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[Column] General: GDC 2015: Is VR the Future of Role-Playing Games?

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

At GDC this week, Valve rocked the gaming world with the unveiling of the virtual reality headset, the Vive. Not to be outdone, Sony revealed their updated Project Morpheus VR headset which leads the industry in hardware, but remains exclusive to PlayStation devices. With release dates of less than a year, virtual reality is coming, but will it succeed?

Read more of Christopher Coke's RPG Files: GDC 2015: Is VR the Future of Role-Playing Games?

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  • Shana77Shana77 Member UncommonPosts: 290

    As a roleplayer in MMORPG's I would love Virtual Reality to take hold. Simple things like spending the evening in an inn roleplaying with other RP'ers. Or organising an event in a beautiful lush virtual forest. 

    Of course the quality has to be very good and there has to be a solid game behind or people won't come, but I certainly hope this next step in immersion is succesful and I can see VR giving the MMO genre a drasticly needed second life. 

  • LheiahLheiah Member UncommonPosts: 190
    With the current design of these gadgets, now I can say thank you to the U.S. Navy for making me wear gas masks for hours on end. Maybe some future iteration I will buy, but definitely not the first or second round of this product. Anything stuck to your face sucks hind tit.
  • JJ82JJ82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,258

    No.

    I would not wear something like that for long periods of time. I literally LOL'd, hard, when reading MSFTs announcement of Holothingamajig...they actually believe that people are going to walk around their entire HOUSE all day long with it on to be able to interact with a gimmicky layout? Even if it wasn't gimmicky and you could control everything in your home why would ANYONE want to walk around with something on and make the motions with your hand when you can actually USE YOUR HAND to do it anyway and not have 5+ lbs on your head and a screen right in front of your eyes?

    For gaming, will be great for short periods and has other wonderful uses...but not long periods of time like would be needed for MMOs. Then there is the 1080p limitation at a time when 4k is becoming more important, cheaper and only a year or so from becoming standard.

    4k games over VR neck ache and eye strain any day.

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  • jmcdermottukjmcdermottuk Member RarePosts: 1,571
    For flight sims, racing games and FPS games I think VR is ideal. For MMO's not so much when you consider that practically every MMO that releases uses a 3rd person view. I like watching my avatar wade through the countryside leaving a trail of destruction behind. I know ESO fans all wanted a 1st person view in that but personally, I always play Skyrim in 3rd person, and I would have played other ES games that way if it had been an option.
  • FoomerangFoomerang Member UncommonPosts: 5,628

    Do you think it will inspire devs to make more interactive/immersive games? Or do you think it will be an excuse not to?

  • TekaelonTekaelon Member UncommonPosts: 604
    Not for any MMO as they are currently defined. However this technology could take tabletop game to new places.
  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977

    Nope.  It's purely a gimmick.  I can say with absolute certainty that I will NEVER use it.  I don't care if it teleports me into real space, hand feeds me caviar, and gives me a back rub... 

     

    But go ahead, bring a 100% VR game to the market and watch it crash and burn... it's what the public wants.

  • NitthNitth Member UncommonPosts: 3,904

    Nope.

    Does nothing for anything outside of 1st person perspective.

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  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,870
    As long as it doesn't degrade my eyesight any more than what is already happening with me staring at a computer screen 8+ hours a day, 24/7 then I'm all for it.

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  • RhimeRhime Member UncommonPosts: 302
    Originally posted by Lheiah
    With the current design of these gadgets, now I can say thank you to the U.S. Navy for making me wear gas masks for hours on end. Maybe some future iteration I will buy, but definitely not the first or second round of this product. Anything stuck to your face sucks hind tit.

     

    Not your whole face, but more like ski goggles, which isn't that bad...

  • RhimeRhime Member UncommonPosts: 302
    Originally posted by Pepeq

    Nope.  It's purely a gimmick.  I can say with absolute certainty that I will NEVER use it.  I don't care if it teleports me into real space, hand feeds me caviar, and gives me a back rub... 

     

    But go ahead, bring a 100% VR game to the market and watch it crash and burn... it's what the public wants.

     

    LOL..I bet your stock portfolio is impressive.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499

    This article is an obvious candidate for Betteridge's Law of Headlines:  any headline that ends with a question mark can be answered "no".

    Even if VR is the future, it's not going to be the near future.  Stereoscopic 3D is so much easier to do right with a prerecorded video than a game that has to figure out what is going on around you on the fly.  It's not going to catch on in games until after it's ubiquitous in movie theaters.

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  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685

    Virtual reality and roleplaying isn't confined to first-person view only.  3rd-person view is basically a spectator view, but people don't discount roleplaying entirely based on that camera view.

    There is major potential for RPG's with VR, whether it's singleplayer or multiplayer.  VR tech would need to vastly improve though, because framerates are very choppy when there is fast movement involved, and almost all RPG's and combat-based video games have fast movement and reactions.

  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member EpicPosts: 2,556

    Do you guys remember back in the 90's Nintendo came out with Nintendo 3D but they recalled it because it gave people seizures

    Hope these are 100% safe to use.

  • sketocafesketocafe Member UncommonPosts: 950
    Never in hell. What do they have to show people who aren't wearing the headset? Two little squares with the same image next to each other? How do you expect to sell people on that?
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916

    I assume everyone in this thread that is condemning the VR tech and gadgets as uncomfortable, dangerous and "a gimmick" have all worn one of these headsets for half an hour and tried to play some games that had elements suited to VR ?

     

    Or is it a case of "I don't have to actually try it, I just know it's bad" ?

     

    No, VR is not about to take over gaming. Relax, there will still be plenty of games made that don't require you to wear a VR headset. The way some people are reacting is almost like they are afraid of this "new tech"...

  • redcoreredcore Member UncommonPosts: 108

    i have nvidia stereo set at home and when i was playing wow years ago, wow looked GORGEOUS!!! not only wow, warhammer online too! so beautiful! none of you has ever used such a thing..none. you haters are just talking trash.

     

    put iton your head, set convergence, intraocular distance and then talk about it!..when i was flying in wow i could actually "feel" hundreds of meters of depth under me!

     

    cant wait for this thing!!! i buy it immediately once they release it!

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    Originally posted by Quizzical

    This article is an obvious candidate for Betteridge's Law of Headlines:  any headline that ends with a question mark can be answered "no".

    Even if VR is the future, it's not going to be the near future.  Stereoscopic 3D is so much easier to do right with a prerecorded video than a game that has to figure out what is going on around you on the fly.  It's not going to catch on in games until after it's ubiquitous in movie theaters.

     

    No ,no ,NO !

     

    The experience of using VR goggles is NOTHING like 3D movies or TV !

    VR is not "3D TV that you strap to your face" !

     

    When you're watching a 3D movie, your viewpoint is fixed. You are a passive consumer of what the movie director wants you to see. You have no control over the action or viewing angle whatsoever. If you turn your head away from the screen in any direction, you cannot see the movie any more.

     

    Say you're watching a 3D movie in a theatre. There's a view down a long corridor on the screen. In the movie theatre, if you turn your head around, you see the person sitting behind you. In a VR game where you're looking down a corridor, if you turn your head around, you see the corridor behind your character. You are IN the game world, not looking at it through a window. It changes the experience of playing a game in fundamental ways.

     

    3D TV and movies failed to set the world on fire. Aside from some cheap thrill tactics, stereoscopic vision in movies does not change the experience of watching very much. It adds "depth" to a scene, but it's still exactly the same scene. Your brain already does a very good job of making 2D movies seem quite realistic.

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    It might be good for certain types of games, i just know that for all the games i play it would be a hindrance rather than a benefit. image
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    I do think it might be time to add in 1st person view as an option for any game that supports VR.

    Yeah, I am not too found about 1st person view in MMOs either but I have the feeling that with VR it would be very different and worth adding.

    As for people worrying about drinking a cola or smoking while playing: there are plenty of blind people doing that every day. If they can so can we, you would get used to that in minutes.

  • imunrealimunreal Member UncommonPosts: 21
    Two games I would love with VR, mirrors edge and the new doom game.
  • TimesplitTimesplit Member UncommonPosts: 191

    I doubt you'll see any kind of demanding RPG's with VR, mainly because you need double the framerate for a proper VR experience. That is, unless something like G-Sync can help solve that problem, then maybe it'll be something.

     

    The problem with such a game is also that it has to be designed with it, so then it becomes an issue if games are lesser because of it.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko

    I assume everyone in this thread that is condemning the VR tech and gadgets as uncomfortable, dangerous and "a gimmick" have all worn one of these headsets for half an hour and tried to play some games that had elements suited to VR ?

     

    Or is it a case of "I don't have to actually try it, I just know it's bad" ?

     

    No, VR is not about to take over gaming. Relax, there will still be plenty of games made that don't require you to wear a VR headset. The way some people are reacting is almost like they are afraid of this "new tech"...

    Absolutely, there are so many things I know in life I won't like that I have never tried, such as base jumping (fear of heights) , sushi (all seafood is vile to me, raw does nothing to improve that viewpoint), Smart Cars (I am far too large), and Madden NFL, I hate sports games, and come to think of it, have no real interest in professional sports.

    Same thing here, I have always hated large, heavy headphones and headsets,I wear the lightest smallest ones possible and make sure I can still hear and interact with the real world around me. (Such as talking to my wife or watching TV)

    So yes, without even trying it, I am positive I won't be wearing VR headsets in their current incarnation, no matter how amazing the game is associated with it.

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  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 3,077

    I'm pretty sure all of these gadgets are lighter than 5 pounds.

    I am optimistic about virtual reality's current resurgence. At the very least, it will be a neat gaming peripheral. At most, I expect it could spark another revolution like affordable cell phones did around the turn of the millennium; there are so many applications for this outside gaming.

    Also, I tend to play games these days in 15-25 minute increments (including my MMO of choice).  I find them more enjoyable that way.  Very rarely will I have more than an hour to devote to gaming, and if I do, it's usually because I'm designing something.

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