know of), other than EQ:N. Development efforts seem to have shifted in the direction of various interpretations of MOBA's, which are easier to design and cheaper to build.

     

    Indie MMO projects are proliferating like weeds however, to fill this gap. Most of those offerings are not what I'd call AAA, and I suspect that the majority of them will most likely not meet with great success.

    I'd be quite happy with a MMO that doesn't meet with great success but instead is successful and has great gameplay and an awesome community.

    To be honest I am still waiting for the MMO bubble to explode so that most of the studios will pull out of the MMO field and we can return to what made them great to begin with.

     

    That will NEVER happen. The people that grew up with MMOs are now around 30 and more. I think they have other priorities then playing games. And those few that are left have no market value to be profitable for a company. The new generation doesnt play those old MMOs, hence we have those new flashy 2 weeks -trash can- MMOs.

    Hence why I am waiting for the MMO bubble to explode. There is a market for the 30+ crowd that grew up on the old MMO's. I don't expect WoW level numbers but something that makes the company a profit. If that profit can come from 50-100k players then who cares as long as it has the points I listed earlier

  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Kefo

     

    To be honest I am still waiting for the MMO bubble to explode so that most of the studios will pull out of the MMO field and we can return to what made them great to begin with.

     

    There is no returning ever - evolution of MMO genre only goes in one direction - forward and yes that *forward* will look very different from what many people would LIKE it to be.

    Indie studios are the best bet for those who want the return to old school genertion 1 MMORPGs (1998-2003) - because no major studios are working on anything like this anymore.

    Look at projects like Gorgon or Pantheon etc... 

    A new "Old school gen 1 MMORPG-like" game is never going to be made by another AAA studio period.

    I never said AAA studio :) Plus you can have a return to basics. Not saying 100% as that would just be an exact copy of whatever game with an updated graphics engine but it would be far better than most of the crap being made today.

  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Kefo

    Hence why I am waiting for the MMO bubble to explode. There is a market for the 30+ crowd that grew up on the old MMO's. I don't expect WoW level numbers but something that makes the company a profit. If that profit can come from 50-100k players then who cares as long as it has the points I listed earlier

    The bubble won't explode - as studios are working on MMOs for todays playerbase not playerbase from 1998-2003. 

    Look at the top 10 grossing MMOs in 2014 - MOBAs, shooters are dominating 

    Only indie MMOs are targetting 50-100k playebase - Pantheon, Camelot Unchained etc... say hi

    The bubble will go sooner or later. They will fall out of popularity and the big studios will turn their sights onto whatever is hot and can make them a easy buck with very little work involved. What's left will be indie devs and the studios that actually have passion.

    I wouldn't call a MOBA a MMO but that argument is a dead horse that has been beaten until it is a fine paste.

    I have been following Pantheon and its the game I really want to succeed. Camelot unchained has my interest piqued but I am still sitting on the fence about it. Few others out there that have me interested but currently in a wait and see what develops.

  • ThebeastttThebeasttt Member RarePosts: 1,130

    There's nothing decent coming anytime soon. Maybe Daybreak will fix the garbage that was EQN but I doubt it. Star Citizen might be decent but they will likely just milk their fans until it's some 2050 release. Black Desert is using ArcheAge labor points and the street fighter combat is a huge turnoff.

     

    Just switch to consoles mate, there's no reason to encourage MMO's continued trend of endless garbage. The best thing we MMO fans can do right now is vote with our wallets, it's the only thing these people listen to.

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Kefo
    Originally posted by exile01
    Originally posted by Kefo
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko

    Afaik there are no western developers working on a new AAA MMO currently (that we know of), other than EQ:N. Development efforts seem to have shifted in the direction of various interpretations of MOBA's, which are easier to design and cheaper to build.

     

    Indie MMO projects are proliferating like weeds however, to fill this gap. Most of those offerings are not what I'd call AAA, and I suspect that the majority of them will most likely not meet with great success.

    I'd be quite happy with a MMO that doesn't meet with great success but instead is successful and has great gameplay and an awesome community.

    To be honest I am still waiting for the MMO bubble to explode so that most of the studios will pull out of the MMO field and we can return to what made them great to begin with.

     

    That will NEVER happen. The people that grew up with MMOs are now around 30 and more. I think they have other priorities then playing games. And those few that are left have no market value to be profitable for a company. The new generation doesnt play those old MMOs, hence we have those new flashy 2 weeks -trash can- MMOs.

    Hence why I am waiting for the MMO bubble to explode. There is a market for the 30+ crowd that grew up on the old MMO's. I don't expect WoW level numbers but something that makes the company a profit. If that profit can come from 50-100k players then who cares as long as it has the points I listed earlier

    The bubble won't explode - as studios are working on MMOs for todays playerbase not playerbase from 1998-2003. 

    Look at the top 10 grossing MMOs in 2014 - MOBAs, shooters are dominating 

    Only indie MMOs are targetting 50-100k playebase - Pantheon, Camelot Unchained etc... say hi

    Yup, and that is very realistic for MMORPG's in my opinion. If a game is designed to be sustainable with a core population of 150-200K players, it will be a solid MMORPG. Before WoW happened, that range of player numbers was regarded as an undeniable success.

     

    Things started to go south when MMORPG developers tried to attract players from all the other genres of video gaming. Trying to make EQ "accessible" to someone who's grown up playing Super Mario is not going to end well for the EQ fans.

     

    There's a huge audience for MMO's (as opposed to classic MMORPG's), and in the last few years we've started seeing more  and more MMO's being made that are designed without the trappings of the classic MMORPG's. These games are designed to have true mass appeal and have only a passing resemblance to the MMORPG's of 10-15 years ago.

  • SulaaSulaa Member UncommonPosts: 1,329
    Originally posted by Kefo

    The bubble will go sooner or later. They will fall out of popularity and the big studios will turn their sights onto whatever is hot and can make them a easy buck with very little work involved. What's left will be indie devs

    That's already happened.

    Big game comapnies previously focusing on MMORPGs already went for non-MMO games such as MOBAs, online card games and other lobby games.

     

    Even Korean NCSoft is currently doing:

    1) MOBA

    2) Diablo clone with some MMO elements.

    3) Mecha Shooter still unrevealed whenever it will be an Lobby Shooter or Planetside 2-like MMOTPS/FPS game.

     

    Big game companies already abandoned AAA MMORPG genre.   Some projects started years ago are still going (Black Desert and Bless from Asia & maybe EQNext), but that's it.      Chinese companies may be doing something for their local market, but their productions even if they'll get localized will have even less success in NA&EU than Korean productions.

     

    +

    I personally have a feeling that indie small budget MMORPGs may have less success than people think.

    Truth is that most underserved in last 10-years MMORPG player groups want to have AAA MMORPG catered to THEIR expectations rather than small indie game doing so.

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    The next big thing is already out >>FFXI.More content than any game,no cash shops,updates that are outlined and delivered on time ,unlike other devs who keep everything a secret because they are incompetent.

    The only thing FFXI does not offer is a rampant pvp option ,but if all you want is the best challenging PVE game out there with ZERO hand holding,FFXI is it and probably will go down as the last true MMORPG with no cash shop and no hand holding and no linear questing.

    There is enough content in FFXI to last you 10+ years,if you choose to do it all and more keeps coming.You can play as the creatures if you want,solo if you want,group if you want,craft collect trinkets ,farm bosses for loot,it's all in there.They have even added like 5 different ways to make travel easier,much of that you have to earn it first but still it is there.

    Challenging fights in other games are ONLY in BOSS fights,not in FFXI,you can be challenged in many ways.There is actually TOO much content in FFXI ,a lot of it never gets played because players vee line to end game ,imo they are missing out on true gaming and just playing like another WOW .

    Choice is yours ,go play vee line questing or play a game with freedom.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • time007time007 Member UncommonPosts: 1,062
    Originally posted by Wizardry

    The next big thing is already out >>FFXI.More content than any game,no cash shops,updates that are outlined and delivered on time ,unlike other devs who keep everything a secret because they are incompetent.

    The only thing FFXI does not offer is a rampant pvp option ,but if all you want is the best challenging PVE game out there with ZERO hand holding,FFXI is it and probably will go down as the last true MMORPG with no cash shop and no hand holding and no linear questing.

    There is enough content in FFXI to last you 10+ years,if you choose to do it all and more keeps coming.You can play as the creatures if you want,solo if you want,group if you want,craft collect trinkets ,farm bosses for loot,it's all in there.They have even added like 5 different ways to make travel easier,much of that you have to earn it first but still it is there.

    Challenging fights in other games are ONLY in BOSS fights,not in FFXI,you can be challenged in many ways.There is actually TOO much content in FFXI ,a lot of it never gets played because players vee line to end game ,imo they are missing out on true gaming and just playing like another WOW .

    Choice is yours ,go play vee line questing or play a game with freedom.

    yeah I played ffxiv.  its a grinder for sure.  you grind tokens doing bosses and dungeons to get gear.  that being said, the game is fine.  it just didn't have any pvp/rvr.  I don't want to get into a long discussion about ffxiv a game where I have been there and done that for months.  its fine but I hit the gear cap then there was nothing left to do. came back months later and found out there was more gear that was better except the tokens were different names.  its a fine game, but just a been there done that feel. 

    I actually liked ESO until it became like a big circle jerk with zergs avoiding each other just to farm the "emperor" title.  getting emperor or scrolls were stupid easy, like 5 people on a dead server could do it.  on a packed server it was also easy, just like making a sandwich so the game lost all meaning in rvr.  in pve well, that game wasn't made for pve lets just leave it at that! 

    well anyways, was hoping something was coming out in the next 1-3 months that I hadn't heard of but I guess not.  Thanks for the big update everyone on EQN.  I will make sure to avoid it. 

    Out of boredom I will probably pick up the GW2 expansion, but again there is no release date for that, so ill put that way in the back of my mind.

    As for Korea working on a diablo 2 clone with mmo aspects? sounds good to me! whens it coming out? anything over 1-6 months and I won't waste time thinking about it!  I've been hearing about blade and soul for years and years and years!!! won't wait on a game again hehe.

    Don't get me started on Phantasy Star Online, wth release it in the u.s.  oh wait broke my rule about not thinking about games that have no planned release date in the u.s. 

    well if there is nothing in the near future (i.e. 1-3 months) then i'll see you guys in 6 months! heheh (I may come back just to check out the various hype trains rolling around)  its fun to watch hindenbergs like Tera & AOC nowadays!

    IMPORTANT:  Please keep all replies to my posts about GAMING.  Please no negative or backhanded comments directed at me personally.  If you are going to post a reply that includes how you feel about me, please don't bother replying & just ignore my post instead.  I'm on this forum to talk about GAMING.  Thank you.
  • FoomerangFoomerang Member UncommonPosts: 5,628

    Bunch of indie MMOs if they ever launch. Might be stuck in an infinite loop of beta phases and early access alphas.

  • ShadanwolfShadanwolf Member UncommonPosts: 2,392

    FOR ME

    the only posibilities for 2016

    Camelot Unchained

    and THE REPOPULATION

     

     

  • craftseekercraftseeker Member RarePosts: 1,740
    Originally posted by Shadanwolf

    FOR ME

    the only posibilities for 2016

    Camelot Unchained

    and THE REPOPULATION

    Not sure about 'The Repopulation' seems a bit flash in the pan to me.  'Camelot Unchained' however looks like it will make it to beta this year and release early next.

    Pity neither game appeals to me (PvP is not my thing) but I wish them well, I even spent money on the CU Kickstarter, even though I new I would never play it.

    But for us PvE types who also despise 'action combat' it is going to be another lean year.

  • TheStryderHDTheStryderHD Member UncommonPosts: 41

    Don't know for sure what the "next big thing" is for sure, but there's a lot of possibilities. Some of which could be"Camelot Unchained", "Everquest: Next", "Star Citizen", "Shards: Online", "Pathfinder: Online", "Skyforge", "Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen", "Warhammer 40K: EC" and of course there are more. Can't remember them all off hand at the moment, but those are definitely some of the possibilities.

  • time007time007 Member UncommonPosts: 1,062
    Originally posted by TheStryderHD

    Don't know for sure what the "next big thing" is for sure, but there's a lot of possibilities. Some of which could be"Camelot Unchained", "Everquest: Next", "Star Citizen", "Shards: Online", "Pathfinder: Online", "Skyforge", "Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen", "Warhammer 40K: EC" and of course there are more. Can't remember them all off hand at the moment, but those are definitely some of the possibilities.

    well sadly nothing this year I guess. 

    IMPORTANT:  Please keep all replies to my posts about GAMING.  Please no negative or backhanded comments directed at me personally.  If you are going to post a reply that includes how you feel about me, please don't bother replying & just ignore my post instead.  I'm on this forum to talk about GAMING.  Thank you.
Sign In or Register to comment.